NEW YORK | World Trade Center Memorial & Transit Hub - Page 112

Tall guy 31 · #**2221** Posted **May 30, 2012, 1:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by Noll

http://360.io/EP9XcJ

^^^ Do yourself a favor and check out this cool panorama of the hub.

rjb001 · #**2222** Posted **May 31, 2012, 3:40 AM**

This project is pretty much guaranteed to be completed without interruption, right? By interruption I mean putting the project on hold at some point for reasons similar to 2 & 3 WTC.

401PAS · #**2223** Posted **May 31, 2012, 12:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Noll

http://360.io/EP9XcJ

^^^ Do yourself a favor and check out this cool panorama of the hub.

That is FRIG'N AWESOME!!!!!!!

xnyr · #**2224** Posted **Jun 1, 2012, 9:29 PM**

Earthcam

It looks like they're pouring the Greenwich St. slab on some kind of mesh, because I can see the beams underneath. So,

Why not use solid decking?
How can this mesh support the wet concrete and workers without sagging?

Am I missing something here?

Tall guy 31 · #**2225** Posted **Jun 2, 2012, 2:58 AM**

Solid decking underneath it. Rebar on top of it.

EDIT****** Unless you're talking about the white sheets to the left of the newly poured concrete. Are you?? If so...that's covering up concrete poured the other day.

325ccr · #**2226** Posted **Jun 3, 2012, 3:32 PM**

Took these last night, these are Favco M1280D mast sections

Peterbilt hauling a M1280D mast by Vin Schiano, on Flickr

Favco M1280D mast by Vin Schiano, on Flickr

xnyr · #**2227** Posted **Jun 3, 2012, 5:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tall guy 31

Solid decking underneath it. Rebar on top of it.

EDIT****** Unless you're talking about the white sheets to the left of the newly poured concrete. Are you?? If so...that's covering up concrete poured the other day.

So, the decking is below the beams... That makes sense. I'm assuming the rebar is somehow embedded in the adjacent slab? I just don't get how the workers can walk on the rebar to smooth the concrete w/o bending the rebar between the beams. Do they walk on a temp plank?

Thnx

brenGT2 · #**2228** Posted **Jun 3, 2012, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by xnyr

So, the decking is below the beams... That makes sense. I'm assuming the rebar is somehow embedded in the adjacent slab? I just don't get how the workers can walk on the rebar to smooth the concrete w/o bending the rebar between the beams. Do they walk on a temp plank?

Thnx

I doubt that the workers are heavy enough to bend the rebar by walking on it. While it's basically impossible to tell from the picture, I would suspect that the gauge of rebar being used is relatively large and more than strong enough to withstand humans walking on it, as it has to be able to withstand car traffic once the concrete is poured.

Otie · #**2229** Posted **Jun 3, 2012, 10:45 PM**

New renders, notice the cheapier stone tile flooring replacing marble.

Credit: dbox via Reuters

Onn · #**2230** Posted **Jun 4, 2012, 1:37 AM**

White tiles are like the worst possible thing you can put on a floor. You know how easily they get dirty, not to mention looking cheap?

Otie · #**2231** Posted **Jun 4, 2012, 2:01 AM**

Agreed, marble flooring would have made the environment more attractive and magical.

Credit dbox

NYC GUY · #**2232** Posted **Jun 4, 2012, 3:01 AM**

They both look fine I guess.

Rizzo · #**2233** Posted **Jun 4, 2012, 4:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Onn

White tiles are like the worst possible thing you can put on a floor. You know how easily they get dirty, not to mention looking cheap?

Your kidding me, they aren't using natural stone or terrazzo? Tile will look dirty and never last. Happy grouting and cleaning!

Onn · #**2234** Posted **Jun 4, 2012, 6:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hayward

Your kidding me, they aren't using natural stone or terrazzo? Tile will look dirty and never last. Happy grouting and cleaning!

Don't forget the skid marks! They could have at least used black title.

For all the money that's being spent on this thing, they're sure not spending a lot of money on it. Features keep getting trashed like with everything else.

Chapelo · #**2235** Posted **Jun 4, 2012, 6:38 PM**

Ground Zero Museum Building Costs Soar

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The overall price tag for the National September 11 Memorial and Museum has hit $1.3 billion — and could run as high as $1.466 billion, sources close to the project warn.

That’s a dramatic increase over the $680 million that was estimated in 2006.

The cost to be absorbed by the foundation that is developing the museum is capped at $700 million, meaning the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the site, could be on the hook for much of the rest.

Included in the growing tab is up to $120 million on skylight designs, $17 million for features related to the museum’s “complex building geometry,” and $4 million for special tiles that have a terrazzo-style finish, a source said.

“At a certain point you need cost containment no matter how important the ultimate goal is,” the source argued.

While the memorial is complete, the museum is not expected to open this September as scheduled because work has nearly come to a halt as the foundation and Port Authority dispute $157 million in funding.

NOT INCLUDED IN THE PAPER VERSION:'
According to sources, the total project costs now break down as follows:
$457 million base total cost to complete and $139 million in change orders that bring the total construction costs to $596 million. There is another $164 million in memorial "soft costs" that bring the overall building costs to $760 million.

On top of that, there is a $150 million Port Authority infrastructure contribution and another $156 million that is subject to the dispute between the Port Authority and museum foundation. The PA also has another $100 million in soft costs that it is on the hook for.

The Port Authority also kicked in up to $200 million for a sky light to the trees in the northeast corner of the plaza, which was directed by New York City planning and up to $100 million that was for the accelerated construction of the roof to allow the 9-11 memorial to open in time for the 10th anniversary of the attacks last year.

All that would bring the costs to $1.466 billion.

A second source noted the growing costs and the debate over who has to pay how much doesn't even include how the museum's annual operating budget will be covered by the foundation moving forward.

"It's a separate, but related issue," the source said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dai...ing-costs-soar

WTCman7301 · #**2236** Posted **Jun 5, 2012, 12:01 AM**

I don't know this new floor gives the hub a bit of a warm feel compared to the other flooring. The other floor is more attractive but gives the hub a cold feel to the building. I would go with the new floor.

fimiak · #**2237** Posted **Jun 5, 2012, 2:37 PM**

Stone tile is still basically the best tile. Marble is indeed exceptional, but its not like they are settling for polished cement or something atrocious like that.

rjb001 · #**2238** Posted **Jun 5, 2012, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Otie

Will there be glass in between each "rib" of the structure that forms the occulus? I guess there would have to be to prevent precipitation from getting inside and people falling/jumping in.

upNaway · #**2239** Posted **Jun 5, 2012, 7:47 PM**

i must admit there are haulin ass with the transit hub

Otie · #**2240** Posted **Jun 5, 2012, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by rjb001

Will there be glass in between each "rib" of the structure that forms the occulus? I guess there would have to be to prevent precipitation from getting inside and people falling/jumping in.

Yes, glass will fill the space between ribs and will act like a protective shell for the entire hall against the environment outside, no need to let cold get in on winter or heat on summer. This glass is blast-proof.