NEW YORK | 15 Penn Plaza (Hotel Penn) | 1,050 FT / 315 M | 52 FLOORS

[Zerton]

Those balconies are way too narrow and shallow for trees that size. Developers want trees all up and down their towers but don't want to lose the square footage needed for them.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller

Moving the core from the side to the center is a big improvement. This still looks like a giant filing box for office workers. Hopefully further design tweaks can make this appear more elegant.

Its a very bulky building, which the skyline doesn’t really need more if. But I’ll take it over another 50 Hudson, which is a big monster.

Originally Posted by giantSwan

Why bother going through all the trouble of destroying hotel Penn for this. Only a 1000ft next to the best transport. Should be taller, better, more mixed use: residential, hotel, office, etc and make it much bigger

Height alone is not what makes a building more worthy over a demolished building. An extra 200 ft here doesn’t move the needle all that much.

[MAC123]

Someone please put a ban on foster for like 5 years in NYC. The only project they've designed I would consider good is 270 Park Ave, the rest is recycled trash.

[NYguy]

https://www.cityandstateny.com/opinion/2...fe-outside-entrance-penn-station/397597/

Opinion: A tiny plaza adds life outside the entrance to Penn Station
The centerpiece of a $65 million streetscape project proved to be a hit with New Yorkers before even opening.





By RALPH R. ORTEGA
JUNE 24, 2024

Vornado Realty Trust, the developer holding off building several tall buildings that would have helped fund the redevelopment of Penn Station, is now focusing on the streets around the transit hub. Vornado is unveiling the “centerpiece” of a $65 million project to make the streetscape around Penn “safer, greener, more accessible and more pedestrian-friendly,” according to a press release. What Vornado is referring to is Plaza33 outside the station’s East End Gateway on 33rd Street, most recognizable by its glass canopy leading into the Long Island Rail Road concourse.

The small promenade, developed in partnership with the New York City Department of Transportation, has trees, circular stone benches, folding chairs, tables and landscaping. Sedi Donka, a self-described Eastern European, Balkan and Gypsy band, was already performing at the plaza on June 21. Despite a heat wave, nearly every seat was filled. It appeared this little plaza had the potential to win over New Yorkers.

Vornado could potentially get a larger plaza on 32nd Street. We know the state plan is to make the streets around Penn Station more pedestrian oriented.

The potential 32nd Street plaza was shown in the renderings.











As compared to the state plan with a shared street approach...

[NYguy]

OLD VERSION

[Crawford]

Jesus, how many versions have we had already? It has to be double digits by now.

Just build it. I don't even care anymore about design or height. Just fill this hole in Midtown.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Jesus, how many versions have we had already? It has to be double digits by now.

Just build it. I don't even care anymore about design or height. Just fill this hole in Midtown.

It wouldn't surprise me if what gets built doesn't look like any of the recent renderings. A lot is going to depend on tenant signings. I think they're going with the smaller version in hopes of getting that started sooner.

[NYguy]

Foster didn't really do bad here. Vornado did a good job with the rehab of 1 and 2 Penn. Both are competitive with anything you'll see in the new towers. It's a strong first move in Vornado's quest to remake the area. 15 Penn will get done in one version or another.


https://www.youtube.com/live/O_TAsCAdtP4?si=XupYtawXF3rjw4UN

[Busy Bee]

Who the hell is John Summit and why are all those women dressed like that?

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Who the hell is John Summit and why are all those women dressed like that?

LOL. Apparently he's a dj.

https://youtu.be/cgxm1TRXbNE?si=DwWqrcaOleJCAquc

https://youtu.be/jM0FRhmNzeg?si=m8wvLZMoribbJSay

[NYguy]

JULY 10, 2024


New supertalls peeking over the 15 Penn site...

[NYguy]

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-...4?searchscope=image%2Cfilm&adppopup=true







This is a nice tower, but I do hope that if Vornado does move forward with the smaller tower, we at least get a redesign and more simplified building.


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[manchester united]

Are there news about the Hilton Corridor?

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by manchester united

are there news about the hilton corridor?

no.

[NYguy]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/q3-2024-vornado-realty-trust-091609860.html

Q3 2024 Vornado Realty Trust and Alexander's Inc Earnings Call


November 6, 2024

Steven Roth

Regarding our 350 Park Avenue site, arguably the very best site on Park Avenue. We are well along with the Norman Forster architectural firm and completing the design of 1.8 million square foot tower. And we will build with Citadel, who will be our major tenant and with Ken Griffin as our partner.

At PENN15, the former Hotel Penn site, at 33rd Street at 7th Avenue, directly across the PENN2 is now down to grade and ready for development. I believe this site in the heart of our Penn District and directly connected to best station. It's the single best site available in booming west side and Manhattan.

[NYguy]

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-...-and-news-photo/2153716517?adppopup=true

[ChiND]

Vornado needs to buy the entire west side of 7th between 33rd and 34th. That vile block is like Tartarus. It’s the neighborhood’s Achilles Heel.

[TKD]

Originally Posted by ChiND

Vornado needs to buy the entire west side of 7th between 33rd and 34th. That vile block is like Tartarus. It’s the neighborhood’s Achilles Heel.

They already own that... you've also not been recently because it's nothing like the metaphor jargon you're using for it.

[SamLYNY]

It's fine. Such hyperbole is an unfair description, IMO.

I don’t see the space next door to the new pizza place being empty for much longer. With the work already done and the continued work to come, I feel the whole area is on the rise. This block just reflects the area, with some sit-in dining and places to grab a quick bite by the station - along with the usual main avenue filler that comes with the territory.

Especially with the recent news of Apple moving in a couple blocks down.

[NYguy]

The best way I can describe to people the look of current plans for the building is an extended and taller 2 Penn Plaza. People seem to love what they've done with it (it's nice, I'm more impressed with what they've done with 1 Penn). That area between the two has become Times Square South in many ways. I think it's a good thing, and a sign of what's to come for the area.



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Meanwhile, some of the older buildings are retaining tenants as they see improvements to the area...


https://www.commercialcafe.com/blog/apple-expands-footprint-at-11-penn-plaza/

Apple Expands Footprint at 11 Penn Plaza


December 6, 2024

Apple has significantly expanded its presence at 11 Penn Plaza, a Midtown Manhattan office building owned by Vornado Realty Trust. The tech giant has secured an additional 61,000 square feet, bringing its total occupancy to 460,000 square feet.

Apple now occupies the fourth through 14th floors of the 1.15-million-square-foot tower located on Seventh Avenue between West 31st and West 32nd streets. Previously leased by Macy’s, the tech giant had this additional space incorporated into its existing lease at an asking rent of $85 per square foot.

The deal is unique in that it involved a direct lease agreement between Apple and Vornado, rather than a sublease from Macy’s. This allowed Apple to secure additional space and extend its lease term.

However, it’s worth noting that, despite the latest developments, Macy’s remains the building’s primary tenant and headquarters.

Apple initially sought to sublease 220,000 square feet from Macy’s at 11 Penn Plaza in 2020. The asking rent at that time was in the mid-$60s per square foot.

Before settling on 11 Penn Plaza, the company had considered leasing space in another one of Vornado’s properties, the Farley Building. However, Facebook ultimately secured the entire office space within that project.