NEW YORK | 15 Penn Plaza (Hotel Penn) | 1,034 FT / 315 M | 53 FLOORS

[Zerton]

Those balconies are way too narrow and shallow for trees that size. Developers want trees all up and down their towers but don't want to lose the square footage needed for them.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller

Moving the core from the side to the center is a big improvement. This still looks like a giant filing box for office workers. Hopefully further design tweaks can make this appear more elegant.

Its a very bulky building, which the skyline doesn’t really need more if. But I’ll take it over another 50 Hudson, which is a big monster.

Originally Posted by giantSwan

Why bother going through all the trouble of destroying hotel Penn for this. Only a 1000ft next to the best transport. Should be taller, better, more mixed use: residential, hotel, office, etc and make it much bigger

Height alone is not what makes a building more worthy over a demolished building. An extra 200 ft here doesn’t move the needle all that much.

[MAC123]

Someone please put a ban on foster for like 5 years in NYC. The only project they've designed I would consider good is 270 Park Ave, the rest is recycled trash.

[NYguy]

https://www.cityandstateny.com/opini...tation/397597/

Opinion: A tiny plaza adds life outside the entrance to Penn Station
The centerpiece of a $65 million streetscape project proved to be a hit with New Yorkers before even opening.





By RALPH R. ORTEGA
JUNE 24, 2024

Vornado Realty Trust, the developer holding off building several tall buildings that would have helped fund the redevelopment of Penn Station, is now focusing on the streets around the transit hub. Vornado is unveiling the “centerpiece” of a $65 million project to make the streetscape around Penn “safer, greener, more accessible and more pedestrian-friendly,” according to a press release. What Vornado is referring to is Plaza33 outside the station’s East End Gateway on 33rd Street, most recognizable by its glass canopy leading into the Long Island Rail Road concourse.

The small promenade, developed in partnership with the New York City Department of Transportation, has trees, circular stone benches, folding chairs, tables and landscaping. Sedi Donka, a self-described Eastern European, Balkan and Gypsy band, was already performing at the plaza on June 21. Despite a heat wave, nearly every seat was filled. It appeared this little plaza had the potential to win over New Yorkers.

Vornado could potentially get a larger plaza on 32nd Street. We know the state plan is to make the streets around Penn Station more pedestrian oriented.

The potential 32nd Street plaza was shown in the renderings.











As compared to the state plan with a shared street approach...

[NYguy]

OLD VERSION

[Crawford]

Jesus, how many versions have we had already? It has to be double digits by now.

Just build it. I don't even care anymore about design or height. Just fill this hole in Midtown.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Jesus, how many versions have we had already? It has to be double digits by now.

Just build it. I don't even care anymore about design or height. Just fill this hole in Midtown.

It wouldn't surprise me if what gets built doesn't look like any of the recent renderings. A lot is going to depend on tenant signings. I think they're going with the smaller version in hopes of getting that started sooner.