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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 4:57 PM
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Exactly what I think. so why is the media making it sound like this incident will hurt the new terminal
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 5:13 PM
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Here's a link to another article in the Sun: Half-sunk seaplane brings new wave of trouble for convention centre terminal

It appears that HA is taking the view that the location of the new dock exposes planes to greater wave action than the current temporary facility. Hopefully we'll know whether this is a real risk when the engineering study wraps up in 3 weeks.

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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 8:05 PM
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Seems like the media is wrong is misinformed again, the plane in that picture is not a Harbour Air plane.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 8:35 PM
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Seems like the media is wrong is misinformed again, the plane in that picture is not a Harbour Air plane.
http://www.harbour-air.com/news_deta...ry__nov_5_2011

Harbour Air's own press release says that it is, in fact, their plane.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 8:41 PM
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Seaplanes have always scared me lol I wonder how that happens, though? Is the bottom like a tire that can pop or be slashed~?
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 8:55 PM
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Strange as the plane is not painted in Habour Air/West Coast Air nor Baxter Air markings.
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2011, 9:49 PM
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in the CBC article it says it was a HA plane that "sunk" was decommissned they didn't say how long ago but didn't appear to be one that has been in service or ever will be in service again
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The pontoon that failed was the one away from the dock, not next to the dock, and had been repaired several times by HA themselves, most recently in the afternoon before the incident. The inquiry has access to 24/7 security camera footage showing exactly what happened to the plane. I think the terminal is going to come out of this looking good and HA is going to be cast in a questionable light.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2011, 12:28 AM
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The Club 16 in Coquitlam seems to do very well.
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The pontoon that failed was the one away from the dock, not next to the dock, and had been repaired several times by HA themselves, most recently in the afternoon before the incident. The inquiry has access to 24/7 security camera footage showing exactly what happened to the plane. I think the terminal is going to come out of this looking good and HA is going to be cast in a questionable light.
Perhaps they should rename themselves Harbour Err.
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Excerpt from today's Business In Vancouver illustrating the continued studies on the plane dock.

Coal Harbour dock drama drags on
Harbour Air and Vancouver Harbour Flight Centre proponents eagerly await results of provincial engineering study on port air terminal

By Joel McKay

A sunken plane and a controversial safety report are the latest
aspects of the ongoing battle over a $22 million Coal Harbour float plane terminal.
Last month, construction giant Ledcor Group published an alleged independent safety review of operations at the new Vancouver Harbour Flight Centre (VHFC).
The report, which relied on marine engineering firm the Glosten Associates and aviation expert Gord Stevens, determined that concerns about safety at the concrete dock were unfounded. The report’s findings were published 18 days after a Harbour Air plane partially sunk while moored at the east end of the dock.
Greg McDougall, CEO of the Harbour Air Group and chief opponent of the VHFC, said the November 5th incident was proof the dock is unsafe and improperly built.
Paul McElligott, president and COO of Ledcor Transportation and Resources, which has been trying to drum up tenants for the new dock, disagreed....

The report from aviation expert Stevens concludes that the dock’s length, width and height appeared “very conducive” to safety and general usability. Yet Ledcor’s so-called independent study had communication officials in the Ministry of Jobs in a tizzy last week....

Meantime, McDougall said a third study, also allegedly independent, is underway to determine why his plane sunk.
Although he and Ledcor acknowledged a leak in one of the plane’s floats likely caused the incident, they don’t agree on which float leaked.
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source: Business In Vancouver

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Pardon me if this article is placed in the wrong section. I thought it was timely since people are discussing the economic efficacy of the new Convention Centre that one of the largest ever conventions, Siggraph, is making a return in 2014 following the tremendously successful convention during Summer 2011.

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Glad to see the renovation work will be starting shortly for Cactus Club at Jack Poole Plaza after the site has been sitting idle for close to 2 years. The whole building has been fully enclosed by building scaffolding and plastic wrap.

On the other hand, it is really sad to see the new seaplane terminal so underutilized.

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2012, 11:33 PM
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where are we at with the SEAPLANCE TERMINAL dispute?
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2012, 11:41 PM
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Looks like the seaplane terminal dispute is still in a "sticky situation".
I wonder why COV didn't kick the seaplane office out from its current temporary location.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2012, 11:58 PM
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Seaplanes have always scared me lol I wonder how that happens, though? Is the bottom like a tire that can pop or be slashed~?

I used to fly Nanaimo-Sechelt periodically on a seaplane and it felt solid enough to me. Then again, there might be scenarios where the bottom bursts open in mid-flight, sucking people out, or else implodes on landing, forcing water in, with the inevitable drownings.....
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Looks like the seaplane terminal dispute is still in a "sticky situation".
I wonder why COV didn't kick the seaplane office out from its current temporary location.
and lose the taxes or whatever are getting now from them?

harbour air says if it can't stay there they will operate out of richmond near the airport, i am sure the other airlines would move elsewhere as well to avoid the convention centre
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2012, 8:48 AM
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and lose the taxes or whatever are getting now from them?

harbour air says if it can't stay there they will operate out of richmond near the airport, i am sure the other airlines would move elsewhere as well to avoid the convention centre
Good riddance I say. I'm getting tired of the noise, the fumes and the ugly shacks by the water.
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Good riddance I say. I'm getting tired of the noise, the fumes and the ugly shacks by the water.
Yeah, after all, they are in the way of a bike path!
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2012, 6:06 PM
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Coal Harbour already is dead and boring without the activity of the Seaplanes. Take that away and there's really nothing redeeming about that neighbourhood except its soulless beauty.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2012, 2:35 AM
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Coal Harbour already is dead and boring without the activity of the Seaplanes. Take that away and there's really nothing redeeming about that neighbourhood except its soulless beauty.
Seriously? An ugly couple of shacks, noise and jet fuel fumes adds soul to the the neighbourhood? Not really.
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