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Old Posted Nov 15, 2007, 7:04 PM
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Vesey Street doesn't even look like a street right now. Those office trailers are throwing off the beauty of 7 WTC!

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Hey Plinko nice pics. Not just of the pit or the new site but also of surrounding building and even some shots of the new GS building. Which by the way is getting pretty tall. Thanx
     
     
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does anyone know whats going on with the building that is covered in black netting between Deutsche bank building and 90 west street?
     
     
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does anyone know whats going on with the building that is covered in black netting between Deutsche bank building and 90 west street?


Are you talking about that short building? I never knew what that was for.
I once wondered that myself.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2007, 4:41 PM
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Real estate firm to rent space in WTC's Freedom Tower
by Ron Marsico
Thursday October 18, 2007, 3:55 PM
NEW YORK - The Port Authority awarded a prominent real-estate brokerage firm a three-year deal today to fill more than half of the planned Freedom Tower at Ground Zero.

Cushman & Wakefield Inc. will earn commissions between 5 percent and 2 percent over the life of each lease for commercial office tenants at the site's 1,776-foot signature structure, according to Michael Francois, the agency's real-estate director.

Government agencies already have committed to renting 1.1 million square-feet in the tower that will contain 2.6 million square-feet of office space overall. The Port Authority is seeking high-end corporate firms to fill the rest.

"I think financial services firms would be logical and also international firms,'' said Francois.

But agency officials say the space is open to other companies.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/10/real_estate_firm_to_rent_space.html
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Hey, that's GOOD NEWS!!

And some thought that the tower was going to sit there almost empty for a while.

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The Incredible Shrinking Freedom Tower

BY GRACE RAUH - Staff Reporter of the Sun
November 20, 2007
URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/66714

The symbolic centerpiece of the effort to rebuild ground zero, a 408-foot spire that brings the Freedom Tower to its projected height of 1,776 feet, could be jeopardized by a new technology emerging as an alternative to the broadcast antenna planned for the inside of the spire.

Some members of the Metropolitan Television Alliance, a collection of 11 broadcasters that has said it intends to use antennae installed on top of the Freedom Tower, have already been using multiple, low-power transmitters placed closer to street level, in lieu of a tall, single antenna. ION Media Networks, a member of the MTVA, is promoting the new technology and, earlier this month, the alliance began its own tests on a similar alternative system.

A long-term contract with the television alliance worth hundreds of millions of dollars would be a key financial component to the $3 billion Freedom Tower project. Sources close to the negotiations have said a contract with broadcasters would net about $10 million a year in annual rent and that an antenna would cost more than $20 million to build.

Following the destruction of the World Trade Center, the Empire State Building antenna became the primary antenna for the area's major television stations, and the Conde Nast building antenna, at 4 Times Square, became a favorite backup.

The broadcast antennae are now used to transmit to televisions in the area that use "rabbit ear" antennae rather than cable or satellite technology. The industry must switch to digital transmission of television signals by February 2009, as required by the Federal Communications Commission.

In 2003, the television alliance said it intended to use a broadcast antenna on top of the tower once it was built, but at that stage the tower was projected to be completed by 2009. Now, Port Authority officials insist that the tower will be ready by 2012, but there is a degree of uncertainty in the real estate community that the goal will be met.

In the interim, the MTVA has to find another solution, and earlier this month, it began tests on the new technology that could supplant the need for the Freedom Tower antenna.

The system, and the lack of a financial motivation to build the spire to 1,776 feet, could be another setback to the Freedom Tower, which has faced a torrent of criticism over security concerns, costs, planning, and design since its conception. The tower is relying on state and federal agencies to be its anchor tenants, raising concerns about the economic viability of the project.

The leasing agent for much of the building, Cushman & Wakefield, has referred to the Freedom Tower as 1 World Trade Center, in what may be interpreted as downplaying its symbolic importance.

Without the 408-foot broadcast antenna and spire, the Freedom Tower would be cut to 1,368 feet from its symbolic height in feet of 1776, the year America declared independence. It would still be the tallest building in New York City, but it would be the exact same height as Tower 1 before it was destroyed in 2001.

A developer who runs the Empire State Building and who is a critic of the Freedom Tower plans, Anthony Malkin, said if broadcasters aren't planning to use the antenna, it shouldn't be built.

"Common sense would say that it doesn't make a lot sense to build something for which the known user set is not prepared to make a commitment," Mr. Malkin said in an interview.

The Port Authority could decide to build the spire to its planned height for purely symbolic reasons, or it could find another marketable use for the spire.

The president of the Real Estate Board of New York, Steven Spinola, said, "I seriously doubt that there will not be a need for some kind of antenna on what is clearly a perfect spot to communicate from."

A spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the Freedom Tower, Steven Coleman, would not say whether the Freedom Tower's spire and antenna would be scrapped if the television stations decided they did not want to lease it.

"We are continuing to negotiate with the MTVA," Mr. Coleman wrote in an e-mail message, referring to the Metropolitan Television Alliance. He added that he would not speculate on the talks, which have been going on for more than a year.

A senior vice president at Richland Towers, which has tested the new technology with ION, David Denton said the new system "has the potential to become the primary source of broadcast operations in New York."

"This is no longer an unknown," he said. "We built it. We proved it."

The CEO of ION Media Networks, Brandon Burgess, was quoted by Broadcast Engineering magazine as saying that the Richland Towers network "provides signal quality at least equal to that of traditional digital broadcast towers at substantially lower investment and operating cost." Mr. Burgess could not be reached for comment yesterday.

A spokesman for the television alliance, Patrick Smith, said the organization is testing an alternative system to see if it can bridge the gap during the national switch to digital broadcasting.

"Members of the Metropolitan Television Alliance still plan to broadcast from the top of the Freedom Tower," he said.

Mr. Denton of Richland Towers said many television stations have expressed interest in the new broadcast system, which would operate with four transmitters, with one of them potentially situated on the top of the Bloomberg LP building at 731 Lexington Ave.

Mr. Denton said the new system would cost "exponentially less" than leasing space on the Freedom Tower, but he said he could not give specific figures. The new technology also has the potential to work better with mobile television broadcasting, which is considered the future of television, Mr. Denton said.
     
     
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Now, Port Authority officials insist that the tower will be ready by 2012, there is a degree of uncertainty in the real estate community that the goal will be met.

...the lack of a financial motivation to build the spire to 1,776 feet, could be another setback to the Freedom Tower, which has faced a torrent of criticism over security concerns, costs, planning, and design since its conception. The tower is relying on state and federal agencies to be its anchor tenants, raising concerns about the economic viability of the project.
The concerns of who? Other people in the "real estate community". Please, that's just the talk of the same developers who didn't want the Freedom Tower built in the first place. Notice how they go from "concerns" that the goal of completion might not be met, to concerns about the economic viability of it. They'll get over it.
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And last time I checked "state and federal agencies" were perfectly reasonable tenants for a building.....the tower isn't "relying" on them any more than other office buildings rely on their own tenants, regardless of what type of office they have. A lease is a lease, as far as the owners are concerned.
     
     
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I really doubt the spire would shrink just because of this "antenna" issue...the FT's height of 1,776ft (with a spire) has been almost fully constant during the design process. I believe the spire will go up to 1,776ft with or without an antenna inside.
     
     
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The concerns of who? Other people in the "real estate community". Please, that's just the talk of the same developers who didn't want the Freedom Tower built in the first place. Notice how they go from "concerns" that the goal of completion might not be met, to concerns about the economic viability of it. They'll get over it.


You're right!! It was clear from the very beginning that those sleezy developers had absolute zero tolerance against the tower even being built. Now, they're just trying to find something else about the tower to nit-pick at!

Yeah, just when we thought that everything was going smoothly with the tower, here comes more controversy, red tape and BS!! It never seems to end.

Not likely, but we all know Silverstein, and he's not the one to let small setbacks get in the way and rain on his parade.
     
     
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Let's get some better pics of those shiny new columns in here.
     
     
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And in any case, with some sort of spire (and the 1776 height) imprinted on our minds for son long, a spire-less building would look positively denuded.
     
     
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I highly doubt they'll remove the spire or reduce the height of it. If they take out the antenna then fine, but removing everything will look ridiculous.
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I highly doubt they'll remove the spire or reduce the height of it. If they take out the antenna then fine, but removing everything will look ridiculous.

If they wanted to raise the building itself to 1,776 ft, that would be just fine by me. In the end though, the broadcasters will stick with the spire.
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The Incredible Shrinking Freedom Tower

BY GRACE RAUH - Staff Reporter of the Sun
November 20, 2007

Without the 408-foot broadcast antenna and spire, the Freedom Tower would be cut to 1,368 feet from its symbolic height in feet of 1776, the year America declared independence. It would still be the tallest building in New York City, but it would be the exact same height as Tower 1 before it was destroyed in 2001.

A developer who runs the Empire State Building and who is a critic of the Freedom Tower plans, Anthony Malkin, said if broadcasters aren't planning to use the antenna, it shouldn't be built.
Pure bullcrap. First of all... height will ALWAYS be important to broadcasters, that seem to have utterly missed the supposed importance of this "new technology." (An odd thing, considering broadcasting is their profession) Second of all: NO ONE is talking about not building the spire, and THIRDLY: the spire would have been built even without the ability to use it as an antenna.

The bottom line is: it seems that this will be the tallest building in NYC for the foreseeable future.
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What's REALLY shrinking, by the way, is the significance of the entire project... the Westside development is leaving it in the dust. I'm not half as excited by the WTC anymore as I was even a year ago... which isn't to slight it, but to underscore the excitement of the entire NYC scene.
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Oh S**T! Here we go again! Just stop the bitching and build the damn tower to its designed height of 1776 feet...NOW!
     
     
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Construction hasn't been halted or anything lol. Somebody just wanted to make a catchy article that would grab reader's attention, without even thinking about how ridiculous the story actually is. The spire will not shrink, even if there's no antenna in it. The only way the spire will shrink is if the roof was raised higher...which won't be happening either.
     
     
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Thank you!

As I thought. some moronic individual out there more than likely had this bogus story circuted for cheap sensationalism!!
     
     
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