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View Poll Results: How many people will inhabit the Winnipeg CMA in 2026?
850,000-874,999 4 9.09%
875,000-889,000 9 20.45%
890,000-904,999 17 38.64%
905,000+ 14 31.82%
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2023, 5:37 PM
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I think Wolseley is similar to many higher income progressive old neighbourhoods in Canada. The professional class in Canada and Winnipeg is still pretty white. I don’t think people who live in Wolseley are more racist or discriminatory versus people who live in the burbs, in fact I would suspect that they’re likely more educated and progressive on those issues - at least from my experience. I think there are other barriers that are keeping different people out of the area. Wolseley is also expensive by Winnipeg standards - you’re looking at 300K to 600K for an old house there these days.

However, I totally agree that it is a little ironic that the most progressive or “woke” neighbourhoods in the city and Canada are becoming very white. That is kind of how it goes though. Educated high earners looking for old tasteful homes move into these types of neighbourhoods and the area becomes very white. Hopefully that changes as diverse graduating classes enter the professional class.

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I agree with Drew. It’s too bad that Wolseley has become very white, I think it is similar to many higher income progressive old neighbourhoods in Canada. The professional class in Canada and Winnipeg is still pretty white. I don’t think people who live in Wolseley are more racist or discriminatory versus people who live in the burbs, in fact I would suspect that they’re likely more educated and progressive on those issues - at least from my experience. I think there are other barriers that are keeping different people out of the area. Wolseley is also expensive by Winnipeg standards - you’re looking at 300K to 600K for an old house there these days.

However, I totally agree that it is a little ironic that the most progressive or “woke” neighbourhoods in the city and Canada are becoming very white. That is kind of how it goes though. Educated high earners looking for old tasteful homes move into these types of neighbourhoods and the area becomes very white. Hopefully that changes as diverse graduating classes enter the professional class.
Please elaborate on why being "White" is a negative thing...
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Despite all the talk about this city being such a racist place, personally I have not experienced too much racism here. A few incidents, no big deal. Winnipeg is one of the freindliest cities I have ever been to or lived in.

I do remember though when I first moved here, more than a few people bashing the transcona area. A few coworkers really made it sound like a bad place. They said it was also a racist place. I have been over there a few times but I don't know that area that well. I didn't really see anything wrong with the place, I don't live too far away from Transcona. My wife has a few friends over there.

I didn't grow up in Winnipeg so It has taken me sometime to learn the character and vibes of different areas. I'm still learning.
Every city has it's "Transcona."

In Calgary, it is called "Forest Lawn."
In Edmonton, it is called "Beverley."
In Lower Mainland BC, it is called "Abbotsford."
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I think Wolseley is similar to many higher income progressive old neighbourhoods in Canada. The professional class in Canada and Winnipeg is still pretty white. I don’t think people who live in Wolseley are more racist or discriminatory versus people who live in the burbs, in fact I would suspect that they’re likely more educated and progressive on those issues - at least from my experience. I think there are other barriers that are keeping different people out of the area. Wolseley is also expensive by Winnipeg standards - you’re looking at 300K to 600K for an old house there these days.
I think price is a major factor here. Wolseley probably has one of the steeper premiums for housing among older neighbourhoods in Winnipeg, excluding luxury market situations like North River Heights or Old Tuxedo. Someone who just arrived in Winnipeg in the last few years may not see the value in paying a significant markup on a Wolseley home vs. a similar one in a place with less cachet like, say, Scotia Heights.

If they're going to spend $700K, they'll likely spend it on a new home in a new suburb which makes sense in many ways... the reassurance of a new home under warranty, being close to immigrant communities with the things that brings (ethnic food stores, cultural institutions, etc.), not having to worry about inadvertently finding yourself in or near a dodgy neighbourhood (in the inner city, a lot can change over the span of a few blocks), etc.
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Please elaborate on why being "White" is a negative thing...
Yeah, no kidding. What's the implication that white is inherently negative?
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Please elaborate on why being "White" is a negative thing...
Yea I don’t see a problem. There are a lot of ethnicities here who have their dominant neighborhood anyway it’s not like we’re being excluded from theses area by any means.

If I want to visit Wolseley and grab a slice at Shorty’s no one’s going to bat an eye about it lol.
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Wolesley is a nice area. I wouldn't mind living there. It's in the perfect location IMO. The area north or portage between arlington and sherbrooke is cool too. Has a lot of potential.
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I work in health care and I find the racial profile of professionals to be quite diverse. Half of my days, I would be the only Caucasian during my shift. I work with 4 to 6 people per shift.
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From Stats Canada

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=1710013501

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July 1, 2022 CMA's (2021)


St. John's 219,119 (214,267)

Halifax 480,582 (459,869)

Moncton 171,608 (162,824)

Québec 848,776 (836,615)

Sherbrooke 231,055 (227,448)

Montréal 4,378,796 (4,340,642)

Ottawa 1,498,610 (1,474,077)

Kingston 180,070 (176,738)

Toronto 6,685,621 (6,547,381)

Hamilton 821,839 (811,396)

St. Catharines 450,501 (441,452)

Kitchener 622,497 (599,816)

Guelph 172,400 (169,363)

London 574,238 (557,394)

Windsor 359,672 (351,213)

Barrie 228,979 (221,954)

Winnipeg 871,778 (858,848)

Regina 268,804 (264,375)

Saskatoon 347,536 (339,870)

Lethbridge 133,064 (130,088)

Calgary 1,608,342 (1,558,588)

Edmonton 1,516,719 ( 1,480,159)

Kelowna 235,473 (229,003)

Abbotsford 208,961 (205,834)

Vancouver 2,842,730 (2,764,932)

Victoria 423,136 (413,859)
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Man. At one point the idea of Winnipeg with a million people seemed far fetched to me. The brief period when Winnipeg actually lost population over the span of a couple years doesn't feel like it was all that long ago. And now here we are... one million is starting to loom on the horizon.
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WPG reaching the 1 million mark will be a cool milestone to see.

I'm a bit surprised at how big Kitchener is though. I thought it was closer in size to what Windsor Ontario is.

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StatCan seems to have done significant revisions to 2021 estimates as well.

For example, last year StatCan estimated that City of Winnipeg's population in 2021 was 767,500 which represented a marginal decline of 354 people compared to 2020. Now in this data release, they've revised their 2021 estimate to be 772,935 which is substantially higher (relatively speaking), and doesn't show a population loss for the City.

Just an interesting tidbit.
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Exciting to see the city edging towards the 900,000-1,000,000 mark. Maybe it's just psychological, but I imagine its easier to attract "big city" amenities, businesses, services, etc. if you can tell prospective investors that we have a population of 1,000,000 people.
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The projection released this year by the City has the CMA passing a million as early as 2031. The city itself as early as 2038.

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/cao/pdfs/...imates2021.pdf
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The projection released this year by the City has the CMA passing a million as early as 2031. The city itself as early as 2038.

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/cao/pdfs/...imates2021.pdf
It would be amazing to see how quickly we could get there if government could find a way to stop the bleed to other provinces. We don't even have to experience a positive inter-provincial migration number. Just find a way to mitigate the 7,000 people that left last year from the city.
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I thought Niverville is now being included in the Winnipeg metro area, but when I clicked on the map link for Winnipeg on the Stats Can site I noticed it was just outside the boundaries.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/g1/datatomap/index.html?action=wf_identify&value={%27layers%27:[{%27values%27:[%272016S0503602%27],%27id%27:%27S0503%27}]}
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I thought Niverville is now being included in the Winnipeg metro area, but when I clicked on the map link for Winnipeg on the Stats Can site I noticed it was just outside the boundaries.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/g1/datatomap/index.html?action=wf_identify&value={%27layers%27:[{%27values%27:[%272016S0503602%27],%27id%27:%27S0503%27}]}
Niverville will get counted if you are using a data series that references the 2021 census boundaries, and it will get excluded if you use data series that reference 2016 boundaries.

Most data series will still refence 2016 boundaries. The only time I've seen Niverville included is in the actual 2021 census results.

It's confusing, but it takes time for boundary adjustments to make their way into the data, and what's worse is they screw up comparability to previous years, so that's why some data series use outdated boundaries.
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I thought Niverville is now being included in the Winnipeg metro area, but when I clicked on the map link for Winnipeg on the Stats Can site I noticed it was just outside the boundaries.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/g1/datatomap/index.html?action=wf_identify&value={%27layers%27:[{%27values%27:[%272016S0503602%27],%27id%27:%27S0503%27}]}
these numbers still use older 2016 boundaries

What surprises me is how Selkirk and communities west of the red river arent part of the CMA
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