HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Hamilton > Transportation & Infrastructure


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #201  
Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 3:53 PM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,660
MTO is moving quickly on the EA for the Highway 6 widening in Hamilton. PIC 2 will be on September 16:



Note the unfortunate, american spelling of "Center". Inconsistent within the document as well, with the title head at the top of the page adopting the Canadian spelling..
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #202  
Old Posted Sep 8, 2023, 4:37 AM
ScreamingViking's Avatar
ScreamingViking ScreamingViking is offline
Ham-burgher
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 6,636
Quote:
Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere View Post
Note the unfortunate, american spelling of "Center". Inconsistent within the document as well, with the title head at the top of the page adopting the Canadian spelling..
The spelling issue is a pet peeve of mine. With most things being done in Microsoft products, anything that deviates from American word spelling is flagged... I tend to add the Canadian/British versions of words to the dictionaries, but I'm a product of a time before spell-checking existed and you spelled a word the way you were taught.

This is great news though. And because the bridges over the road were built for a 4-lane divided highway the disruption should be minimal; an interchange at Book Rd. if planned (or improvement that sets alignments for a future IC) may involve some kind of diversion of 6 or Book depending on what final design is chosen; the connection to the airport itself as well, and Upper James.

Last edited by ScreamingViking; Sep 8, 2023 at 4:54 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #203  
Old Posted Sep 8, 2023, 11:41 AM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,660
The options presented at the first public meeting involved interchanges at Book Rd and at the Airport, as well as a reconfiguration of the Upper James intersection. When we see the materials next week for this meeting, they’ll be showing the preferred design for those interchanges.

I suspect it’ll be a standard parclo interchange at Book Rd and a trumpet interchange at the airport.

Construction here will be 2 new overpasses at both interchanges and grading of the second carriageway, which hasn’t happened yet. I’m guessing about $100 million worth of work, so not too expensive for what you are getting.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #204  
Old Posted Sep 14, 2023, 6:37 PM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,660
Preferred alignment for the Highway 6 widening here:

https://hwy6southwideninghamilton.ca..._Optimized.pdf

No real surprises here - parclo at Book Rd, trumpet at the Airport, and retains the intersection with Upper James more or less as it already is.

Only thing that really surprises me is increasing the radius of the 6W - 403N ramp. Figured that they would just have kept it as it's a pretty marginal improvement over the existing condition for its cost.

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #205  
Old Posted Sep 14, 2023, 9:04 PM
ScreamingViking's Avatar
ScreamingViking ScreamingViking is offline
Ham-burgher
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 6,636
Good!

Now hopefully any greenbelch development doesn't result in future noise complaints that curb overnight airport operations... because people won't realize they're moving to a new house near an airport!!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #206  
Old Posted Sep 19, 2023, 5:15 PM
NortheastWind NortheastWind is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 621
It looks like the house on Book Rd, just west of the highway will be expropriated for the on-ramp. It should have been done in the '80's when they built the runway.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #207  
Old Posted Sep 19, 2023, 11:20 PM
ScreamingViking's Avatar
ScreamingViking ScreamingViking is offline
Ham-burgher
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 6,636
Quote:
Originally Posted by NortheastWind View Post
It looks like the house on Book Rd, just west of the highway will be expropriated for the on-ramp. It should have been done in the '80's when they built the runway.
This one:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zBebV7qm3NkzXFdX6
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #208  
Old Posted Sep 25, 2023, 2:39 PM
SFUVancouver's Avatar
SFUVancouver SFUVancouver is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 6,390
I'm a bit late to this, but I happened to take Barton East and found that the section between Parkdale Ave and Woodward Ave (previously the worst of worst for road damage) is being completely rebuilt. Not just patched or resurfaced, but full excavation and rebuilding from the roadbed up.
__________________
VANCOUVER | Beautiful, Multicultural | Canada's Pacific Metropolis
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #209  
Old Posted Sep 25, 2023, 2:42 PM
Dengler Avenue's Avatar
Dengler Avenue Dengler Avenue is offline
Road Engineer Wannabe
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Côté Ouest de la Rivière des Outaouais
Posts: 8,236
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFUVancouver View Post
I'm a bit late to this, but I happened to take Barton East and found that the section between Parkdale Ave and Woodward Ave (previously the worst of worst for road damage) is being completely rebuilt. Not just patched or resurfaced, but full excavation and rebuilding from the roadbed up.
Woah, what’s brought you to Ontario?
__________________
My Proposal of TCH Twinning in Northern Ontario
Disclaimer: Most of it is pure pie in the sky, so there's no need to be up in the arm about it.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #210  
Old Posted Sep 25, 2023, 3:48 PM
SFUVancouver's Avatar
SFUVancouver SFUVancouver is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 6,390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue View Post
Woah, what’s brought you to Ontario?
Ah, I moved to Hamilton a few years ago. My username dates back a long way and I'm barreling towards being a 20-year SSP veteran.
__________________
VANCOUVER | Beautiful, Multicultural | Canada's Pacific Metropolis
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #211  
Old Posted Sep 27, 2023, 3:28 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere View Post
Preferred alignment for the Highway 6 widening here:

https://hwy6southwideninghamilton.ca..._Optimized.pdf

No real surprises here - parclo at Book Rd, trumpet at the Airport, and retains the intersection with Upper James more or less as it already is.

Only thing that really surprises me is increasing the radius of the 6W - 403N ramp. Figured that they would just have kept it as it's a pretty marginal improvement over the existing condition for its cost.


Highway 6 South widening through Greenbelt sparks environmental questions

https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilto...1d290fcf5.html
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #212  
Old Posted Sep 27, 2023, 5:22 PM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,660
Pretty typical straight NIMBYism on those concerns I would say. The Greenbelt has always permitted infrastructure through it - the Liberals built the 407 East through the greenbelt a few years ago. Greenbelt legislation was never meant to freeze the lands or preserve it as parkland - it's still privately owned, agricultural land for the most part, the intent was always to prevent urbanization of the lands, and that's it.

The EA was done in the past, the existing highway was always intended to be widened, just get on with it. Part of building infrastructure is that you have impacts. Doesn't mean the infrastructure isn't needed.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #213  
Old Posted Sep 27, 2023, 8:15 PM
NortheastWind NortheastWind is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 621
Quote:
Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere View Post
Pretty typical straight NIMBYism on those concerns I would say. The Greenbelt has always permitted infrastructure through it - the Liberals built the 407 East through the greenbelt a few years ago. Greenbelt legislation was never meant to freeze the lands or preserve it as parkland - it's still privately owned, agricultural land for the most part, the intent was always to prevent urbanization of the lands, and that's it.

The EA was done in the past, the existing highway was always intended to be widened, just get on with it. Part of building infrastructure is that you have impacts. Doesn't mean the infrastructure isn't needed.
Some of the comments in the article make good sense. Build culverts and overpasses for wildlife to pass. Connected green areas are important. It will be a benefit to the animals, drivers and the airport. For the airport, as development occurs around the airport and animal habitat disappears, mammals like deer will start harbouring on airside, becoming a hazard to aircraft.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #214  
Old Posted Sep 29, 2023, 2:00 PM
SFUVancouver's Avatar
SFUVancouver SFUVancouver is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 6,390
A concrete truck apparently right-hooked a cyclist at York Boulevard and James Street North and killed him. Sad situation and definitely underscores the need for safer bicycle infrastructure like the protected cycle tracks on Cannon St., right-on-red bans downtown, and expansion of phased traffic signals to give pedestrian and cyclists a head start before green-lighting traffic (including left and right turns).

Quote:
Cyclist killed after being struck by driver operating cement truck, police say
Police say this is the city’s 11th fatality of the year and the first involving a cyclist


CBC News · Posted: Sep 29, 2023 9:06 AM EDT | Last Updated: 31 minutes ago

After a collision downtown late Thursday afternoon with a cement truck, police say, a cyclist was killed.

Police say a male cyclist was heading east on York Boulevard approaching James Street North at about 4 p.m. when he was struck by a driver operating a cement truck turning right onto James.

Police say the cyclist died at the scene and the driver "is co-operating with investigators."

The intersection was closed for several hours for the investigation.

Police say the cyclist had no identification on him and Investigators are working with the coroner's office to identify him.

David Shellnutt, managing partner of The Biking Lawyer LLP, lawyers for injured cyclists, said the cyclist "was travelling on York St, which has a painted bike lane only. Perhaps with safe secure infrastructure and/or a protected intersection this collision could have been avoided."

Shellnutt said "Paint is no substitute for concrete barriers and bollards. We encourage Hamilton City Council to continue with robust traffic calming and safe infrastructure plans."

Police are asking anyone in the area to share any information that might assist with the investigation. You can contact the Collision Reconstruction Unit at 905-546-4753 or Reconunit@hamiltonpolice.ca.

Police say this is the city's 11th fatality of the year and the first involving a cyclist.
Source

It also seems fairly likely, based on the cyclist having no ID on them and the incident's proximity to the shelter on York Blvd, that the cyclist was part of a vulnerable population associated with that facility. Not trying to victim blame here (quite the opposite). Rather, in places like this, where it is known that there is a high concentration of a sometimes-erratic vulnerable population, the need for safer (and more forgiving) pedestrian and cycling infrastructure is heightened and would benefit everyone.

In Vancouver's perennially troubled downtown eastside, the maximum road speed for several blocks has been permanently reduced to the school zone speed of 30 kph because the population there is so erratic and frequently walks out into traffic. The lower vehicle speeds simply increases the survivability of the inevitable collisions. It's not a solution, per se, but rather a pragmatic harm reduction response.

With all that said, there's basically no worse scenario for a cyclist (or pedestrian) than a right-turning concrete truck running a person over. Speed is irrelevant when so much mass is involved. I also think the benefits of back-up cameras have been so apparent that right-turn blind spot cameras should become mandatory for heavy vehicles operating in a city.

Anyway, a sad situation all around.
__________________
VANCOUVER | Beautiful, Multicultural | Canada's Pacific Metropolis

Last edited by SFUVancouver; Oct 3, 2023 at 3:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #215  
Old Posted Sep 29, 2023, 2:06 PM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,660
I strongly doubt speed was involved here as the truck was turning right and trucks that size have to be moving very slowly to do that. I would be surprised if the truck was doing more than 10km/h.

More than likely the truck simply didn't see the cyclist and the cyclist got caught underneath the wheels.

Which friggen sucks, but I'm not sure if road design, speed limits, or a lack of concrete curbs had much to do with it.

As a cyclist - I keep a solid 10 foot distance from trucks like that at all times for a reason. The risk is just too high, even with a well designed street, a good drive behind the truck, and slow travel speeds.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #216  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2023, 1:54 PM
atnor atnor is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 396
Kroestch grandstanding on Twitter. Fatal collisions are always investigated by staff and the police investigate all reported collisions.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #217  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2023, 3:07 PM
TheRitsman TheRitsman is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 3,028
Quote:
Originally Posted by atnor View Post
Kroestch grandstanding on Twitter. Fatal collisions are always investigated by staff and the police investigate all reported collisions.
The request is specifically to bring reports to Council which allows them to act on it and the public to delegate. Previously the report would be provided privately.
__________________
Hamilton Downtown. Huge tabletop skyline fan. Typically viewing the city from the street, not a helicopter. Cycling, transit and active transportation advocate 🚲🚍🚋

Follow me on Twitter: https://x.com/ham_bicycleguy?t=T_fx3...SIZNGfD4A&s=09
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #218  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2023, 11:35 PM
atnor atnor is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 396
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRitsman View Post
The request is specifically to bring reports to Council which allows them to act on it and the public to delegate. Previously the report would be provided privately.
And that’s how it should be, we have subject matter specialists for a reason. Councillors don’t need to make a show about including the public as they are already included. This will complicate matters for staff and politicize engineering.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #219  
Old Posted Oct 18, 2023, 2:54 PM
ccheck7 ccheck7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 34
Rymal Road EA

Didn't see this posted anywhere:
https://live-city-of-hamilton.panthe...design-set.pdf

The City held a second PIC in September for the Rymal Road EA, which includes widening to 5 lanes (4+centre turn), a MUP on the north side, and slip lanes at the intersection with Upper James.

I'm happy to see a MUP, the only other east-west corridor on the Mountain is Stonechurch. The MUP seems poorly thought out though at the intersections, and the introduction of slip lanes at Upper James is quite disappointing given the new developments anticipated for that intersection. Seems to go against the City's Vision Zero and Complete Streets guidance.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #220  
Old Posted Oct 18, 2023, 4:22 PM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,660
Agreed on slip lanes - a right turn lane is all that's needed at most.

Interesting to see queue jump lanes proposed for Upper James though. That will be helpful for A-Line service.

Interestingly, they don't seem to be proposing even right turn lanes at any other intersection along Rymal. Right turn lanes are actually great for transit as it lets buses skip queues at lights to access stops, and generally Hamilton uses them quite sparingly. They make huge differences in traffic flow, particularly on roads with frequent transit service.

Looking at it, there should probably be a right turn lane at Upper Wentworth going westbound on Rymal at a minimum, if not at Upper Ottawa or Upper Gage as well.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Hamilton > Transportation & Infrastructure
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 6:11 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.