JERSEY CITY | Projects and Construction thread

[Crawford]

They need a second PATH station near Journal Square, just to the west. I hear this is something planned for the near-future.

Also, PATH will need to be all 10-car trains, and need to run at absolute shortest intervals possible.

Even with all these improvements, a second PATH line will probably be needed, one day. I don't see how one east-west line will work decades into the future.

[C.]

Info on the new towers planned behind Lowes Theater will be presented to the planning board at City Hall tomorrow. Anyone want to check them out and report back?

Hoping for another 60 story tower!

[citybooster]

I didn't expect things so soon for preliminary approval of the Planning Board for the Loew's towers...hmmmmm CIA hinting that the 42 story larger tower could actually morph to at least 50 stories? intriguing and I love it... wish I could go to the meeting but will look forward to returning from work tomorrow night to hear the details. The big thing though that was just brought up and t is ESSENTIAL... with all this development the PATH has to be significantly upgraded and soon in terms of greater capacity and frequency. Doesn't mean overnight but after they do the work with the 33rd Street trains into Manhattan being eliminated on weekends for the rest of the year, concentration on upgrading capacity and frequency must be emphasized. That area is going to be amazing in five years or so...ten years it should be thriving and a major destination spot. But the transit system has to keep up with the transformation of the area.

[urbanlife]

Originally Posted by Crawford

They need a second PATH station near Journal Square, just to the west. I hear this is something planned for the near-future.

Also, PATH will need to be all 10-car trains, and need to run at absolute shortest intervals possible.

Even with all these improvements, a second PATH line will probably be needed, one day. I don't see how one east-west line will work decades into the future.

After living out there for a couple years, I always felt like there should be a PATH line running up and down the Hudson/Bergen counties rather than the light rail they currently have servicing the area. Having Journal Square be the hub for new lines throughout the Jersey side would be a smart idea. Also, I would love to see PATH become the MTA for the Jersey side when it comes to subway lines....but then again, I am probably thinking a bit lofty here.

[citybooster]

I'm thrilled about the Loew's tower approval and hope we can find out about the height and other details soon. I'm a bit disappointed they attached conditions to the approval of 25 Columbus but am not yet worried about too much of a dampening effect on height.... at 50 stories or so and around 600 ft with sizable plaza and the 35,000 square foot school it will be very visible and I think maybe the affordable component or public amenities were pat of the concern. Hopefully it will be much sooner than the end of the year for things to clarify on this one but I'm expecting it will retain its dynamic, soaring presence in the skyline that was originally hoped for.

Disappointed about them moving consideration of the 20 story tower at 2973 Kennedy Boulevard until next week's planning board meeting but hopeful about it as well. It isn't only about all the high rises... a mid rise balance for is an important consideration too in the future of redevelopment for the area as you attest, CIA.

Loved the link and renderings... really shows how in only a short time Journal Square will be transformed and vital. Wondering other than the Loew's tower(the only tower not shown in that rendering) is there room for a couple of more highrises in that ring right around the heart of the Square? Counting the HAP building on Summit Avenue as well(which as mentioned will be put off for a few years) there are now 8 towers of potentially at last 42 stories and around 500 ft that are currently acknowledged as planned or actually under construction(so far only the 54 story, 563 ft. shortest of the three Journal Squared" towers actually realized). Excited though that it does appear very possible that the floor numbers, density and heights of the two other Journal Squared towers may be increased with the positive buzz on the One Journal Square project and good sales for the built out tower.

Exciting times for sure in Jersey City!

[C.]

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ic_school.html

No details yet except that it includes a new public school, a public plaza, and up to 750 units, 37 of which would be affordable.

We're looking at another ~50 story tower. Sweet!

The 500ft List

99 Hudson - 899ft - 79 stories - under construction
One Journal Square II - 892ft - 79 stories - approved
30 Journal Square - 799ft - 72 stories - approved
Goldman Sachs Tower - 781ft - 42 stories - built
Journal Squared II - 742ft - 70 stories - approved
URL Harborside I - 713ft - 69 stories - topped out
URL Harborside II - 713ft - 69 stories - approved
URL Harborside III - 713ft - 69 stories - approved
One Journal Square I - 700ft - 56 stories - approved
Journal Squared III - 635ft - 60 stories - approved
San Remo - 610ft? - 61 stories - proposed
Journal Squared I - 562ft - 54 stories - topped out
Merrill Lynch Building - 548ft - 42 stories - built
65 Bay Street (Trump II) - 535ft - 50 stories - topped out
Trump Plaza I - 532ft - 55 stories - built
Newport Tower - 521ft - 37 stories - built
33 Park I - 510ft - 44 stories - under construction
33 Park II - 510ft - 44 stories - approved
Behind Lowes Theater - ??? - ~50 stories - proposed
25 Columbus - ???ft - ~50 stories - proposed
70 Columbus - 500ft - 50 stories - topped out
90 Columbus - 500ft - 50 stories - under construction
The Monaco I - 500ft - 50 stories - built
The Monaco II - 500ft - 50 stories - built
70 Greene - 500ft - 50 stories - built
77 Greene - 500ft - 50 stories - built

New additions this month are in red.

[citybooster]

They could only get 37 units designated as affordable? Usually they try for 20% and I would want to hold them on this. I'd ideally go a little higher but understand the returns have to justify the investment, but 37 would only be 5% of up to 750 units and that's kind of insulting. Nonetheless more school space that will be essential for our growing population and a sizable public plaza and very substantial 750 units possibly(I'm gathering all in one tower only) will make this another blockbuster on the skyline at likely 50 + plus stories.. I'm greatly anticipating hearing a lot more about 25 Columbus in the new future.

So what about the Loew's tower... anything heard at the meeting or will it be presented at another meeting?

[C.]

I wasn't able to attend the meeting, but I'm guessing we'll hear something in the media in the next couple of days.

The volume and magnitude of developments in the pipeline is truly incredible. Well over 10,000 units are currently under construction, and ample supply is ready to break ground. The new residences going up in Journal Square can be a 20 minute commute to the World Trade Center door-to-door. If marketed right, the units under construction should be snapped up very quick.

More developers should come to ultra pro-development Jersey City and get in on the action. What are you waiting for, developers!? I would not be surprised to see a 100 story proposal next year. Goldman Sachs is still sitting on their development sites, especially 55 Hudson. Hopefully we hear more concrete news about their plans soon.

[C.]

Here is an interesting link:

https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/marke...al-square/5944

“It’s a transit hub that’s attracting developers for its easier land costs, and lower construction costs,” explained Ken Pasternack, chairman of KABR Group, which is co-developing both One and 30 Journal Square with Kushner Companies. (The two towers will bring around 4,000 new units to the area, he said.) Pasternack thinks that by 2020, the neighborhood will be reinvented with new residential, retail and office space, all thanks to demand from priced-out New Yorkers looking for cheaper rent. “Rents for a new-development high rise will be $40 a square foot here, as opposed to $100 in Manhattan,” he said. “We’re betting tens of millions of dollars that in the next 10 years, the neighborhood will be a brand on par with Brooklyn.”

[colemonkee]

So which one of the three Journal Square towers pictured above is completed? Is it the 2nd tallest or 3rd tallest in that trio?

[C.]

The shortest one at 54 floors. To come is the 60 and 70 floor buildings. I would also not be surprised to see a bump in height for the later two of the first one leases out quickly and is a resounding success.

The plan for the Lowes Theater towers by Hartz Mountain was approved last night. The 25 Columbus site was also approved but with conditions. I don't know what those conditions are, but I would not be surprised if it was to limit the height, unfourtanetly. We should get the details before the end of this year.

I'm also disappointed that the 20 floor building planned for JFK Blvd was defered to the next meeting. Hopefully it will be approved then as its a very important site that will set the standard for redevelopment of the area.

[colemonkee]

Originally Posted by CIA

The shortest one at 54 floors. To come is the 60 and 70 floor buildings. I would also not be surprised to see a bump in height for the later two of the first one leases out quickly and is a resounding success.

[chris08876]

^^^^

Which is great news because as you come out of the Holland Tunnel and into JC, it's in direct sight in the distance. Literally straight in front, and it looks really dominating. Joining the skylinet; phase 1 + 2 and One Journal Square (Tower 1 and 2). That too is another development. Also remember that Urban Ready living is a 3 tower development. JC definitely has the trio effect going. Along with a slew of other projects.

[C.]

Another small but important one planned for Journal Sq.



6-story with 54 units planned for Perrine Avenue. I like the density, and it appears they already have zoning authority, but the design is very poor. This is one of the very rare times I side with the neighbors with hopes we get a better planned building for the site.

[C.]

The List

One Journal Square II - 942ft - 79+ stories - site work
99 Hudson - 899ft - 79 stories - under construction
30 Journal Square - 799ft - 72 stories - approved
Goldman Sachs Tower - 781ft - 42 stories - built
Journal Squared II - 742ft - 70 stories - approved
One Journal Square I - 730ft - 56 stories - site work
URL Harborside I - 713ft - 69 stories - topped out
URL Harborside II - 713ft - 69 stories - approved
URL Harborside III - 713ft - 69 stories - approved
San Remo - ??? - 61 stories - proposed
Journal Squared III - 635ft - 60 stories - approved
Journal Squared I - 562ft - 54 stories - topped out
Merrill Lynch Building - 548ft - 42 stories - built
65 Bay Street (Trump II) - 535ft - 50 stories - topped out
Trump Plaza I - 532ft - 55 stories - built
Newport Tower - 521ft - 37 stories - built
33 Park I - 510ft - 44 stories - under construction
33 Park II - 510ft - 44 stories - approved
25 Columbus - ???ft - 52 stories - proposed
101 Newkirk - ???ft - 50 stories - proposed
Arts District Tower I - ???ft - ~50 stories - proposed
Arts District Tower II - ???ft - ~50 stories - proposed
70 Columbus - 500ft - 50 stories - topped out
90 Columbus - 500ft - 50 stories - under construction
The Monaco I - 500ft - 50 stories - built
The Monaco II - 500ft - 50 stories - built
70 Greene - 500ft - 50 stories - built
77 Greene - 500ft - 50 stories - built

[citybooster]

And though nothing has crystallized yet, I'd include as potentials for significant towers the lots of 55 and 50 Hudson owned by Goldman Sachs(55 Hudson was mentioned earlier in the year by Mayor Fulop himself as in the planning stages) as well as the significant lot across from Trump Plaza(Evertrust owned) as well as the yet undeveloped 111 First across from 110 First(The One) which had long been promoted as the centerpiece of development in that area. Certain when they finish Liberty Harbor North we'll get a couple of big ones(they were allowed to go up to 55 stories a few years back, revised significantly upwards from previous limits of 32 or so)... and don't forget Mack Cali has confirmed its intent to build Harborside IV, which from plans on the architect's site looks somewhere over 600 ft, possibly around 700. I'm sure a few more surprises will pop up downtown/waterfront and Journal Square area.... overall by 2030, possibly even 2025 we should have at least 6-8 additional at 500 ft or larger. For a mid size city pushing 300,000 people, maybe 350,000 in the coming decade we'll probably have the best skyline of any non metropolitan city... hopefully with that we step up the game architecturally and have some really iconic buildings designed.

[C.]

I'm thrilled about the Loew's tower approval and hope we can find out about the height and other details soon.

With an 892 feet tower basically across the street, hopefully it will be a very tall one!

I'm a bit disappointed they attached conditions to the approval of 25 Columbus but am not yet worried about too much of a dampening effect on height.... at 50 stories or so and around 600 ft with sizable plaza and the 35,000 square foot school it will be very visible and I think maybe the affordable component or public amenities were pat of the concern. Hopefully it will be much sooner than the end of the year for things to clarify on this one but I'm expecting it will retain its dynamic, soaring presence in the skyline that was originally hoped for.

The good news I learned recently is that the tower was approved for 750 units. Even if a misguided height restriction was placed, we'll get a bulky tower, but we'll still get the 750 units, which at the end of the day is the more important issue, IMO.

Disappointed about them moving consideration of the 20 story tower at 2973 Kennedy Boulevard until next week's planning board meeting but hopeful about it as well. It isn't only about all the high rises... a mid rise balance for is an important consideration too in the future of redevelopment for the area as you attest, CIA.

Let's have an army of YIMBYs at the next planning board meeting. Let's speak up in support so we can see more midrise developments in and around Journal Square. We can have an awesome happy hour afterwards if we are victorious. Who is with me?

Loved the link and renderings... really shows how in only a short time Journal Square will be transformed and vital. Wondering other than the Loew's tower(the only tower not shown in that rendering) is there room for a couple of more highrises in that ring right around the heart of the Square? Counting the HAP building on Summit Avenue as well(which as mentioned will be put off for a few years) there are now 8 towers of potentially at last 42 stories and around 500 ft that are currently acknowledged as planned or actually under construction(so far only the 54 story, 563 ft. shortest of the three Journal Squared" towers actually realized). Excited though that it does appear very possible that the floor numbers, density and heights of the two other Journal Squared towers may be increased with the positive buzz on the One Journal Square project and good sales for the built out tower.

I wish this version of the HAP building wasn't being considered.



Imagine that at 100 storeys! hahaha!

As for other sites to be developed. There's still Kennedy Fried Chicken (KFC) on the southeast corner of the square.



LOL

Exciting times for sure in Jersey City!

Cheers!

[Crawford]

Yeah, I bet the Kennedy Chicken site eventually gets developed, and I could see that huge Jehovah's Witness complex eventually getting sold/redeveloped.

That site is massive and could probably accommodate an enormous tower.

[PeterQM]

The Top Developments Transforming New Jersey's Journal Square
September 20, 2016
https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/marke...al-square/5944

The migration of the New York development rush over to Jersey City was no surprise. Located along the waterfront, Jersey City boasts impressive views of the skyline and easy access into Manhattan from the PATH train. But as new development arrived at a rapid pace, it has resulted in rising prices and a lack of developable land. That’s caused developers to look inland in search of other Jersey City neighborhoods ripe for new development. Journal Square, the area surrounding the Journal Square PATH station, has clearly emerged as the new frontier. That’s in no small part to the Jersey City Planning Board, which in 2010 approved Journal Square 2060, a plan mapping out the redevelopment of the area for the next 50 years.

More info and images in the post here.

[C.]

Just realized that the model has 500 Summit building is on the wrong side of the street. There is currently a four story federal building planned for that site. Hopefully they realize the value of the land and sell it or build something more substantial than four storys!!