New York Supertalls

[Hudson11]

Few updates for the list here.
according to :
http://archrecord.construction.com/n...eak-Ground.asp

1. The Equinox Mixed Use Hudson Yards Tower will be 950 ft (one less supertall )
2. The Residential Culture Tower will be 825 ft.

According to CTBUH http://skyscrapercenter.com/new-york...-avenue/14787/

3. 425 Park is 855 ft.

[Eidolon]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

1. The Equinox Mixed Use Hudson Yards Tower will be 950 ft (one less supertall )

I wouldn't call it yet, seeing as the 1337ft north tower was called a 1300ft building in that article. It is plausible that they just called it a 950ft building when it really is something like 988ft for example.

**EDIT**
34th and 8th supertall (the site is bigger so I'm guessing anything built here will be taller than the other one)
W34th and 7th near supertall

Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

For those who are not from NY, in addition to 15 Penn, Vornado plans two other very tall towers for the MSG site. One will be over 300m.

Moynihan Station air rights up for grabs
August 19, 2010 12:00PM

Moynihan Station: The state and the city have re-entered negotiations with Vornado Realty Trust and the Related Companies over the sale of 1 million square feet of air rights for the new Moynihan Station, according to Tim Gilchrist, the new president of the Moynihan Station Development Corp. The developers entered into an agreement with the state in 2006 to develop the Farley Post Office into a new train station and to use the air rights to build an adjacent mixed-use development topped by a 67-story tower, Crain's reported. But the plan, which included $110 million from the sale of the air rights, was never approved by the Public Authorities Control Board. Instead, the recession forced the state to split the development into two phases. Eventually, federal stimulus funding provided the final $83 million needed to build the $267 million first phase. The initial construction contracts were approved Monday, and now attention is turning to funding the $1 billion second phase.The Farley building -- which occupies the square block between 31st and 33rd streets and Eighth and Ninth avenues -- comes with 2.5 million square feet of transferable air rights. Related and Vornado have dibs on the first 1 million square feet, but the remaining 1.5 million are up for grabs. The agreement that gives Related and Vornado exclusive development rights expires in 2012. [Crain's]

One will rise on the southwest corner of 7th and W34th where the Footaction and Torneau stores are located.




The other will rise where this one-story Duane Reade is located, which is on the southeast corner of 34th and 8th.

[hunser]

Originally Posted by Eidolon

I wouldn't call it yet, seeing as the 1337ft north tower was called a 1300ft building in that article. It is plausible that they just called it a 950ft building when it really is something like 988ft for example.

**EDIT**
34th and 8th supertall (the site is bigger so I'm guessing anything built here will be taller than the other one)
W34th and 7th near supertall

Yeah, those height figures for the HY Project change constantly. Looking at the Equinox Tower rendering one can see the building has some sort of crown, so it's possible they got the wrong number.

Updated the rest.

[Eidolon]

360 10th avenue has been revived and it's probably somewhere between 700 and 800 feet tall.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=202568

Here's what was previously proposed.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=131931

[hunser]

Christmas coming early to New York... according to this DOB filing, the Nordstrom tower at 225 West 57th Street will have an occupied height of 1550 feet, meaning that with a crown and / or spire this one could break the 1600ft / 500m mark!

Just found this...

Building Height (ft.): 1,550
Building Stories: 88
Dwelling Units: 233

So only 88 floors!? Crazy.

EDIT: Iirc the Nordstrom store should take about 250,000 sf to 300,000 sf. This could explain the low floor count.

[Eidolon]

Here's my updated construction status and timeline list, all heights posted discount any spires, but crowns and roof heights are counted.

Key:
■ : No work has been done on this building at the time of this post
■ : Site prep, no matter how minimal, has been done at the time of this post
■ : Construction is on hold
■ : The building is under construction
■ : The building has been completed

Grand Central Tower ~600M (Site Prep by 2017)
225 W57th ~500M (Completed by 2018)
432 Park -426M (Completed by 2016)
One World Trade Center -417M (Completed 2013)
Two World Trade Center -411M (Completed by 2020)
Hudson Yards North Office Tower -407M (Completed by 2017)
Empire State Building -381M (Completed 1931)
15 Penn -371M (Site Prep by 2017)
One Manhattan West -371M (Completed by 2020)
Three World Trade Center -327M (Completed by 2018)
Girasole -323M (Completed by 2020) (Possibly +400M)
Tower Verre -320M (Completed by 2017)
One57 -306M (Completed 2013)
34th and 10th Street +304M (Site Prep by 2020)
One Hudson Yards +304M (Completed by 2020)
Hudson Yards Mixed-used Tower +304M (U/C by 2020)
237 Park +304M (Site Prep by 2020)

[hunser]

^ Nice. Now we need the Girasole to join the 1300ft+ club!

1,000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction (steel topped out)
2. Nordstrom Tower, 1550ft+ (472,4m+), Site Preparation (likely to exceed 1600ft)
3. 432 Park Avenue, 1398ft (426,1m), Under Construction (height not final; probably 1420ft (432m))
4. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
5. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1337ft (407,5m), Approved
6. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire]
7. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
8. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
9. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed
10. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction
11. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire]
12. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved (likely to exceed 1400ft)
13. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved
14. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
15. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
16. One57, 1005ft (306,3m), Topped Out
17. One Hudson Yards, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Site Preparation
18. Sherwood Tower (34th & 10th), 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
19. 34th & 8th, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
20. 138 East 50th Sreet, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
21. Grand Central Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed (likely to exceed 1700ft)



900 footers:

1. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Topped Out
2. American International Building, 952ft (290,2m), Completed
3. Equinox Tower, 950ft+ (290m+), Approved (likely to exceed 1000ft)
4. Bloomberg Tower, 941ft (286,6m), Completed [when counting the spire]
5. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed
6. Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved
7. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (282,6m), Completed
8. Citigroup Center, 915ft (278,9m), Completed
9. 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold, work to resume soon)
10. 80 South Street, 902ft (275m), Proposed

Full list see previous page & first page for renderings.

[hunser]

A new club... 400m+:

1,300 footers:


1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction (steel topped out)

2. Grand Central Tower, 1700ft+ (518m+), Proposed (likely to exceed 2000ft)

3. 225 West 57th Street, 1550ft (472m), Site Preparation (likely to exceed 1600ft)

4. Empire State Building, 1454ft (443,2m), Completed

5. 432 Park Avenue, 1398ft (426,1m), Under Construction (height not final; probably 1420ft (432m))

6. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)

7. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1337ft (407,5m), Approved

8. The Girasole, 1313ft+ (400m+), Approved (likely to exceed 1400ft)

Exciting times!

[photoLith]

What in the world is that Nordstrom Tower? And 225 west 57 isnt 1550', I thought that one was around 1350-1400?

[hunser]

Originally Posted by photoLith

What in the world is that Nordstrom Tower? And 225 west 57 isnt 1550', I thought that one was around 1350-1400?

The Nordstrom Tower is 225 W 57th St. And yes, the new height is 1,550', it's major news since yesterday.
Take a look here: NEW YORK | 225 W 57th St (Nordstrom tower) | 1,550 FT | 88 FLOORS .

[NYC4Life]

Originally Posted by hunser

A new club... 400m+:

1,300 footers:


1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction (steel topped out)

2. Grand Central Tower, 1700ft+ (518m+), Proposed (likely to exceed 2000ft)

3. 225 West 57th Street, 1550ft (472m), Site Preparation (likely to exceed 1600ft)

4. Empire State Building, 1454ft (443,2m), Completed

5. 432 Park Avenue, 1398ft (426,1m), Under Construction (height not final; probably 1420ft (432m))

6. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)

7. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1337ft (407,5m), Approved

8. The Girasole, 1313ft+ (400m+), Approved (likely to exceed 1400ft)

Exciting times!

Amazing to see the once tallest building in NYC, the Empire State Building will likely be dropped to fourth tallest in a decade or so. A 2,000 footer is now realistically on the horizon.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by hunser

Christmas coming early to New York... according to this DOB filing, the Nordstrom tower at 225 West 57th Street will have an occupied height of 1550 feet, meaning that with a crown and / or spire this one could break the 1600ft / 500m mark!

If the top floor is 1550 feet there is no way that it will not break the 1600 mark, it could easily break the 1700 mark at that point.

[Fardeb]

The news about 225 West 57th could be a game changer if everything works out. No messing around with an antenna or spires or anything like that, just boom 1,550(likely 1600+ in the end).

Anyone planning on topping that will have to go big, even looking at it from a world scale. The way the people were talking about the Grand Central Tower you know they mean business about making an impact. There are still some good locations for people looking to go big in the greater Hudson Yards area too. It now actually wouldn't shock me if we saw one or two realistic proposals up in the 1800-2000 foot range.

[TowerVerre:)]

Lets hope so! But if you look at the cancelled buildings you can see that not everything what is proposed will be build .

[hunser]

Originally Posted by TowerVerre:)

Lets hope so! But if you look at the cancelled buildings you can see that not everything what is proposed will be build .

Don't worry, 225 W 57th St will be built. It doesn't need any approval because it's "as of right". Same goes with supertalls as One57 or 432 PA. That's why those towers shoot up so damn fast.

[TowerVerre:)]

yes i know but Tower Verre, Grand Central Tower and the Girasole. Grand Central tower for example is planned to be finished in 2020 and if they don t find financing for Tower Verre before the next financial crisis ? But lets hope that they all will be built =)

[Eidolon]

Originally Posted by NYguy

http://observer.com/2012/12/demoliti...-street-tower/

Demolition Begins on 1780 Broadway, Final Piece of Barnett’s 1,550-Foot 57th Street Tower





By Matt Chaban
Dec 3, 2012









Inside the old, trashed Morton Williams (Matt Chaban)

225 W57th will probably start excavation early next year and will be U/C by March or April 2013 at this rate.

[hunser]

^ Pretty amazing. The New York residential market is unstoppable.

[Eidolon]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000

Here it is! From the rough sketches it definitely looks good. Very BofA-ish. Be more of a fan if the crown isn't open and a different material than the tower I think.

REIT unveils, names its massive new Midtown tower
December 03, 2012 04:00PM



"The city’s largest office landlord, SL Green Realty, released sketches today for its planned office tower, to be known as 1 Vanderbilt.

The company hired architectural firm Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates to design the 1.55-million-square-foot building, which would be located on Midtown’s East Side in an area where the city is considering a zoning change to allow for taller and bulkier structures.

Isaac Zion, company co-chief investment officer, said the building as designed will not be financially feasible without the full 30 floor area ratio, which could be achieved only through the rezoning. The project is planned for a small block located jest east of Grand Central Terminal, bounded by 42nd and 43rd streets and Vanderbilt and Madison avenues, where SL Green now controls all the properties.

The designs were released at SL Green’s annual investor conference."

More great news!

[hunser]

http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/