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Old Posted Sep 24, 2011, 7:57 PM
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In other non news, Concerto is now known as Apex. Still no word on when it'll actually open.
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In other non news, Concerto is now known as Apex. Still no word on when it'll actually open.
Any news if they are going to finish the construction of the building? Not the second tower, but the smaller retail spaces in the corners of the building.
     
     
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Whats with the fixation with out-of-towners? It's almost like you care more about what LA can be for tourists than its own residents. It's like you guys have your egos so intertwined with city promotion that approval of LA is approval of yourselves. You guys have a weird obsession with what tourists think. It's a fixation I've noticed on the board and it really comes off very dependent.
Hey, last I checked, tourists pay in American dollars..........and that's what help keeps small businesses and restaurants afloat. LA is fortunate that it gets so many tourists. I wouldn't kick a gift horse in the mouth. Just sayin'.
     
     
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I'm white, an Angeleno, and ride the Red Line from time to time. Local white people are by no means the majority on the Red Line, but I have and do see them pretty regularly.
Good to hear. If I were in LA, I would ride the red line.......and the blue, the green and the gold.........and I am white too.
     
     
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no its not true. the diversity on the trains is a great sight. I usually ride the red, purple and gold lines about 10 times a month and there are all kinds of people on the trains.
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yeah, but white "choice" riders (i.e, people who use mass transit out of convenience, and not necessity) are still a small minority. this is especially true when transit ridership demographics in other cities is looked out. something like 2/3rds of metro's ridership comprises of people without driver's licenses. i will say that you are starting to see more and more professionals (of any color, but primarily white) ride the metro, especially around rush hour
This study agrees with your observations:


Study: More Downtowners With More Jobs Riding More Transit

Tuesday, August 23, 2011, by James Brasuell

Urban revivalists rejoiced earlier this year when the US Census delivered news that Downtown Los Angeles had made the comeback of the decade. The Downtown Center Business Improvement District (DCBID) today piled on more evidence that someone has done something right in Downtown (hint: it probably wasn't the extra Walgreens), releasing the Downtown Los Angeles Demographic Study 2011. The study is the only report that compiles data focused specifically on the Downtown market: "where we are in terms of employment, education and income," and, perhaps most importantly, "how we spend our time and our money."

The report, which was written by Horizon Consumer Services and expands on a 2008 study, echoes some of the findings of the Census. According to the report: "A total of 28,861 residential units are located in Downtown LA, up 11.0% from 2008 (4th quarter)" and "A total of 45,518 persons are residing in Downtown, a strong 15.1% rise from 2008 (4th quarter)." The report also claims that Downtown residents in 2011 have higher employment rates, more education, and increased use of public transit than they did in 2008. But they also have experienced declines in home ownership and income--effects, according to the report, of the recession.

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I'm sure when the Expo Line finishes you'll be seeing a lot more white people. Same with the Purple, and whatever line ends up hitting West Hollywood. The question is, though, why does it matter? L.A. is great for being such a diverse city. If anything, the dearth of white people just show how diverse our city is.
It matters only because LA is one of the more segregated cities in the country. Studies have shown the more people are exposed to diversity the more comfortable they become with it.

Secondly, you want people of all colors to get into the habit of taking mass transit at least when they go downtown.........esp. if you want to reduce the parking requirements for downtown projects.
     
     
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Are there still plans for a pink line in west hollywood?? i go there all the time when i visit la.. would be nice if i got a hotel there and was able to ride the line to transfer to red line so i could go to hollywood and downtown
     
     
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Are there still plans for a pink line in west hollywood?? i go there all the time when i visit la.. would be nice if i got a hotel there and was able to ride the line to transfer to red line so i could go to hollywood and downtown
They are planning to extend the Crenshaw Line up to West Hollywood, and have made non-official mentions of a subway under Santa Monica Blvd.
     
     
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Are there still plans for a pink line in west hollywood?? i go there all the time when i visit la.. would be nice if i got a hotel there and was able to ride the line to transfer to red line so i could go to hollywood and downtown
In short, yes. A line through WeHo is still in the works. But there has been some changes to the plan over the last couple years:

The short Heavy Rail subway proposal that would've linked up with the Purple Line Westside Extension has been all but cancelled.

Instead, the Light Rail proposal that would serve as the northern section of the Crenshaw Corridor has been planned to replace it, running northwest on San Vincente, east on Santa Monica Blvd, and north on Highland Ave to meet at a transfer station with the Red Line at Hollywood Blvd (and possibly even further up Highland to the Hollywood Bowl).

While the Crenshaw Corridor has no official color designation, it's very likely that, at least on maps, it will be labeled as the Pink Line.

Note: This is why the Purple Line La Cienaga station was moved further east, and it's also why a connection junction structure was eliminated last year in the studies.
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This may have been answered before, but i dont feel like going through the thread to find out.

Can Quimby funds be used to redo Pershing Square? I really feel as though Pershing square is a drag on the area. An improved Pershing square can really accelerate the improvement of the immediate area and can further tie the several adjacent districts together.
     
     
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This may have been answered before, but i dont feel like going through the thread to find out.

Can Quimby funds be used to redo Pershing Square? I really feel as though Pershing square is a drag on the area. An improved Pershing square can really accelerate the improvement of the immediate area and can further tie the several adjacent districts together.
They can, and at one point they were. When Park 5th was still a reality, part of that project included re-doing Pershing Square. Alas, that won't happen anymore.
     
     
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that was with existing quimby funds or with the developers funds? or was it the quimby funds from the potential development?
     
     
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that was with existing quimby funds or with the developers funds? or was it the quimby funds from the potential development?
I've heard it was via Quimby funds, but also that it was from the developers pocket. Like much of Park Fifth, the process of the proposed renovation of Pershing Square was never really made clear.
     
     
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I forgot to mention in one of my post's yesterday that I finally got caught up reading B. Yen's blog. And let me just say........Brigham, you have a great eye for urban detail. For me, its those details that make an area 'citified'; not skyscrapers..........not that I don't get turned on by a good skyscraper.....I do. When I left LA, it was a downtown looking for a city; for people to fill it up. Now that scenario is happening.....its an incredibly awesome time to be living in DTLA. And I believe its those details that Brigham likes to point out that will make DTLA a place where people want to live and play.

The thing I wanted to mention was a comment Brigham made in his blog. He was talking about retail development in DTLA. He pointed out a photo of Macy's/NY, hoping that such an urban dept store will locate in downtown........clearly, the current Macy's in DTLA doesn't count.

First, its pathetic that DTLA lost both Robinson-May and Bullocks. Its too bad that DTLA was allowed to deteriorate to that degree. However, what's good is that the bldgs housing those two stores still exist and could be the catalyst for bringing in another dept store. The old Bullocks especially lends itself to all kinds of creative redevelopment.

The reason I am pointing this out is that Curbed Seattle recently posted that the rumor re. JC Penney's plan for a new store in DT Seattle is true. Now before you get all pissy about a JC Penney......remember you want DTLA to be a true neigborhood that caters to all kinds of people; not just one that services the needs of Nordstrom and Barney residents. I hope.

What's cool about the JC Penney store is that the original store left DT Seattle 30 years ago. No one ever expected it to come back........and yet it has. Why is that happening now? JC Penney thinks DT Seattle now has a big enough demographic of residents and workers to make their new store work. And Target agrees with them.....their new store opens next year.

I believe this is the beginning of a trend that other DTs are starting to experience. Its only a matter of time before LA gets on the wagon. The small retail stores opening up on 7th and on Spring and on Broadway eventually will pave the way to a new dept store for DTLA. And yes, I understand you would much prefer to get a Bloomies than a JC Penney. No worries...its LA, not Seattle.
     
     
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One Path to Better Jobs: More Density in Cities

Ryan Avent is an economics correspondent for The Economist and author of the Kindle Single “The Gated City,” from which this essay is adapted.

“HELL is other people,” wrote Jean-Paul Sartre. He nonetheless spent much of his life in Paris, the better to interact with other French intellectuals. Cities have long been incubators and transmitters of ideas, and, correspondingly, engines of economic growth.

That has never made the crowds less annoying. Maybe that’s why people try to tame the city by chaining it down and limiting who can build what where along its quieter streets. We lobby leaders to fight development, aiming to protect old buildings and precious views, limit crime and traffic, and maintain high-quality schools. But what makes a city a city and a not-city a not-city is the fact that a city is dense and a not-city isn’t. The idea of it may chill a homeowner’s heart, but the wealth supported by urban density is what gives urban homes their great value in the first place.

And when it comes to economic growth and the creation of jobs, the denser the city the better.

How great are the benefits of density? Economists studying cities routinely find that after controlling for other variables, workers in denser places earn higher wages and are more productive. Some studies suggest that doubling density raises productivity by around 6 percent while others peg the impact at up to 28 percent. Some economists have concluded that more than half the variation in output per worker across the United States can be explained by density alone; density explains more of the productivity gap across states than education levels or industry concentrations or tax policies.

Put two workers with similar skill levels in cities of different densities and the one in the denser place will be more productive, according to two decades’ worth of research from economists. The resistance to greater density slows job creation in productive places. Take, for instance, the San Francisco Bay Area, a beautiful place, blessed with outstanding climate, scenery and culture. It’s also an economic juggernaut, hub of the country’s tech industry and home to some of America’s highest wages. In 2009, the average Silicon Valley household earned about $85,000. Despite this, over 500,000 residents of the Bay Area moved elsewhere in the 2000s. Many of them left for places like Phoenix, which attracted over 500,000 residents from other American cities, despite wages 40 percent below Silicon Valley levels.

Factors like taste and taxes account for some of the migration, but the biggest reason for the shift is housing costs. The average Phoenix home is worth about 30 percent of the price of a house in San Jose. The difference in prices is mostly due to differences in building. In every year from 1992 to 2009, Phoenix granted permits for two to three times as many new homes as did the San Francisco and San Jose metropolitan areas combined. Around the San Francisco Bay, neighborhoods dead set against change successfully squeezed the housing supply, just as OPEC limits the supply of oil when it wishes to raise its price.

The “Not in My Backyard” philosophy sometimes, though by no means always, supports a high quality of life. Yet the effect is to raise housing costs and make rich cities more exclusive. Real trouble occurs when the idea-generators in cities with that NIMBY approach become so protective of their pleasant streets that they turn away other idea-generators, undermining the city’s economic role. And that is happening. Entrepreneurship rates in Silicon Valley were below the national average during the tech boom because firms couldn’t attract enough skilled workers.

Productivity and wages are rising in these growing Sunbelt cities, but not as fast as in the denser cities that workers are leaving. The average wage per job in Phoenix rose $10,700 from 2000 to 2009, while in San Francisco the increase was $14,500. But, while wages are growing in San Francisco, they would be growing faster if the city allowed the construction of more housing. More workers would be able to take advantage of the good job opportunities in the Bay Area, and the metropolitan and national economies would function better.

DENSITY isn’t a magic elixir. One can’t create wealth just by crowding people together; otherwise the super-dense metropolitan areas in emerging Asian countries would be richer than American cities. Density simply facilitates interaction. Interactions translate into wealth when a population is educated and local institutions support private enterprise and entrepreneurship.

The world’s richest places tend to be dense, with well-educated residents and a free-market-orientation (or tax havens or oil-rich) — think of New York and the Bay Area, of Singapore, Hong Kong and the Netherlands. Without a stock of skilled workers and a relatively open marketplace, density’s impact on growth and productivity will be limited.

What is it exactly that dense cities are doing? Consider a simple example. Suppose that within a population one person in 100 develops a taste for Vietnamese cuisine, and suppose that a Vietnamese restaurant needs a customer base of 1,000 people to operate profitably. In a city of 10,000 residents, there aren’t enough people to support a Vietnamese restaurant. The only restaurants that can operate profitably are those appealing to considerably more than one in 100 people — restaurants offering less daring fare. In a city of 10,000 people, there is little room for specialization, and less for experimentation.

A city of one million people, by contrast, can support multiple Vietnamese restaurants. Not only will this larger city enjoy a specialty cuisine unavailable in less populous places, but its ability to support multiple producers of this cuisine allows for competition, improving the price and quality.

A city with multiple Vietnamese restaurants may attract sellers of the fresh ingredients used in Vietnamese cooking, who then invest in distribution of those products in the larger city. This, in turn, attracts the sort of discerning eaters who favor authentic, high-quality Vietnamese food, reinforcing the concentration of Vietnamese eateries. The larger market facilitates competition, which again boosts quality and reduces prices. This is good for consumers. But competition also means better service from suppliers and growth in the consumer market, which is good for the restaurants. The result is a stronger, more productive and higher-quality microeconomy than in the city of 100,000, where only one Vietnamese restaurant can survive, or the town of 10,000, where there is none at all.

Density doesn’t work without talent. A small market may only support restaurants producing food that caters to a broad range of tastes. These restaurants will have to hire generalists — cooks who can produce a broad range of cuisines. Specialization and fine-tuning of one’s skills aren’t rewarded; too few patrons will have the specific taste for the particular cuisine to appreciate the quality. Time spent nailing down the nuances of one cuisine is time a chef isn’t using to maintain a good-enough command of a broad range of dishes.

In the larger market, supporting multiple niche cuisines, the calculus is different. Because there may be multiple Vietnamese restaurants competing for patrons, mastery of that specific style is necessary to maintain an edge against the competition. This is particularly true as the concentration of Vietnamese restaurants is likely to attract devotees of the cuisine with a well-developed knowledge of and taste for it. Hence, the larger marketplace pushes for, rather than against, specialization.

Meanwhile, a worker hoping to make a living as a Vietnamese chef will have a much easier time of things in the larger city. Labor turnover may be greater — if there’s only one Vietnamese restaurant in a town, then head-chef spots may only rarely open up — and so the odds of finding employment are higher. The larger city also provides insurance against bad fortune. If you’re a Vietnamese chef working at the one Vietnamese restaurant in a town and the one Vietnamese restaurant goes bankrupt, then you’re obviously in a tough economic situation. You must either take another job for which you’re less qualified, which may mean a reduction in compensation, or move. In the larger city, by contrast, competing restaurants can absorb and reemploy the labor and resources of defunct competitors.

This insurance function is important. It reduces the risks associated with specialization and therefore encourages more of it. By allowing workers to focus on tasks at which they’re relatively better than others, specialization helps drive economic growth. It’s also an engine of innovation. As workers focus on a specific task, they may well find better ways to do it. They might better schedule their days or invent something entirely new — software code written to expedite repeated tasks, or a machine that automates portions of a task. Of course, existing companies can be resistant to innovation. Dense cities, by acting as a source of insurance, enable workers with good ideas to take risks and start new businesses. If these workers fail, they have a good chance of finding employment elsewhere in the city. And if they succeed, the task of staffing the company is made easier by the existing pool of talent, and odds are good that customers and suppliers are close to hand, as well. Big cities provide a climate in which innovation can flourish, and in which innovators have the resources they need to exploit new ideas.

WHAT’S true for Vietnamese cooking is true of skill-intensive industries. The American economy’s famous upward mobility rested in part on middle-class access to rich, entrepreneurial cities. This machinery is breaking down, however, mostly because upward mobility strikes too many residents of rich places as too messy a pursuit to accommodate. During the Industrial Revolution, for instance, millions of workers flooded into fast-growing cities. This produced slums, but it also allowed poor workers to take advantage of opportunities in new industries, a process that helped create the middle class.

Rapid urban growth would mean denser neighborhoods, which makes many Americans uncomfortable. Preventing this density, however, denies workers access to the best opportunities, constraining the mechanism that helps support a strong middle class.

We can hope that as the Phoenixes and Houstons grow and attract skilled workers, their wage levels will converge with those of the slow-growing, high-wage coastal cities. Yet that may simply encourage their residents to pull up the ladder after them as coastal residents have. Eventually, Americans will learn that if they can’t harness their cities as tools of growth and mobility, they’ll have to find costlier ways to address the country’s lingering economic ills.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/op...pagewanted=all
     
     
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Downtown L.A. stadium developer lays out parking, transit plans

Downtown L.A. stadium developer lays out parking, transit plans

Los Angeles Times
9/26/2011


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"Los Angeles lawmakers Monday got their first peek at a transportation plan for the proposed 72,000-seat football stadium in downtown Los Angeles.

In a presentation to a City Council committee, a transportation consultant for the project’s developer, Anschutz Entertainment Group, laid out preliminary proposals on how to ease traffic congestion and improve public transit near the stadium. He described a parking strategy that would direct game-day drivers to parking zones based on the direction they’re traveling from and explained plans for an AEG-funded expansion of a light rail station on Pico Boulevard..."

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http://www.ladowntownnews.com/developmen...ba0cc08-e0bc-11e0-a5ff-001cc4c002e0.html

Downtown News posted their tri-annual downtown development update. Nothing too excting, except that next month is when One Santa Fe is supposed to break ground ($150 million dollars) and the renovation of the Clifton's Cafeteria facade should start in the next few months.
     
     
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I forgot to mention in one of my post's yesterday that I finally got caught up reading B. Yen's blog. And let me just say........Brigham, you have a great eye for urban detail. For me, its those details that make an area 'citified'; not skyscrapers..........not that I don't get turned on by a good skyscraper.....I do. When I left LA, it was a downtown looking for a city; for people to fill it up. Now that scenario is happening.....its an incredibly awesome time to be living in DTLA. And I believe its those details that Brigham likes to point out that will make DTLA a place where people want to live and play.

The thing I wanted to mention was a comment Brigham made in his blog. He was talking about retail development in DTLA. He pointed out a photo of Macy's/NY, hoping that such an urban dept store will locate in downtown........clearly, the current Macy's in DTLA doesn't count.

First, its pathetic that DTLA lost both Robinson-May and Bullocks. Its too bad that DTLA was allowed to deteriorate to that degree. However, what's good is that the bldgs housing those two stores still exist and could be the catalyst for bringing in another dept store. The old Bullocks especially lends itself to all kinds of creative redevelopment.

The reason I am pointing this out is that Curbed Seattle recently posted that the rumor re. JC Penney's plan for a new store in DT Seattle is true. Now before you get all pissy about a JC Penney......remember you want DTLA to be a true neigborhood that caters to all kinds of people; not just one that services the needs of Nordstrom and Barney residents. I hope.

What's cool about the JC Penney store is that the original store left DT Seattle 30 years ago. No one ever expected it to come back........and yet it has. Why is that happening now? JC Penney thinks DT Seattle now has a big enough demographic of residents and workers to make their new store work. And Target agrees with them.....their new store opens next year.

I believe this is the beginning of a trend that other DTs are starting to experience. Its only a matter of time before LA gets on the wagon. The small retail stores opening up on 7th and on Spring and on Broadway eventually will pave the way to a new dept store for DTLA. And yes, I understand you would much prefer to get a Bloomies than a JC Penney. No worries...its LA, not Seattle.
I believe both Robinson's and Bullocks were gobbled up by Macy's, weren't they? Macy's is still in Macy's Plaza on 7th and the other location on 7th and Fig closed and is now becoming Target. The bottom floor of Macy's became Gold's Gym some time back. Macy's operated two stores for quite some time. I wish they would extensively remodel the existing store. The old Brooks Brothers on 7th is now Bottega Louie. BB moved to another location Downtown and then gave up their lease. Two steps forward, one step back Downtown.
     
     
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If AEG wants people to use transit in great numbers, the only way to do this is build less parking and incentivize transit with a discount or some kind of rebate toward the ticket price (or the transit fare)
     
     
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