NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS - Page 109

NYguy · #**2161** Posted **Aug 27, 2012, 12:52 PM**

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Massive update by 600West218, all credits to him:

Untitled by 600West218, on Flickr

Great photos. You get an idea of how tight the site is.

THE BIG APPLE · #**2162** Posted **Aug 27, 2012, 1:08 PM**

All it takes (in NYC) is for a building to occupy 25% or less of the occupied land and it could go at high as technology can take it. This is one case scenario. Same with the Twin Towers.

phoenixboi08 · #**2163** Posted **Aug 27, 2012, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE

All it takes (in NYC) is for a building to occupy 25% or less of the occupied land and it could go at high as technology can take it. This is one case scenario. Same with the Twin Towers.

I've been struggling with this concept (I assume you're referring to FAR). Can you explain what you mean by "occupy[ing] 25% or less of the occupied land?"

THE BIG APPLE · #**2164** Posted **Aug 27, 2012, 1:54 PM**

^ Simple. Take the area of land between 56th and 57th that this tower will one day sit on. The area of this plot of land what ever it may be (haven't done the math yet), has to be occupied ATLEAST 25% for the building to go an unaccountable height. That doesn't mean that if 432 Park Ave takes up 26% it'll be drastically shorter, BUT just a bit. Now I believe this building has a length of 93 or in the 90's and the width being the same also. That makes the area it takes up being 8,100+ sq ft, and this number (8,100+) has to be 25% of the entire area of the land for the main tower to go an unaccountable height. The shorter buildings are a different issue, and I think this land will have one short building, but that doesn't really matter because it's... short.

Surrealplaces · #**2165** Posted **Aug 27, 2012, 6:06 PM**

Excellent to see this one moving along. I can't wait to see this when it's above grade.....curious to see how it's thin profile will look in the mix.

mrnyc · #**2166** Posted **Aug 27, 2012, 6:34 PM**

wow they are really going to town on this one now. remarkable.

NYguy · #**2167** Posted **Aug 28, 2012, 12:36 PM**

Wet morning, but the show goes on...

(August 28, 2012)

www.432park.com

Ed007Toronto · #**2168** Posted **Aug 28, 2012, 1:47 PM**

Thanks for the update.

2-TOWERS · #**2169** Posted **Aug 28, 2012, 2:32 PM**

Well hopefully ( we will keep our fingers crossed ) that this will be a 1400 footer or real close to it...

shakman · #**2170** Posted **Aug 28, 2012, 4:58 PM**

When will we see the tower crane(s)?

MrSlippery519 · #**2171** Posted **Aug 29, 2012, 5:39 PM**

Almost all of the ramp is gone, will likely be completely gone by the end of day tomorrow. I assume we will see the crane assembly starting any day now alone with the rest of the slab.

It's going to be an interesting next few weeks as the tower will start to rise to street level.

chris123678 · #**2172** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 12:26 AM**

I can't wait to see this one rise. One of my friends knows someone who works at this tower and he says that it could be visible up to street level by the end of this year or early next year. Also it could be topped by late 2014 if no delays occur.

Lecom · #**2173** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 3:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by phoenixboi08

I've been struggling with this concept (I assume you're referring to FAR). Can you explain what you mean by "occupy[ing] 25% or less of the occupied land?"

For instance, think of the classic Art Deco buildings, like the Empire State or Chrysler. The bulk of their footprint is relatively low, but as it rises up in setbacks, when the tower gets to be about 1/4 area of the site's footprint, the building's height really skyrockets.

marcatio · #**2174** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 10:15 AM**

6:06AM (EST)-There's every likelihood that the digging will finish today. However, we won't see it, or the departure of the Hitachi (unless the cam gets fixed soon), because yet again, the Park Avenue cam is down. I wonder if it's done on purpose.

Since the last slab section has been poured, action for the last 3 weeks has been concentrated on the corner of E. 56St and Park Avenue, as the Hitachi EX800 has spent its time loading out dump trucks that have lined the street. All that remains for Mayrich to do is complete the slab section toward Park Avenue (assuming it is their responsibility per contract to complete the slab) to hand over the completed foundation.

MrSlippery519 · #**2175** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 1:09 PM**

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All that remains for Mayrich to do is complete the slab section toward Park Avenue (assuming it is their responsibility per contract to complete the slab) to hand over the completed foundation.

If that is correct I assume we have another week...likely finish up the dirt removal today and then next week preparing the rest of the area for concrete should be done easily.

Ed007Toronto · #**2176** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 1:32 PM**

And then it starts to rise.

MrSlippery519 · #**2177** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 2:28 PM**

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And then it starts to rise.

That is the hope...really hope this starts rising uninterrupted. Unfortunately we really do not know the plan once the foundation is complete and it's passed onto the next contractor.

kingsdl76 · #**2178** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by 2-TOWERS

Well hopefully ( we will keep our fingers crossed ) that this will be a 1400 footer or real close to it...

Is the height of 1398 not confirmed? Could it be potentially taller or shorter?

hunser · #**2179** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 5:18 PM**

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Is the height of 1398 not confirmed? Could it be potentially taller or shorter?

Only taller. The 1398 figure comes directly from the DOB (filings). But DOB papers aren't final so we still have to wait for an official release from the developer to confirm the final height.

Zapatan · #**2180** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 5:56 PM**

One of the diagram/renderings/cutaways showed the roof at 1398 but it could have just been a mistake

However the DOB listed One57 as 953 feet so it could be the top floor.

Either way it'll be nice to have such a tall building in this part of midtown, and it will pave the way for many more.