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Old Posted May 25, 2021, 4:09 AM
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Old Posted May 25, 2021, 9:10 PM
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Well i know there are a lot of Cubans at 35th and Shields....just not sure elsewhere.... 8)
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Old Posted May 25, 2021, 10:24 PM
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Well i know there are a lot of Cubans at 35th and Shields....just not sure elsewhere.... 8)
Must be more recent

Born in Cuba
1. North Center: 279 people
2. Rogers Park: 199
3. Portage Park: 178
4. Irving Park: 163
5. Ashburn: 160
6. Uptown: 159
7. Edgewater: 156
8. O'Hare: 138
9. Avondale: 137
10. Lincoln Park: 105

Now for others. Again, only showing areas with 50+ representation of the country..

Born in Nigeria
1. Rogers Park: 1704 people
2. West Ridge: 1054
3. Douglas: 539
4. South Chicago: 473
5. Uptown: 458
6. South Shore: 454
7. Edgewater: 305
8. Albany Park: 274
9. Lakeview: 206
10T. Chatham: 188
10T. Near West Side: 188

Born in Ghana
1. Uptown: 985 people
2. Rogers Park: 562
3. Lakeview: 477
4. South Shore: 243
5. Douglas: 221
6. West Ridge: 175
7. Oakland: 172
8. Chatham: 154
9. Edgewater: 142
10. Woodlawn: 131

Born in Ireland
1. Norwood Park: 374 people
2. Lakeview: 261
3. Jefferson Park: 227
4. Dunning: 166
5. Edison Park: 163
6. Lincoln Park: 153
7. Portage Park: 135
8. Forest Glen: 133
9. Lincoln Square: 118
10. Mount Greenwood: 114

Born in Ethiopia
1. Uptown: 941 people
2. Edgewater: 461
3. Rogers Park: 284
4. West Ridge: 232
5. Near North Side: 132
6. Near West Side: 86
7. Lakeview: 76
8. Irving Park: 53


Born in UK
1. Near North Side: 691 people
2. Lakeview: 464
3. Lincoln Park: 382
4. West Town: 364
5. The Loop: 342
6. Hyde Park: 266
7. Near West Side: 251
8. Uptown: 249
9. North Center: 215
10. Rogers Park: 180

Born in Canada
1. Near North Side: 626 people
2. Lincoln Park: 541
3. The Loop: 466
4. Lakeview: 373
5. Near South Side: 311
6. Near West Side: 283
7. West Town: 262
8. Logan Square: 258
9. Hyde Park: 249
10. Uptown: 235

Born in Morocco
1. O'Hare: 269 people
2. North Park: 181
3. Irving Park: 177
4T. Albany Park: 128
4T. Portage Park: 128
6. West Ridge: 106
7. Rogers Park: 95
8. Belmont Cragin: 93


Born in Chile
1. Hyde Park: 112 people
2. Lakeview: 96
3. Near North Side: 84
4. Dunning: 66
5. The Loop: 64
6. Lincoln Square: 60
7. Lower West Side: 59

Born in Somalia
1. West Ridge: 531 people
2. Edgewater: 151

Born in Congo
1. Rogers Park: 260 people
2. O'Hare: 76
3. Douglas: 59

Born in South Africa
1. Lakeview: 80 people
2. West Ridge: 69
3. Near North Side: 50

Born in Eritrea
1. Rogers Park: 204 people
2. Uptown: 147
3. West Ridge: 59

Born in Liberia
1. West Ridge: 173 people
2. Albany Park: 66
3. Chatham: 61
4. Woodlawn: 51

Born in Sudan
1. Albany Park: 97 people
2. Rogers Park: 62
3. West Ridge: 50

Born in Senegal
1. Morgan Park: 123 people
2. West Ridge: 92

Born in Barbados
1. Morgan Park: 70 people
2. Woodlawn: 65

Born in Cameroon
1. West Ridge: 79 people
2. Uptown: 53 people

Born in Kenya
1. West Ridge: 64 people


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Old Posted May 26, 2021, 4:28 PM
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Renaming of Lake Shore Drive may hit roadblock
Any two aldermen can move to “defer and publish,” which delays action for one meeting without explanation. The move is likely to start with downtown Ald. Brian Hopkins.
By Fran Spielman May 26, 2021, 10:17am CDT

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Mayor Lori Lightfoot has made it clear she has “concerns” about the name change. She fears changing the name of Chicago’s most iconic and picturesque boulevard — made famous in song and movies — could hurt marketing of the city and be costly and cumbersome for homeowners and businesses.

“If she’s saying that, that’s a negative undertone to me towards Black people. I don’t know where she gets that from. That tells me that a Black person’s name is not marketable,” Moore said.
I'm with Lori on this one and it's bullsh*t from Moore to suggest racial issues underlie pushback against the renaming. I'm not one who is normally sentimental towards roadways, but I feel as if there are three main roads that are "iconic" for Chicago: Michigan Avenue (The Mag Mile), State Street, and Lake Shore Drive. Has there been any polling that indicates the majority of Chicago residents approve of renaming Lake Shore Drive? Assuming the City Council ultimately follows through with this renaming, is it possible to place it on the ballot for next year?
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^ doesn't matter.

it'll be like the renaming of the sears tower (who the hell calls it willis?).

"officials" can "officially" rename LSD with any "official" name they want to.

everyone will still just call it Lake Shore Drive anyway.

it's too famous to rename it in practice.
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Old Posted May 26, 2021, 5:45 PM
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I'm with Lori on this one and it's bullsh*t from Moore to suggest racial issues underlie pushback against the renaming. I'm not one who is normally sentimental towards roadways, but I feel as if there are three main roads that are "iconic" for Chicago: Michigan Avenue (The Mag Mile), State Street, and Lake Shore Drive. Has there been any polling that indicates the majority of Chicago residents approve of renaming Lake Shore Drive? Assuming the City Council ultimately follows through with this renaming, is it possible to place it on the ballot for next year?
^ When you can't fix real problems, just start renaming shit.
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Can't they just call it Dusable Lake Shore Drive or some stupid thing like that?
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Old Posted May 26, 2021, 7:41 PM
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Can't they just call it Dusable Lake Shore Drive or some stupid thing like that?
that would be WAY too simple and easy.

are you familiar with the level of monumental dip-shittery that can be found on the city council of chicago?

but as i said earlier, this is all just a stupid distraction. no one is actually going to start calling it "dusable drive".
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Can't they just call it Dusable Lake Shore Drive or some stupid thing like that?
I would be fine with this, but I guess the idiots in city council want LSD completely removed. Asinine. This will hurt the city's branding and marketability. How does this help anyone within city limits? This does nothing to improve QOL on the south or west sides.

Doesn't the city have much bigger problems to tackle? This is simply cheap vote buying. (Well, cheap for the alderman that is. It will cost city residents $2.5 million to replace signage)
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I would be fine with this, but I guess the idiots in city council want LSD completely removed. Asinine. This will hurt the city's branding and marketability. How does this help anyone within city limits? This does nothing to improve QOL on the south or west sides.

Doesn't the city have much bigger problems to tackle? This is simply cheap vote buying. (Well, cheap for the alderman that is. It will cost city residents $2.5 million to replace signage)
Exactly, and we pay 50 of these fools to do this? What a catastrophic waste of tax money.
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Interesting to pursue the woke purists by naming LSD after a colonizer like Dusable... oh well, like Steely said it will always be Lake Shore Drive.
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Yeah, Moore is being obtuse. While I don't have a big issue with the renaming, using this as some kind of restorative justice is patronizing.
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^ Here is how a so-called elected leader behaves after the vote on the name change is delayed. From Crains:

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After today's delay, Moore promised to hold up all council business until the DuSable name change is approved.

“I will do everything to disrupt . . . every item," Moore said.

As the City Clerk then listed off new legislation to be introduced, Moore called out different committee names, dooming more than a dozen new pieces of legislation to the Rules Committee to be re-referred at a later date. Moore has said he faced pushback from the Lightfoot administration on the Lake Shore Drive change.
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Politicians are the worst sometimes. They'll do anything at times for a vote instead of the right thing. So we really think alderman give a shit that some tower is 465 feet vs. 325 feet? They are just giving into a select few people to get votes next time around.

It's all bullshit. Just imagine where various places would be without politicians pandering to everything.

As for lake shore drive...it'll always be named that no matter what the official name is.
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Such a bullshit move. ALL of it. Glad that Lori is trying hard to stop this.
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Exactly, and we pay 50 of these fools to do this? What a catastrophic waste of tax money.
Yup. Absolutely wasteful. As I mentioned in a post in this thread a few weeks ago, LA has 15 alderman (1 per 265,000 people), NYC has 51 (1 per 165,000). Philly has 5 (1 per 300,000). At 50 alderman, Chicago has one alderman per 54,000 people. We can easily halve that number and *still* have much more representation than those cities.


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Such a bullshit move. ALL of it. Glad that Lori is trying hard to stop this.
If she successfully blocks this, I just might vote for her reelection. Or, at the very least, I would not be openly hostile to her getting reelected, lol
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There's been constant talk about renaming Columbus Drive. If they're ever going to do it, renaming it DuSable Drive would seem like a good option.
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There's been constant talk about renaming Columbus Drive. If they're ever going to do it, renaming it DuSable Drive would seem like a good option.
Oooh. . . that would be a good idea actually. . . kill two birds with one stone. . .

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There's been constant talk about renaming Columbus Drive. If they're ever going to do it, renaming it DuSable Drive would seem like a good option.
This has my vote
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Interesting to pursue the woke purists by naming LSD after a colonizer like Dusable... oh well, like Steely said it will always be Lake Shore Drive.
Lol such a salient point. People will not shut the fuck up about racism and slavery, but how often do we actually talk about what is possibly the deepest, darkest, original sin of this nation? The extermination and assimilation of the native people's.

Honestly I don't go around bragging like I'm some kind of Elizabeth Warren impersonator, but my own family tree typifies the horror of the native holocaust. My furthest back branch of the family tree isn't any of various European immigrant ancestors fleeing genocide at the hands of the British (Irish) or Russians (Polish) or Prussians fleeing oppression of the Austrian empire, it's French fur traders who immigrated to Quebec in the late 1600's and then intermarried with the Native American population as they made their way up the St Lawrence seaway.

Eventually they settled in Fond Du Lac, WI (fun fact, this is French for "bottom of the lake" which is where on the shores of Winnebago it is located) and changed their names from Lajeunesse (French for "the younger") to Jung (German for Young) because the French name was a dead giveaway that you were Indian blood.


Whatever Natives were not outright killed in the plauges brought over from Europe or slaughtered by actual armed conflict, were assimilated and melded into the population in this way. No one talks about it, no one talks about the entire sections of this country that are basically open air prisons for those who refused to assimilate. No one talks about how ALL the people's brought in from overseas are essentially an invasive species that destroyed possibly the last bit of the world truly in a "natural state". No one talks about the complexity of having French, Hatians, other Europeans, etc all melting together into the ancestry of this country.

It's all about visual race (skin color) because that's what's easy for politicians to market themselves on. Just look at Lightfoot's own stupidity about not being interviewed by "whites".

It honestly drives me nuts because I don't identify as "white" or European just because I have an Irish last name. I'm actually 1/8 "Jung" a/k/a Lajeunesse, I'm no more than 1/16th Irish. I don't even look all that "White" if you actually look closely. I have olive skin that turns darker than many of my Hispanic friends in the summer, I have (and now my son does, which is super cute) almond eyes. I actually have a fair amount of "native" features, but because my Mom escaped the redneck life that my grandpa lived and became the first person in her entire family to go to college, none of my complex family origins matter.

It just goes to show the people don't actually care ethnic origins, they just associate education, privledge, and how you speak with "whiteness" which I would argue is a big contributor to the issues we face to begin with. If you are an "articulate black man" like Obama, then you get a pass, but show any signs of educational, economic, or racial diversity and you are fighting an uphill battle.

Again, I am not pulling an Elizabeth Warren here, merely pointing out that the story of this country is far more complex than "black people were slaves". Much of the political jibber jabber is designed to divide Americans, not unify them. Far more relevant to my own privledge and position in life than the fact that my grandpa was a hard drinking, rough and tumble redneck with ancestors going back over 300 years (and thousands if you follow the Indian lines that we have no way of ever tracing) is what my parents did with their lives. It only takes a generation or two to truly move up in American society, but we choose to separate ourselves and deny access to that birthright based on skin color or how people talk. I'm so disgusted and sick of it, the rhetoric lately has not been helping, again instead of uniting our society, everyone, both left and right, wants tribalism. It starts with individual racists and goes right up from stupid local politicians like this alderman who don't actually want to fix anything, but rather get cheap political points by renaming roads, and goes all the way up to the office of the president.
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