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Old Posted May 20, 2021, 4:34 PM
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It's for one day to send a message. Don't see what the big deal is. It's not like pols don't normally carefully curate who interviews them.
No, but to blatantly say she won't grant interviews based on the color of skin..... does come across as bad, regardless of how you feel about Lori.

Even if it's just for one day, it's hard to look at it and not interpret that as racist. Bad move on Lori's part.
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it's a simple protest tactic to draw attention to an issue she feels is important.

a lot of suburban republicans will get all hot and bothered by it.

and most chicagoans won't care.
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it's a simple protest tactic to draw attention to an issue she feels is important.

a lot of suburban republicans will get all hot and bothered by it.

and most chicagoans won't care.
Even Kinzinger probably doesn't care about it... Honestly, I think it's just another stupid little story to get the far-right nuts' panties in a huge bunch. More like the central and southern Illinois republicans, not so much the suburban ones. Haha

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It's for one day to send a message. Don't see what the big deal is. It's not like pols don't normally carefully curate who interviews them.
I don't think it is only for one day. Its not just suburban republicans miffed


It is the Number one topic nationally when you google NEWs Chicago.

And there is not one positive article about it from WSJ or most other trusted news source.




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And there is not one positive article about it from WSJ or most other trusted news source.
since when have any of your "trusted news sources" ever published a single positive article about anything related to Chicago?

"Biased news media is biased, film at 11."




oooooohhhhh, but John jacKass is now upset about this (non)issue?

once that obnoxious imbecile starts bloviating, you know it's high time to care even less.
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since when have any of your "trusted news sources" ever published a single positive article about anything related to Chicago?

"Biased news media is biased, film at 11."




oooooohhhhh, but John jacKass is now upset about this (non)issue?

once that obnoxious imbecile starts bloviating, you know it's high time to care even less.
Sometimes I wish it was my job to get myself worked up over something minor and shitpost in a wide-read newspaper.
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Says one day in the 1st article shown on your link.....
"over a move to earmark a single day exclusively for Black and Latino reporters to interview the mayor "
It's a big nothing burger....let her make her point about a lack of diversity of reporters and move on.
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It was also a shrewd diversionary tactic on her part, I must say.
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It was also a shrewd diversionary tactic on her part, I must say.
Perhaps it gives her some time to finally do what she really needs to do and put her goddamned foot down on the Police and Teachers' unions for their shenanigans. More so the police union for their continued acceptance and protection of dirty cops, but the teachers union isn't doing their rank and file and favors, either.

These issues are some of the biggest ones Chicago faces. Along with the ever-present pension crisis, of course.

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I never had a chance to populate the data for foreign born 2019 in Chicago based on the 2019 ACS. Here you go, at least to start with some places. Only including areas that have at least 50 people for the country.

Born in China
1. Bridgeport: 8223 people
2. Armour Square: 6621 people
3. Brighton Park: 3138 people
4. Near West Side: 2555 people
5. McKinley Park: 2471 people
6. Near North Side: 2434 people
7. The Loop: 2355 people
8. Hyde Park: 1386 people
9. Douglas: 1243 people
10. Lakeview: 1175 people

Chinatown + Bridgeport = 14,844 people
4 areas of downtown = 8143 people

Those 2 areas together (which are all adjacent) = 22,987 people

Put into perspective by the way - all of Manhattan south of Houston Street (this includes Chinatown, FiDi, TriBeCa, etc) is around 33,000 people born in China. Flushing in Queens is something like 35K to 40K people born in China (probably more if you extend even further out). If you extend along I-55 then in Chicago its a little over 31,000 people born in China. Of course this area in Chicago is a lot larger physical area wise. Just some perspective though on the population size.

Born in India
1. West Ridge: 3340
2. Near North Side: 2437
3. Near West Side: 2355
4. The Loop: 1452
5. Douglas: 1243
6. Albany Park: 1144
7. Edgewater: 1021
8. Lakeview: 1007
9. O'Hare: 784
10. Near South Side: 729

4 areas that makeup greater downtown = 6973 people born in India.

Born in Philippines
1. Albany Park: 2508
2. Portage Park: 1898
3. West Ridge: 1821
4. Irving Park: 1623
5. Dunning: 1362
6. Lincoln Square: 1049
7. Belmont Cragin: 994
8. North Park: 947
9. Edgewater: 865
10. Uptown: 846

4 areas that makeup downtown = 1397 people

Born in South Korea
1. Near North Side: 612
2. Uptown: 583
3. Albany Park: 580
4. The Loop: 529
5. West Ridge: 528
6. North Park: 517
7. Near West Side: 485
8. Lincoln Park: 434
9. West Town: 418
10. Lincoln Square: 379

4 areas that makeup downtown = 1676 people

Born in Vietnam
1. West Ridge: 2178 people
2. Uptown: 961
3. Albany Park: 737
4. Jefferson Park: 505
5. North Park: 480
6. Edgewater: 390
7. Lincoln Square: 274
8. Forest Glen: 253
9. Irving Park: 207
10. Bridgeport: 181

Born in Pakistan
1. West Ridge: 2992 people
2. Edgewater: 536
3. Uptown: 481
4. North Park: 478
5. Lincoln Park: 206
6. West Town: 201
7. Lakeview: 176
8. Near West Side: 122
9. Bridgeport: 102
10. Chatham: 85

Born in Syria
1. West Ridge: 1587 people
2. Rogers Park: 510
3. O'Hare: 248
4. Lincoln Square: 217
5. Near South Side: 98
6. Ashburn: 68
7. Lincoln Park: 60
8. West Town: 53


Born in Iraq
1. West Ridge: 1986 people
2. North Park: 480
3. Lincoln Square: 193
4. Near North Side: 154
5. Albany Park: 135
6. Rogers Park: 131
7. O'Hare: 113
8. Belmont Cragin: 101
9. Norwood Park: 98
10. Lakeview: 87

Born in Jordan
1. West Ridge: 353 people
2. O'Hare: 299
3. Portage Park: 256
4. Uptown: 171
5. Near North Side: 159
6. Ashburn: 154
7. Austin: 146
8. Near South Side: 131
9. Hegewisch: 129
10. Garfield Ridge: 95


Born in Japan
1. Near North Side: 568 people
2. The Loop: 233
3. Edgewater: 196
4. Uptown: 159
5. Lakeview: 148
6. Irving Park: 128
7. Lincoln Park: 119
8. West Town: 113
9. Hyde Park: 106
10. Kenwood: 91

Born in Thailand
1. West Ridge: 426 people
2. Edgewater: 245
3. Lakeview: 210
4. Near West Side: 205
5. Near North Side: 204
6. Albany Park: 152
7. Lincoln Square: 143
8. Uptown: 137
9. North Park: 104
10. Forest Glen: 96

Born in Saudi Arabia
1. Near West Side: 208 people
2. Near North Side: 162
3. Uptown: 146
4. West Ridge: 127
5. Douglas: 110
6. Lincoln Park: 94
7. Kenwood: 59
8. The Loop: 53

Born in Israel
1. Ashburn: 208 people
2. West Ridge: 199
3T. Lakeview: 152
3T. The Loop: 152
5. Near North Side: 134
6. Lincoln Park: 128
7. Hyde Park: 100
8. Rogers Park: 85
9. North Park: 73
10. West Town: 70

Born in Iran
1. Near North Side: 279 people
2. Edgewater: 244
3. West Ridge: 205
4. Near West Side: 172
5. Lakeview: 126
6. Lincoln Park: 104
7. The Loop: 71
8. Logan Square: 59
9. North Park: 54
10. Rogers Park: 53

Born in Turkey
1. West Ridge: 170 people
2. Douglas: 130
3. Lincoln Square: 99
4. The Loop: 94
5. Hyde Park: 68
6. Logan Square: 55
7. North Park: 54

Born in Malaysia
1. West Ridge: 427 people
2. Lincoln Square: 102
3. Rogers Park: 91
4. Near West Side: 69
5. Lakeview: 62
6. Edgewater: 61

Born in Nepal
1. Edgewater: 536 people
2. West Ridge: 150
3. Lakeview: 120
4. Uptown: 79
5. Rogers Park: 67
6. North Park: 51
7. Bridgeport: 50

Born in Lebanon
1. West Ridge: 194 people
2. Lincoln Square: 130
3. Lower West Side: 83
4. Edgewater: 62
5T. Near North Side: 57
5T. West Town: 57
7. Rogers Park: 51

Born in Cambodia
1. Uptown: 189 people
2. North Park: 143
3. Forest Glen: 115
4. Albany Park: 109
5. Austin: 57

Born in Burma
1. West Ridge: 198
2. Edgewater: 131
3. Bridgeport: 87
4. Lincoln Square: 82
5. Rogers Park: 73
6. West Lawn: 50

Born in Afghanistan
1. West Ridge: 187 people
2. Rogers Park: 126

Born in Kazakhstan
All under 50 people (Near North Side #1 here)

Born in Bangladesh
1. West Ridge: 285 people

Born in Sri Lanka
1. West Ridge: 141 people
2. Edgewater: 140
3. Near West Side: 51

Born in Uzbekistan
1. Near North Side: 115 people
2. O'Hare: 101

Born in Indonesia
All under 50 people (Near North Side #1 here)

Born in Laos
1. New City: 72 people

Born in Singapore
1. Uptown: 163 people
2. Hyde Park: 62
3. Lakeview: 58

Born in Kuwait
1. West Ridge: 138 people
2. Edgewater: 118
3. O'Hare: 65

Born in Yemen
1. North Park: 131 people
2. Irving Park: 95
3. West Ridge: 94
4. Lincoln Square: 66

Born in Armenia
1. Norwood Park: 66
2. Near West Side: 54
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^ Nice job, dude! Check out West Ridge, Chicago’s little United Nations
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^ Nice job, dude! Check out West Ridge, Chicago’s little United Nations
Thanks. Not that hard to do ultimately, but still fun. The areas in the very north of the city like West Ridge, Rogers Park, Albany Park, etc are very diverse. It's kind of like a mini Queens in a way in some areas. Although I'd say a lot of areas in Chicago are like that - Gage Park, Brighton Park, McKinley Park, Little Village, Portage Park, South Lawndale, Dunning, Chicago Lawn, etc etc.

Here's a few more. Honestly Poland surprises me with the #1 but I might be slightly behind the times on that one...

Born in Mexico
1. South Lawndale: 25,762 people
2. Belmont Cragin: 19,673
3. Brighton Park: 14,435
4. Gage Park: 12,990
5. Chicago Lawn: 10,474
6. West Lawn: 9864
7. New City: 9710
8. Lower West Side: 8639
9. Humboldt Park: 7902
10. Albany Park: 6394

Born in Poland
1. Dunning: 6459 people
2. Portage Park: 4966
3. Norwood Park: 2471
4. Belmont Cragin: 2396
5. Garfield Ridge: 2297
6. O'Hare: 2215
7. Jefferson Park: 2050
8. Avondale: 1064
9. Montclare: 1027
10. Clearing: 875

Born in Ukraine
1. West Town: 1624 people
2. O'Hare: 782
3. Dunning: 643
4. Norwood Park: 430
5. Belmont Cragin: 411
6. Uptown: 386
7. Portage Park: 327
8. West Ridge: 284
9. Montclare: 281
10. Near North Side: 245

Born in Romania
1. West Ridge: 1060 people
2. Portage Park: 866
3. Uptown: 388
4. Albany Park: 344
5. Norwood Park: 326
6. Forest Glen: 266
7T. Irving Park: 262
7T. Rogers Park: 262
9. Jefferson Park: 256
10. Dunning: 246


Born in Russia
1. Lakeview: 646 people
2. Uptown: 504
3. West Ridge: 385
4. Lincoln Park: 296
5. Rogers Park: 290
6. Near North Side: 288
7T. Edgewater: 269
7T. The Loop: 269
9. Near South Side: 238
10. Logan Square: 181

Born in Bosnia and Herzegovina
1. Edgewater: 889 people
2. West Ridge: 789
3. Uptown: 349
4. Albany Park: 304
5. O'Hare: 280
6. Jefferson Park: 217
7. Irving Park: 168
8. Rogers Park: 162
9. Lakeview: 140
10. North Park: 127

Born in Germany
1. Hyde Park: 318 people
2. Armour Square: 247
3. Logan Square: 224
4. Lakeview: 223
5. Norwood Park: 193
6. Ashburn: 189
7. Burnside: 173
8. Near North Side: 159
9. The Loop: 153
10. Archer Heights: 151

Born in France
1. Hyde Park: 324 people
2. Near North Side: 295
3. The Loop: 267
4. Portage Park: 134
5. McKinley Park: 130
6. Albany Park: 113
7. Logan Square: 110
8. West Ridge: 107
9. Bridgeport: 79
10. Armour Square: 70

Born in Greece
1. Near West Side: 399 people
2. Armour Square: 325
3. Chatham: 299
4. Lakeview: 199
5. Rogers Park: 154
6. Kenwood: 149
7. Edgewater: 148
8. Archer Heights: 145
9. Near North Side: 86
10. Hyde Park: 83

Born in Italy
1. Chatham: 564 people (is this for real? Something new or older generation?)
2. Kenwood: 521
3. Lakeview: 382
4. Hyde Park: 268
5. Humboldt Park: 201
6. The Loop: 194
7. Archer Heights: 159
8. Logan Square: 150
9. Norwood Park: 143
10. West Ridge: 136

Born in Bulgaria
1. O'Hare: 257 people
2. Lincoln Square: 179
3. Near North Side: 147
4T. Irving Park: 145
4T. Norwood Park: 145
6. The Loop: 139
7. Uptown: 106
8. Albany Park: 94
9. Near West Side: 83
10. Portage Park: 71


Born in Spain
1. Near North Side: 380 people
2. Near West Side: 136
3. Hyde Park: 112
4. Portage Park: 93
5T. Brighton Park: 51
5T. Jefferson Park: 51

Born in Croatia
1. West Ridge: 261 people
2. The Loop: 172
3. Lakeview: 99
4. Hyde Park: 58

Born in Belarus
1. O'Hare: 143 people
2. Uptown: 123
3. Edgewater: 107
4. North Park: 82
5. Near North Side: 77
6. Lincoln Park: 72
7. West Ridge: 63
8. Rogers Park: 57
9. Lakeview: 55

Born in Ecuador
1. Belmont Cragin: 1966 people
2. Albany Park: 1758
3. Portage Park: 1067
4. Avondale: 884
5. Irving Park: 865
6. Humboldt Park: 808
7. Austin: 650
8. Logan Square: 622
9. Hermosa: 556
10. Uptown: 458

Born in Colombia
1. Belmont Cragin: 468 people
2. Portage Park: 444
3. Lakeview: 323
4. Lincoln Square: 306
5. West Ridge: 276
6. Austin: 224
7. Albany Park: 216
8. Logan Square: 209
9. North Park: 207
10. Lincoln Park: 196

Born in Brazil
1. Near North Side: 339 people
2. The Loop: 316
3. Lakeview: 253
4. Hyde Park: 153
5. West Town: 140
6. Douglas: 134
7. Edgewater: 132
8. Montclare: 102
9. Irving Park: 96
10. Garfield Ridge: 88

Born in Egypt
1. Portage Park: 195 people
2. Norwood Park: 178
3. Lincoln Square: 89
4. Near West Side: 79
5. West Ridge: 74
6. Near North Side: 69
7. Douglas: 64
8T. Irving Park: 54
8T. West Town: 54
10. Dunning: 44

Born in Serbia
1. O'Hare: 503 people
2. Irving Park: 250
3. Albany Park: 206
4. Near North Side: 176
5. Norwood Park: 150
6. Uptown: 123
7. Lakeview: 111
8. Forest Glen: 105
9. Edgewater: 100
10. Jefferson Park: 97

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^ The diversity of the northwest side hoods seems more fluid and natural.

Whereas the stuff you have going on in these SW side areas like Bridgeport/McKinley Park, etc just seem like a few big groups moved in and staked out their claim, but there really is no mixing.

You’ve got the Mexicans, black folks, some old school ethnic whites, and then Chinatown spillover. The diversity on the north side seems to be more broad and “fluid” in a sense.
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^ The diversity of the northwest side hoods seems more fluid and natural.

Whereas the stuff you have going on in these SW side areas like Bridgeport/McKinley Park, etc just seem like a few big groups moved in and staked out their claim, but there really is no mixing.

You’ve got the Mexicans, black folks, some old school ethnic whites, and then Chinatown spillover. The diversity on the north side seems to be more broad and “fluid” in a sense.
Well I think that the areas up north like West Ridge are of that type of newer immigration of certain countries, who are in smaller numbers. So ultimately it becomes a lot more mixed. I've seen some other neighborhoods on NW side like Portage Park get a lot more mixed in regards to this lately by the data.

Will be interesting to dive deeper into it. Just like everything else, sometimes there's more to just 1 number. Some neighborhoods might have decreased in terms of foreign born population a little bit, but they might have decreased a lot with 1 or 2 groups, and gained a bunch with like 10 other groups. One could easily argue it's actually more diverse in a case like that even if it had a little drop in overall foreign born population (i.e. more countries represented with sizable populations).
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That Yemen number you posted is total bullshit. There's at least a few hundred of them living in the Mayfair part of Albany Park. The entire area between Montrose and Lawrence along Elston is like 50% schwarma and kebab joints and there's as many people wearing the hijab and even the occasion niquab as there are yuppies with Uppababy strollers at the Park by my house every day. I've seen probably 20ish Yemeni kids and parents in one spot at the park before. Maybe there's other nationalities from Arabia mixed in, but the community seems huge and vibrant in this corner of the city.
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^ The diversity of the northwest side hoods seems more fluid and natural.

Whereas the stuff you have going on in these SW side areas like Bridgeport/McKinley Park, etc just seem like a few big groups moved in and staked out their claim, but there really is no mixing.

You’ve got the Mexicans, black folks, some old school ethnic whites, and then Chinatown spillover. The diversity on the north side seems to be more broad and “fluid” in a sense.
This data dump didn't include Central American or Caribbean countries. The data might be a little different with immigrants from Honduras, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Panama, Jamaica, DR, and Haiti included.
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This data dump didn't include Central American or Caribbean countries. The data might be a little different with immigrants from Honduras, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Panama, Jamaica, DR, and Haiti included.
Mexico already posted above..

Born in Guatemala
1. Belmont Cragin: 1629 people
2. Albany Park: 1359
3. Irving Park: 1045
4. Logan Square: 861
5. Portage Park: 762
6. Humboldt Park: 734
7. Hermosa: 515
8. West Ridge: 500
9. Edgewater: 354
10. Lincoln Square: 326

Born in Peru
1. Portage Park: 603 people
2. Dunning: 384
3. Near North Side: 298
4. Belmont Cragin: 238
5. Irving Park: 237
6. Jefferson Park: 194
7. Albany Park: 135
8. Near West Side: 90
9. Logan Square: 85
10. Hermosa: 83

Born in Honduras
1. Belmont Cragin: 403 people
2. Albany Park: 301
3. Gage Park: 241
4. Humboldt Park: 235
5. Montclare: 228
6. Portage Park: 195
7. South Lawndale: 156
8. West Town: 146
9. Jefferson Park: 138
10T. Hermosa: 123
10T. New City: 123

Born in El Salvador
1. Belmont Cragin: 563 people
2. Avondale: 554
3. Portage Park: 334
4. West Ridge: 267
5. South Lawndale: 266
6. Logan Square: 185
7. O'Hare: 185
8. Irving Park: 134
9. New City: 106
10. Jefferson Park: 95

Born in Belize
1. Rogers Park: 363 people
2. Auburn Gresham: 232
3. West Ridge: 160
4. Chicago Lawn: 138
5. Albany Park: 89
6. Calumet Heights: 78
7. Bridgeport: 68
8. Humboldt Park: 59
9. West Town: 57
10. Ashburn: 55

Born in Jamaica
1. West Ridge: 233 people
2. Austin: 228
3. Rogers Park: 145
4. Chatham: 136
5. Roseland: 105
6. Auburn Gresham: 99
7. Greater Grand Crossing: 97
8. Washington Heights: 67
9. Ashburn: 66
10T. Morgan Park: 64
10T. West Pullman: 64

Born in Haiti
1. South Shore: 370 people
2. South Chicago: 247
3. Calumet Heights: 153
4. Rogers Park: 146
5. Edgewater: 100
6. West Ridge: 82
7T. Greater Grand Crossing: 61
7T. Logan Square: 61

Born in Dominican Republic
1. Belmont Cragin: 404 people
2. Humboldt Park: 287
3. Austin: 169
4. Hermosa: 90
5. Logan Square: 81
6. Edgewater: 80
7. Avondale: 75
8. Dunning: 65
9. Montclare: 51


Born in Venezuela
1. Near North Side: 154 people
2. O'Hare: 127
3. Rogers park: 95
4. Lincoln Park: 78
5. Avondale: 72
6. Ashburn: 71
7. Lakeview: 64
8. Lincoln Square: 59
9. Portage Park: 58
10. Uptown: 56

Born in Argentina
1. Near North Side: 261 people
2. Lakeview: 149
3. Edgewater: 114
4. Logan Square: 105
5. Lincoln Park: 98
6. North Center: 74
7. West Town: 67
8. Montclare: 61
9. Rogers Park: 60
10. Dunning: 54

Born in Bolivia
1. Uptown: 119 people
2. Near North Side: 118
3. Dunning: 71
4. Irving Park: 68
5. West Ridge: 57


Born in Nicaragua
1. Avondale: 151 people
2. Hermosa: 124
3. Logan Square: 120

Born in Panama
1. Humboldt Park: 91 people
2. Lakeview: 88
3. Austin: 52

Born in Guyana
1. Greater Grand Crossing: 111 people
2. Austin: 90
3. West Pullman: 56

Born in Costa Rica
1. North Park: 56 people
2. Edgewater: 50
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^ May be, but keep in mind that there could be suburbanites who travel to these areas. This is common for ethnic groups that are relatively newer to the scene.

20 years ago, nearly all commerce for Indian retail took place on Devon, but now probably over half of it is out in the burbs.

I have a colleague who is Ukrainian, and he said they used to go to Ukrainian Village a lot while growing up for community related activities, but now they don’t go nearly as often.
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Also keep in mind these are 2019 estimates. You could be right, and the number for mid 2019 could also be right. A lot can change in about 2 years. It's not necessarily uncommon for areas up here to add a few hundred people from a various country in just 1 year even.
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There are currently about 1.2 million jobs in Chicago.  Although this is about the same as in the mid-1970s, there’s been a 
huge change in the types of jobs and where they are. This is shown in the following tables:

All city jobs
Mfg Services Other Total
1972 435,000 277,000 598,000 1,310,000
2010 65,000 583,000 363,000 1,011,000
2019 64,000 729,000 411,000 1,214,000

Downtown jobs
Mfg Services Other Total
1972 95,000 130,000 275,000 500,000
2010 6,000 302,000 171,000 479,000
2019 9,000 403,000 208,000 620,000


Comments:

1. The numbers above and many of my comments come from two websites:
• the Illinois Department of Employment Security’s yearly “Where Workers Work” reports, and
• August 9, 2019 article by Ed Zotti titled “Where the jobs are in Chicago: downtown, and that’s a good thing”.

2. Manufacturing jobs in Chicago went from 435,000 in 1972 to 65,000 in 2010; a drop of 370,000. At that point they
bottomed out and have been flat since. This, plus the beginning of the recovery from the great recession, set the stage
for strong job growth over the next nine years.

3. Service jobs have steadily grown from 277,000 (21% of total city jobs) in 1972 to 729,000 (61% of city jobs) in 2019.
Growth in downtown service jobs has been especially strong. The largest categories of service jobs are
• Professional, scientific and technical services (legal, technology, etc.),
• Accommodations and food services (hotels and restaurants), and
• Health care and social assistance.

4. From 2010 to 2019, downtown jobs grew at a rate of 15,643 per year. Over the long term, this pace is not likely to
continue - but it’s easy to imagine a 10,000 per year average. In other words, 300,000 new downtown jobs over the next
30 years. That’s a lot of jobs.

5. There’s a common perception (misperception) that jobs created downtown don’t benefit low-income people and
neighborhoods. People think that most downtown jobs require and “advanced degree”. People (e.g., aldermen) say that
downtown’s booming but the neighborhoods are being left behind.

It’s true that high-paying downtown jobs generally require a college degree. But lots of downtown jobs pay less and
don’t require a college degree. These jobs range from dishwashers, hotel housekeepers and hospital orderlies to
receptionists, accounts payable clerks and junior accountants.

And people with downtown jobs, whether they’re high-paid, low-paid or in between, go home and spend their paychecks
in the neighborhoods where they live. Which supports business and creates more neighborhood jobs. So the best way
to boost impoverished neighborhoods is to help people who live in them get jobs downtown.

The City is moving the Park District headquarters to Brighton Park on the southwest side. As I understand it, this is at
least partly to create jobs in the neighborhood. I don’t know if this is a good decision or not, but how many jobs will be
created? 50? 100? These numbers are insignificant in the overall picture.

As an alternative, what I’d propose is to say that if someone’s unemployed and lives in an impoverished neighborhood
and they get a job downtown, the city will give them a free CTA pass for a year. Pick a couple aldermen who like the idea
and try it as an experiment. Once a month, the person brings his pay stub into the alderman’s office and gets a CTA pass
for the next month.

6. Chicago’s transportation infrastructure is completely inadequate to handle an additional 300,000 people commuting
downtown every day. This should be obvious to anyone who’s on the Kennedy or the Eisenhower during rush hour. Or
takes the Red, Brown or Blue line. But if you need more evidence, click on these links:
article in Forbes dated Feb 11, 2019, which lists the Kennedy and the Eisenhower expressways as the second
and third most congested highways in the country.
CTA’s System-wide Capacity Study, updated in February 2019.
• Sun-Times article dated March 8, 2021, titled “Chicago traffic ranked third worst in the country”.

7. The City needs a long term transportation plan to deal with this. This plan should address:
• How much office space will be needed for 300 thousand new employees over the next 30 years, and where in
the CBD can/should this be built,
• How will all these people get to their jobs and what transit upgrades are needed to accommodate this, and
• How this will be paid for.

Los Angeles plans to spend $80 billion over the next 30 years to upgrade its mass transit system. What they did was draft
a series of plans and then asked the voters to approve tax increases dedicated to funding them. The latest plan was
voted on in November 2016 and approved by 71% of the voters.
Also see LA’s “How to Pass a Mega Transportation Measure”

Last November, the people of Austin Texas voted to raise taxes to pay the city’s share of a $7.1 billion transit plan,
including a subway through downtown.

What Los Angeles and Austin have shown is that people are willing to approve tax increases if they’re dedicated to
paying for specific transportation improvements.

Chicago says it’s a “world class city” but it can’t put together a transit plan that’s half as good as Austin’s. Chicago
struggles to pay for a new Green line station at Damen. This is pathetic.

8. Under the “no little plans” philosophy, what I’d like to see is a 30 year transportation plan to spend $60 billion. I see a
plan as involving the following projects:

Phase 1: Projects that can be completed over the next 10 to 15 years. These are from a very good list that Ardecila
posted a couple months ago.
• Red Line extension to 130th St.
• Congress Branch rebuild.
• Metra railcar replacement.
• CREATE projects. Including the Kinzie flyover.
• Eisenhower rebuild. Central – Mannheim.
• North Lake Shore Drive.

Phase 2: Projects that could be completed in years 5 thru 25.
Two new subways thru the Loop. One, a north-south subway under Canal St that would be built in connection with a
complete rebuild of Union Station. The second, an east-west subway from the United Center to Michigan Ave. I have
more specific ideas re each of these and maybe I’ll put them in another post.

Phase 3: Projects that would not be started until sometime after year 15.

9. Once a plan is approved, the City Department of Planning and Development should be given the task of evaluating and
rating all new development proposals against the plan. This evaluation would encourage large developments near
existing and planned transit lines and discourage or prohibit new office development away from transit. Proposals like
Lincoln Yards should absolutely be prohibited.

All necessary rights-of-way must be preserved to permit build-out over the next 30 years.

10. Paying for this
Assuming the feds pay for half, that leaves $30 billion for the State and City. And I assume the State and City will each pay half of this.

The State’s $15 billion share
Gov Pritzker just announced a $20.7 billion six-year infrastructure plan. He says that this will be paid for with revenue
increases that were approved two years ago (including increases in gas tax and the cost of vehicle registration) plus the
closing of certain tax loopholes. So it seems fair to think that the state can find $15 billion over 30 years for Chicago.

My argument for allocating more of the state’s budget to Chicago is this: Areas of the state that are growing need to
spend more money on infrastructure than areas that aren’t growing. And downtown Chicago is the only large area of the
state that’s growing.

The City’s $15 billion share
For the City’s share, I assume it will need to increase taxes by $500 million per year.

So what the City should do RIGHT NOW is draft a plan that explains how good things will be if voters approve a tax
increase and how bad things will be if they don’t. And then put it on the 2022 ballot. I’d even hire the person who
managed the Measure M ballot initiative in LA.
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