Winnipeg - Of Interest - Page 106

Riverman · #**2101** Posted **Dec 14, 2011, 3:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by rypinion

But wouldn't it make sense to find some alternatives before they've all run out or been effected by some sort of event? Someone's gotta spend some extra money to get these alternatives going. You can argue whose job that is, whether governments, businesses or individuals, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to utilize multiple sources for resources, now or in the future?

Of course, but putting a generator on a mast and mounting a propeller on it is not really an alternative to what we have now. My point is that wind/solar doesn't work with the grid distribution model that we all know and love, because it discourages conservation. A line comes into your house so you can use all the electricity you want as long as you pay for it.

A different home-based energy production and storage model could work with wind and solar providing the juice - in fact technology has advanced quite a ways and it could be possible to power a home this way. Of course we will have to give up some luxuries, and get used to an empty/full gauge for available energy, much like you have in your auto..

vid · #**2102** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 1:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Riverman

That's funny. Do you think oil is only used for turning on lights? Every single industry on the earth is completely dependent on oil. Every tool you touch or use, everything you eat, every building material is all made with oil. Not to mention how all those goods got to you. Electric transport trucks? Electric airliners?

Hitching post my ass. Oil is needed for everything and to not develop our resources would be idiotic.

As it gets more expensive, those industries that depend on it most will suffer. Companies wouldn't be looking for alternatives to it if there wasn't money to be saved or made in doing so.

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Of course, but putting a generator on a mast and mounting a propeller on it is not really an alternative to what we have now. My point is that wind/solar doesn't work with the grid distribution model that we all know and love, because it discourages conservation. A line comes into your house so you can use all the electricity you want as long as you pay for it.

A different home-based energy production and storage model could work with wind and solar providing the juice - in fact technology has advanced quite a ways and it could be possible to power a home this way. Of course we will have to give up some luxuries, and get used to an empty/full gauge for available energy, much like you have in your auto..

I think this would be the best option. Leave the large scale power generation to large scale consumers that lack the space or capacity to generate a sufficient amount of energy on their own. Build or retrofit homes to include the ability to generate their own energy using solar, wind, and other (possibly not yet invented) forms of technology instead, and we'll decrease our dependence on oil, and government energy providers. We don't even have to give up many luxuries, as things are becoming more energy efficient with every year while alternative sources of energy become more efficient.

1ajs · #**2103** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 1:40 AM**

off the grid cabin. solar up on the roof and a tower behind the cabin with a 550wat wind genirator with plans for a 200 watt panel to go in next. wood stove sawna and the good old cbc

vid · #**2104** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 3:00 AM**

You filthy communist.

trueviking · #**2105** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 4:00 AM**

You're going where? Why would you?

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/blogs/t...129-1o43u.html

1ajs · #**2106** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 4:22 AM**

lol but he forgot the exchange lol

trueviking · #**2107** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 4:48 AM**

burmistrov and his dad were out playing shinny with a bunch of kids at river heights community centre on the weekend.....he, bogo and kane live in that condo across from st. mary's on academy...the one that took forever to build.

nice to see him embracing the weather and skating on the outdoor ice.

Only The Lonely.. · #**2108** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 5:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

You're going where? Why would you?

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/blogs/t...129-1o43u.html

"On the surface it sounds just like Perth..but with more going on."

roccerfeller · #**2109** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 5:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

You're going where? Why would you?

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/blogs/t...129-1o43u.html

This is a sweet article

seems to sum up that part of Winnipeg quite nicely

flatlander · #**2110** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 7:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

burmistrov and his dad were out playing shinny with a bunch of kids at river heights community centre on the weekend.....he, bogo and kane live in that condo across from st. mary's on academy...the one that took forever to build.

nice to see him embracing the weather and skating on the outdoor ice.

Used to see numminen, selanne, steen etc down there. Even markus mattson if I recall.

Riverman · #**2111** Posted **Dec 15, 2011, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by vid

Leave the large scale power generation to large scale consumers that lack the space or capacity to generate a sufficient amount of energy on their own.

This is already done and has been for some time. Henry Ford always generated his own electricity. The sprawling GE military industrial complex in Lynn, Mass makes it's own power, or at least it did when I used to visit there. La Guardia airport in New York has its own gen plant too.

vid · #**2112** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 12:45 AM**

I was referring to large scale operations that lack the space, but yes, those are good examples and those corporations offer a model to follow.

Resolute Forest Products in Thunder Bay is working on a plan to be fuelled entirely on the waste it produces from paper production, and our landfill uses biogas to power itself and the surrounding houses.

Corporations that produce a surplus of power could even have the opportunity to sell that energy at a discounted cost, if government regulations were eased. At the risk of greatly contradicting my statements in other threads here, a company like Walmart could cover its property in solar panels and wind turbines and sell the energy for a lower price than its competitors, offering even more to the selfish, whiny and lazy liberal socialists you so detest.

chrisallard5454 · #**2113** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 2:18 PM**

This really pertains to Manitoba but, I have just been shown that Manitoba's French population is not nearly as large as I thought. I have been told numerous times that Manitoba has the second largest Francophone population in Canada. Obviously after being shown StatsCan this is wrong. I was just wondering is there anyone else who thought this also? Or was I the only one naive enough to believe this falsity.

This fact really surprises me. It must be because for the last 8 years my Winnipeg experience has been situated around St. Boniface and St. Vital.

rypinion · #**2114** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 3:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

This really pertains to Manitoba but, I have just been shown that Manitoba's French population is not nearly as large as I thought. I have been told numerous times that Manitoba has the second largest Francophone population in Canada. Obviously after being shown StatsCan this is wrong. I was just wondering is there anyone else who thought this also? Or was I the only one naive enough to believe this falsity.

This fact really surprises me. It must be because for the last 8 years my Winnipeg experience has been situated around St. Boniface and St. Vital.

Do you have a link to these numbers?

drew · #**2115** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 4:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

This really pertains to Manitoba but, I have just been shown that Manitoba's French population is not nearly as large as I thought. I have been told numerous times that Manitoba has the second largest Francophone population in Canada. Obviously after being shown StatsCan this is wrong. I was just wondering is there anyone else who thought this also? Or was I the only one naive enough to believe this falsity.

This fact really surprises me. It must be because for the last 8 years my Winnipeg experience has been situated around St. Boniface and St. Vital.

I think the common understanding was that St. Boniface was the largest francophone majority community west of Quebec. It had nothing to do with provincial populations.

Manitoba has too small a population to compete with actual numbers of francophones in other provinces, especially Ontario.

The province's history with French is interesting though. When it was founded by Riel, IIRC it was officially a bilingual government. This eventually was changed, but MB did start with strong french language roots because of St. Boniface and the Metis.

sledhead35 · #**2116** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riverman

This is already done and has been for some time. Henry Ford always generated his own electricity. The sprawling GE military industrial complex in Lynn, Mass makes it's own power, or at least it did when I used to visit there. La Guardia airport in New York has its own gen plant too.

a few boeing plants are considered zero waste with quite a few (including ours in winnipeg) more striving for that. also starting to produce their own power. not bad for the biggest manufacturer in america with by far the most manufacturing-building-space by volume to electrify.

jmt18325 · #**2117** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

The province's history with French is interesting though. When it was founded by Riel, IIRC it was officially a bilingual government. This eventually was changed, but MB did start with strong french language roots because of St. Boniface and the Metis.

Everything put out by the Government of Manitoba is still bilingual today.

rypinion · #**2118** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 9:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by jmt18325

Everything put out by the Government of Manitoba is still bilingual today.

Yes, but New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Officia...nd_territories

jmt18325 · #**2119** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 10:24 PM**

Yes, but there are bilingual components in the governments of all of the next 4 provinces to the west.

vid · #**2120** Posted **Dec 30, 2011, 11:31 PM**

Ontario has a law requiring any community that is more than 5% or 10% Francophone or something like that to be to be officially bilingual. There are a handful of such communities between Sudbury and Winnipeg. Thunder Bay isn't one of them. Greenstone is, its community of Longlac is trilingual (French, Ojibwe and English). In Thunder Bay, Ojibwe, Italian, Polish and Finnish are all more common than French, but French seems to be gaining ground. French immersion is getting more popular every year.