Regina | New Mosaic Stadium

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by Migs

It's the large bowl around the new stadium. Old one used to have 100,000 capacity.

the old one was a Rose Bowl clone

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Well sure its a brand new stadium, but the old one is still there. The new one was built inside as you can see in this picture.

The old hole is still there... Nothing of the old stadium remains otherwise. So I suppose you can say they saved money in not having to dig another hole, but otherwise, they built a completely new stadium (although they would have had deconstruction costs related to the old stadium). Makes for an interesting picture nonetheless.

[micheal]

I wonder what the drainage is like? it looks like everything would drain to the center in a rain storm

[skthunder77]

PCL it is then...according to CJME

The City of Regina has announced which of three bidders it wants to build a new stadium.

During a special meeting of the city's Executive Committee on Friday, city CFO Brent Sjoberg revealed that a group headed up by PCL Construction has been selected as the "preferred" builder for the $278 million project.

No other significant details were released. The city says the project is still technically in the "procurement" process, which means that specifics can't be released to the public.

[UPP]

Originally Posted by Arts

that is fantastic! I love how none of us caught that tidbit until you pointed it out

I read this story on the CBC this morning, total financing for Rider's stadium is budgeted at $664M over 30 years:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...gina-1.2571901

No surpises there. How much do you think you really pay for a $400,000 home on a 25 year mortgage?

[Treesplease]

Originally Posted by UPP

No surpises there. How much do you think you really pay for a $400,000 home on a 25 year mortgage?

Yeah, really. Throw in financing costs and maintenance and most of us are living in million dollar houses.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Nathan

According to the German Wikipedia it was "kompletter neubau" or completely new/re-built. The old stadium is no longer there at all. Granted it is still almost 15 yrs later, feels more recent though.

Ahhh, you are right. I was looking at the older pic's of the stadium that formed the bowl and figured they added the roof. I didn't notice in the newer pic's that the new stadium was IN the bowl of the old one.

Either way it would be a beautiful stadium if yours resembled the Red Bull facility. I cant wait to see it get underway.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by micheal

I wonder what the drainage is like? it looks like everything would drain to the center in a rain storm

It's right beside a river so it would be fairly straightforward.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by micheal

I wonder what the drainage is like? it looks like everything would drain to the center in a rain storm

Unlike the maroons who designed Sky dome, zee German Civil Engineers would have taken into account that it rains and you have to deal with water!

[Stormer]

HKS designed Apogee Stadium in Texas. It has 31,000 seats and was completed in 2011 for $78 million! I realize our construction costs are way higher, but imagine what we could get for triple that amount.



http://www.hksinc.com/places/univers...pogee-stadium/

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by Stormer

HKS designed Apogee Stadium in Texas. It has 31,000 seats and was completed in 2011 for $78 million! I realize our construction costs are way higher, but imagine what we could get for triple that amount.



http://www.hksinc.com/places/univers...pogee-stadium/

Also notice in the far endzone "Mean Green"

[drew]

^ it doesn't have a roof. May explain the budget. Actually, it would explain the budget - a lot.

In all honesty, you guys need to be looking at what quality level of Stadium Winnipeg ended up with. Take the total Winnipeg construction cost at the year the contract was signed. Add about 5% for annual construction inflation, to get to 2014 dollars.

I don't think the budgets between the two projects are that far off in 2014 dollars. And what ever difference there is, will allow you to get a handle on how much *more* extravagant the Regina stadium will be versus Winnipeg.

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by drew

^ it doesn't have a roof. May explain the budget. Actually, it would explain the budget - a lot.

In all honesty, you guys need to be looking at what quality level of Stadium Winnipeg ended up with. Take the total Winnipeg construction cost at the year the contract was signed. Add about 5% for annual construction inflation, to get to 2014 dollars.

I don't think the budgets between the two projects are that far off in 2014 dollars. And what ever difference there is, will allow you to get a handle on how much *more* extravagant the Regina stadium will be versus Winnipeg.

At that inflation it was $224,910,000 in 2014 dollars. Now we have a budget minus site work of $250,000,000 so little over $25,000,000 more extravagant. $25M is a lot of money, but not really when in this case.

[micheal]

Originally Posted by drew

^ it doesn't have a roof. May explain the budget. Actually, it would explain the budget - a lot.

In all honesty, you guys need to be looking at what quality level of Stadium Winnipeg ended up with. Take the total Winnipeg construction cost at the year the contract was signed. Add about 5% for annual construction inflation, to get to 2014 dollars.

I don't think the budgets between the two projects are that far off in 2014 dollars. And what ever difference there is, will allow you to get a handle on how much *more* extravagant the Regina stadium will be versus Winnipeg.

actually the construction cost index has been holding steady at an annual escalation rate of 2.4%

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy

At that inflation it was $224,910,000 in 2014 dollars. Now we have a budget minus site work of $250,000,000 so little over $25,000,000 more extravagant. $25M is a lot of money, but not really when in this case.

Where did you get that $25 million figure and does not every stadium have site work?

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Where did you get that $25 million figure and does not every stadium have site work?

Yes everyone does, and I read it in today's CBC's article.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy

Yes everyone does, and I read it in today's CBC's article.

The prep you are mentioning better also include digging the hole and everything because $25 mill for what was done would be highway robbery.

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by Nathan

The prep you are mentioning better also include digging the hole and everything because $25 mill for what was done would be highway robbery.

I would certainly hope so as well. The first stuff they have done should be well under $1M

[micheal]

at an annual construction cost index of 2.4%
70 million more would be spent on the Regina stadium.
there's really gonna be no comparison between the two.

[drew]

Originally Posted by micheal

at an annual construction cost index of 2.4%
70 million more would be spent on the Regina stadium.
there's really gonna be no comparison between the two.

Winnipeg's actual cost was $204 million.

In any event the comparison is still there. Climate, seating, roof, location, etc. etc.

There is no need to compare and wonder the budgets of European Stadiums or American NFL/college stadiums when your best comparison (like it or not) is several hundred kilometres down the road.