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Old Posted Feb 22, 2008, 2:32 PM
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this is from last year... not sure how accurate it still is:

Constellation finally ready to get going..

and green..
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By Robyn McGlohn
WAFF 48 News Reporter

A Valley developer hopes to turn his newest project green.

The construction of Constellation is underway, replacing the old Heart of Huntsville Mall, and most of that mall was recycled and either put back into the project or recycled elsewhere.

WAFF 48 Investigator Robyn McGlohn has the story.

Split wood, twisted steel and trash is all that's left of the Heart of Huntsville Mall, but most of it is recycled material.

"This was the slab and it was four to eight inches thick of concrete that would go in the land field, but we got this really big machine out here and we made little ones out of big ones," says Scott McLain.

McLain is the developer for the new Constellation project just off the Parkway.

They worked for months tearing down the old mall.

"We would like to do is make our whole building and our whole project LEED certified."

LEED being Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design.

In other words, they're going green.

There's only a few buildings in Huntsville that are LEED certified, and McLain hopes going green will urge other developers to do the same.

"We all have to be green, we have a limited small planet and we need to be working on making sure preserving our resources and taking care of our energy," says McLain.

And for that reason the asphalt will be re-used to make new roads.

The bushes were replanted at his own farm.

The steel was recycled as well. Even the garbage was put to good use.

"Now, yes we had the buildings, the concrete and the rubber that went into a farmer's hole and he covered it with more dirt and he's feeding cows on it."

It costs more for developers going green. McLain says it's about 10 percent more than the original cost, but he says it's worth it when it comes to the future of the environment.
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Discussion about protecting Big Spring park downtown revealed a few possible projects.
The measure would:

Prohibit any building or structure from being constructed, erected or placed within the boundaries of Big Spring International Park.

Stipulate that the Holiday Inn hotel site (formerly the Hilton) revert to park property if the hotel ceases operation and is demolished. The city bought the hotel property several years ago. Big Spring Partners downtown development group operates it.

Mayor Loretta Spencer said the hotel reversion provision would hamper an interest by Embassy Suites executive John Q. Hammonds to put a new hotel on the Holiday Inn site. She also questioned the impact the ordinance could have on a planned federal building at or near the site of the former mental health center.

Spencer said security setback limits for the federal courthouse could push an accompanying parking deck to the Holiday Inn site.
huntsville leaders need to drop the small-town mentality and realize that this city is about to really take off. it's time to start acting like it! i think everyone realizes how precious big spring park is, but some of those provisions listed above are ridiculous. and, as someone pointed out, the park has actually grown over the years. huntsville is never going to attract young people if it doesn't start thinking bigger.
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huntsville leaders need to drop the small-town mentality and realize that this city is about to really take off. it's time to start acting like it! i think everyone realizes how precious big spring park is, but some of those provisions listed above are ridiculous. and, as someone pointed out, the park has actually grown over the years. huntsville is never going to attract young people if it doesn't start thinking bigger.
Yes I don't understand the reverting the holiday inn to park property part especially if a developer wants to build another hotel. Green space is great to have in a downtown area but there has to more than just that, if thats the only thing you have to offer its pointless, because you can always get a much better nature/green experience out in the country as opposed to downtown.
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The vacancy rate in Huntsville's office and industrial markets last year was healthy, with office vacancies remaining below 8 percent for the third year in a row. The industrial market was even tighter, with the vacancy rate at just over 5 percent.

And a new survey of Huntsville's commercial real estate conditions shows that as office and industrial space fills up, new projects in both markets continue to come online.

"The Huntsville office market remained at a healthy level in 2007 with an overall vacancy rate of 7.36 percent, which is well below the national average of 12.5 percent," said Bart Smith, managing broker with Graham & Co. in Huntsville. The Birmingham-based company publishes a report each year tracking the local office, industrial and retail markets.



"This low vacancy rate is especially impressive when you factor in the 1 million square feet-plus of office space that was constructed and occupied" in Cummings Research Park, Smith said.

Such vacancy rates signal a strong economy and smart development, said Brian Hilson, president and CEO of the Huntsville/Madison County Chamber of Commerce.

"We haven't gotten ahead of ourselves" and overbuilt, Hilson said.

When companies such as Northrop Grumman build a new facility or campus to consolidate operations that were spread across several locations, "it reintroduces leasable office space in the market," Hilson said. That, in turn, "gives us product for other companies."

Although the office vacancy rate isn't the lowest that Kyle Collins has seen in his 21 years in the business, "it's pretty close," he said.

"The market here is very strong," said Collins, senior vice president of Colonial Properties Trust in Huntsville, whose properties here include nine office buildings. "Occupancy rates are in the low to mid-90s, which is excellent."

He attributes the strong office market to the healthy economy here, with a balance of private- and public-sector work, "the good quality of life and strong intellectual capital."

Another factor in the area's low office vacancy rate, particularly at the research park, Smith said, are zoning regulations for Cummings Research Park West that restrict developers from building speculative office space.

Among projects mentioned in the Graham study that should ease tightness in the market include the 133,000-square-foot Offices at Bridge Street off Old Madison Pike, which is expected to be completed later this year; and a development, including an office park, planned by Montgomery-based Jim Wilson & Associates on 422 acres of Redstone Arsenal property near Interstate 565 and Rideout Road.

The report noted that the scarcity of excess land in Huntsville's central business district helped spur the redevelopment of several buildings, including the former SCI headquarters - renovated by Breland Cos. and reopened as Commerce Center for several tenants.

Huntsville's industrial vacancy rate for 2007 was 5.12 percent, well below the U.S. average of 10.2 percent, Smith said.

New construction of industrial space last year was less than 1 million square feet, according to Graham, most of which was absorbed.

"There is over 500,000 square feet of industrial space planned for 2008," Smith noted, adding that the low vacancy rate usually means that buildings will lease quickly.

Much of that new development is at the Jetplex Industrial Park at Huntsville International Airport.

Industrial Properties of the South is developing two, 42,000-square-foot buildings there. That company - owned by Charlene B. Graham and her husband, Dr. Jerry M. Graham - operates more than 1.3 million square feet of industrial and office space in all.

"We're now running 95 percent occupied," Charlene Graham said. The company's occupancy rates haven't always been that strong, though, she said. "We're seeing a positive impact from BRAC."

The Graham report also showed that the retail market increased last year by more than 600,000 square feet - dominated by the opening of Bridge Street Town Centre in Cummings Research Park.

Three shopping centers of more than 270,000 square feet total are slated to open this year: Village Shops of Madison on County Line Road and Harvest Square on Alabama 53, both anchored by Publix grocery stores; and Prominence Shops on U.S. 72 West, anchored by TJ Maxx.

However, the tight commercial market does have a downside, Smith said.

The low vacancy rate in the office market - along with increasing construction costs - drive rental rates higher, with some lease rates now topping $20 per square foot.

"The low vacancy rate makes it a landlord's market," he said, "and sometimes makes it difficult for tenants to find space."

By MARIAN ACCARDI
Times Business Writer marian.accardi@htimes.com
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TJ Maxx will relocate it's Madison Plaza store on Old Madison Pike further west, to the new previously announced Heritage Square shopping center.
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TJ Maxx will relocate it's Madison Plaza store on Old Madison Pike further west, to the new previously announced Heritage Square shopping center.
It's actually on Highway 72 at Lawson Ridge Road.
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Yes I don't understand the reverting the holiday inn to park property part especially if a developer wants to build another hotel. Green space is great to have in a downtown area but there has to more than just that, if thats the only thing you have to offer its pointless, because you can always get a much better nature/green experience out in the country as opposed to downtown.
i also think that sounds ridiculous. especially if they just demolish the hotel and let grass grow there. but it could be cool if they build an amphitheater or cool fountains or something like that in that space. however, i think it would be much smarter for the city to sell that land and make some money off of it to finance other things.
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New building in Hampton Cove

Anyone know what is going up next to the new Superior Bank in Hampton Cove? Looks like it might be a free-standing restaurant or something...
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Mellow Mushroom ? Word is floating around that they will set up shop
at Providence. Probably in the new building going up.
They will open in August at Providence
who new it would take so long?

By GINA HANNAH
Times Business Writer gina.hannah@htimes.com
Franchise owners say pizza eatery to open this summer

After nearly six years of searching, Mellow Mushroom has found a home in Huntsville.

The hip pizza eatery will open its first Huntsville restaurant at Village of Providence this summer, said Diane Holman, who with her husband, Mark, owns the Mellow Mushroom franchise for the Providence location.

"Melissa McFarlin, spokeswoman for Atlanta-based Home-Grown Industries of Georgia, Mellow Mushroom's parent company, said the company has been trying to locate a restaurant in the Huntsville area for about six years, but struggled to find "the right franchisee."

"We're very excited to finally be getting to Huntsville," she said."
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Seems a compromise of sorts, this will limit height in the central historic downtown core but will allow tall buildings outside of this. Shame on everyone
involved for not showing a detailed map of the area in question.

By JOHN PECK
Times Staff Writer john.peck@htimes.com
Planners may raise height limits in downtown borders

The Huntsville Planning Commission isn't budging from a 10-story, 150-foot height limit for downtown buildings.

But it's amenable to increasing two- and three-story limits to as high as six in some buffer areas around downtown historic neighborhoods.


The commission revisited the issue Tuesday night in zoning ordinance amendments covering downtown building heights. The commission voted to review the amendments next month but retain the 10-story building cap.

"That's the way we're headed. In order to protect the integrity of the downtown historic district, we have to have height limitations and we feel like 10 stories should be it," Planning Chairman Crawford Howard said after the meeting.

Planners now have a proposal setting two-, three- and four-story limits in many areas, depending on proximity to neighborhoods. A six-story limit is proposed for a historic area bordered roughly by Madison, Williams, Manning and Lowe.

Howard said the new proposal seems to be a compromise that most residents and developers can live with. Howard said a chief concern of lifting the height limits is the vacant buildings that could result if tenants flocked to the taller buildings.

"My philosophy is there's property surrounding downtown away from the historic districts that could take the 20-plus story buildings and still be accessible to the downtown within walking distance," he said.

No kidding, lack of vision is what I see.
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Per the Westin Huntsville website

Now accepting reservations for arrival on or after April 19, 2008.

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin...ropertyID=1560
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Planners may raise height limits in downtown borders

The Huntsville Planning Commission isn't budging from a 10-story, 150-foot height limit for downtown buildings.

But it's amenable to increasing two- and three-story limits to as high as six in some buffer areas around downtown historic neighborhoods.


The commission revisited the issue Tuesday night in zoning ordinance amendments covering downtown building heights. The commission voted to review the amendments next month but retain the 10-story building cap.

"That's the way we're headed. In order to protect the integrity of the downtown historic district, we have to have height limitations and we feel like 10 stories should be it," Planning Chairman Crawford Howard said after the meeting.

Planners now have a proposal setting two-, three- and four-story limits in many areas, depending on proximity to neighborhoods. A six-story limit is proposed for a historic area bordered roughly by Madison, Williams, Manning and Lowe.

Howard said the new proposal seems to be a compromise that most residents and developers can live with. Howard said a chief concern of lifting the height limits is the vacant buildings that could result if tenants flocked to the taller buildings.

"My philosophy is there's property surrounding downtown away from the historic districts that could take the 20-plus story buildings and still be accessible to the downtown within walking distance," he said.

No kidding, lack of vision is what I see.
The more I hear of crap like this, the more I really hate living here. If I had the money I would blow this fucking depressing area. I'm tired of the narrow minded bible thumping hypocrits that run the city, Huntsville would have a lot to offer under the right leadership. Unfortunately, the leadership is nowhere near acceptable anymore. The infastructure is about 20 years behind the times and the 10 story cap over downtown is fucking retarded. This is a great place if you're 40+ with a wife/kids and want a mcmansion in some subdivision...but if you're 20 something and single, this place blows harder than Jenna Jameson sucking a dick.

Oh, and if I wanted to live in a hicktown with a historic low-rise downtown I'd move to Pulaski, TN or Athens, AL to name a few. For crying out loud, Anniston has a nicer downtown than Huntsville and the city population is only 23,799 and 112,141 in metro. Sad...
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I went to high school in Huntsville and my parents and brother still live in the area. My boyfriend manages the road tour of the Broadway show "I love you you're perfect, now change" which just had a stop in huntsville for a week at Merrimack Hall. He told me exactly what i expected to hear about his thoughts of Huntsville: the people are nice, the theatre is beautiful, the only gay bar they could find in town was scary and the city really needs to do something about its downtown.
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Once again tunnel vision is clouding peoples opinion. Best I can tell they are talking about the historic CBD. This limit should not effect the rest of downtown which includes the Medical District to Governors Dr, and areas north
to Pratt. Now it should not include areas around the VBC and that may be
the ammended areas that are mentioned. In any case a poor job of trying
to present what they are talking about , and the only thing done is create negative feedback and discouraged any possible projects due to the confusion.
Some of these folks in position need to get out more often and see what is happening in other places.
And this comment from the article;
"Howard said a chief concern of lifting the height limits is the vacant buildings that could result if tenants flocked to the taller buildings."

Is pure dumbass stupidity, good they will just move to a location out in the
suburbs. If there is demand to move then let that demand be filled. Hotels, Condos, etc won't cause anyone to leave their location, cause that would be new jobs moving in dumbass.
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Seriously, someone should write a letter to the city council/mayor and let them know that this height limit seems shortsighted, especially considering the city's attempts to woo young professionals. Young people are attracted to places with vibrant downtowns, and part of the perception of a vibrant downtown is tall buildings. It may sound silly, but it's true. Plus, we already know that there have been recent proposals for 20+ story buildings. I think a well-thought out diagram of the downtown showing locations for tall buildings (which don't abut a neighborhood) might convince some of (y)our leaders to ease up on this.
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For crying out loud, Anniston has a nicer downtown than Huntsville
I know we're all frustrated right now, but please tell me you don't believe this.
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I know we're all frustrated right now, but please tell me you don't believe this.
For it's size, i do believe it...for a city of 23k it has quite a few mid & high rises downtown, a lot of green space, i love how as Highway 431 runs through downtown it's lined with parks/trees and statues/memorials...but i'm trying to compare Huntsville's lagging downtown growth to smaller Alabama cities with a nice urban core...

If i were to broaden the scope a bit, I really love Chattanooga's downtown and I was under the impression Huntsville was looking to model their downtown growth after Chattanooga's.

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I know we're all frustrated right now, but please tell me you don't believe this.
I certainly believe it, at least for a city its size.

Anniston and Huntsville were once the same size. Gadsden was once the fourth largest city in the state.
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My mom works in Nortrop Grumman and she loves the new building but my question is if the city oh Huntsville has this much money to build new malls new buildings and things why don't they have to money to finish buliding the Parkway or make new ways for not such congested roads??
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