Philadelphia Transportation Thread - Page 103

Nexis4Jersey · #**2041** Posted **Apr 11, 2024, 11:07 AM**

I would send it to the 40th street Portal then up to Lancaster Ave and then onto the Bala Branch. I think a separate Trolley should branch off the 10 and service the Zoo / Fairmount Park.

thoughtcriminal · #**2042** Posted **Apr 11, 2024, 8:36 PM**

What should really happen is that PATCO should terminate at 8th and Market. Then riders could transfer to SEPTA from there. SEPTA could take back the Locust Street Line, and extend it into West Philly, terminating at the Penn Medicine Station, 40th Street portal, or the Airport - some intermodal hub, and not just a random end station the way PATCO terminates now.
It makes sense to have a station at Rittenhouse Square, but it would be odd for that to be a PATCO station instead of SEPTA. Rittenhouse Sq should be accessible primarily to people of Philadelphia, not just people coming in from NJ. Nothing against people from NJ

Delthayre · #**2043** Posted **Apr 12, 2024, 1:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by thoughtcriminal

What should really happen is that PATCO should terminate at 8th and Market. Then riders could transfer to SEPTA from there. SEPTA could take back the Locust Street Line, and extend it into West Philly, terminating at the Penn Medicine Station, 40th Street portal, or the Airport - some intermodal hub, and not just a random end station the way PATCO terminates now.
It makes sense to have a station at Rittenhouse Square, but it would be odd for that to be a PATCO station instead of SEPTA. Rittenhouse Sq should be accessible primarily to people of Philadelphia, not just people coming in from NJ. Nothing against people from NJ

That resembles the original intention of the 8th-Locust Subway, which was built pursuant to the 1923 authorized plan as an extension of the Broad-Ridge Spur and meant to continue westward across the river and eventually rise to an elevated line over Woodland Avenue to the city line.

Mr Saturn64 · #**2044** Posted **Apr 13, 2024, 3:19 AM**

SEPTA cancels $185 million Chinese contract for double-decker Regional Rail cars

https://www.inquirer.com/transportat...-20240412.html

Well, shit.

Busy Bee · #**2045** Posted **Apr 13, 2024, 5:11 AM**

I personally think CRRC should be banned from the US market.

Skintreesnail · #**2046** Posted **Apr 13, 2024, 7:12 PM**

Yeah the way the bidding process works for this stuff seems crazy to me. Personally i feel like they should focus on making regional rail into more of a metro/s bahn system, and trolley modernization. That and just making the el and bsl safer and more efficient. The blvd subway would be great if that becomes a thing.

aprice1828 · #**2047** Posted **Apr 15, 2024, 6:50 PM**

Drexel Station at 30th Street Welcomes SEPTA Customers https://wwww.septa.org/news/drexel-s...pta-customers/

I believe this means the new entrance at the NW corner of 31st & Market is open to the public. This press release doesn't make it very clear and I haven't been able to run over and check it out in person yet.

Londonee · #**2048** Posted **May 16, 2024, 1:14 PM**

Anyone have any inside info/knowledge on the status of the new AA Flagship Lounge construction at the old A West lounge PHL? Is it underway, have permits been pulled? It’s a tightly guarded mystery…

bdurk · #**2049** Posted **May 30, 2024, 5:51 PM**

Does anyone know anything about when the Route 15 PCCs are coming back? I saw they were testing them recently.

EastSideHBG · #**2050** Posted **Jun 5, 2024, 6:55 PM**

SEPTA to end free parking at Regional Rail stations sometime after July 1st
https://morethanthecurve.com/septa-t...fter-july-1st/

bdurk · #**2051** Posted **Jun 12, 2024, 3:33 PM**

The PCCs are back on Girard starting this Sunday!!! My wish has been granted.

https://www.inquirer.com/transportat...-20240611.html

https://www.inquirer.com/transportat...-20230906.html

Busy Bee · #**2052** Posted **Jun 12, 2024, 3:51 PM**

I know this is a minor gripe, but with better more compact hvac tech I wish they could have gotten those massive tumors off the roof. I think we all know that's not what a streamlined PCC should look like. Regardless I'm happy to have them running again.

thoughtcriminal · #**2053** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 8:10 PM**

from phillymag, new trolley designs.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2024/...Nrzk5blF5k5uJg

Busy Bee · #**2054** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 9:20 PM**

Did they tweak something? Those look like the designs they released a year ago.

These should look great nonetheless if they can avoid being dumbed down and clunkyfied American style.

thoughtcriminal · #**2055** Posted **Jun 22, 2024, 12:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Did they tweak something? Those look like the designs they released a year ago.

These should look great nonetheless if they can avoid being dumbed down and clunkyfied American style.

what is a "dumbed down" trolley?

Busy Bee · #**2056** Posted **Jun 22, 2024, 1:45 PM**

I'm referring to the industrial design of rolling stock and the unfortunate tendency for sexy and envelope-pushing designs being bestowed to Europe and Asia while less inspiring utilitarian vehicles, in many cases driven by federal regulations, being the common precedent and choice of American transit agencies. This is getting better with time and I'm thrilled Septa has given the new LRV design the attention it deserves. These should easily be the best looking streetcars in the country.

William Van Alen · #**2057** Posted **Jul 3, 2024, 3:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

I'm referring to the industrial design of rolling stock and the unfortunate tendency for sexy and envelope-pushing designs being bestowed to Europe and Asia while less inspiring utilitarian vehicles, in many cases driven by federal regulations, being the common precedent and choice of American transit agencies. This is getting better with time and I'm thrilled Septa has given the new LRV design the attention it deserves. These should easily be the best looking streetcars in the country.

Can't think of a better example of this than the PCC interiors on the 15/G. I get that the emphasis was on the outside and keeping this a low cost project as we await the new Alstoms, but the interiors are a total swing and a miss design-wise.

TempleGuy1000 · #**2058** Posted **Jul 9, 2024, 11:39 AM**

Some updates:
Crime down 37 percent on SEPTA systems during first half of 2024 - Mass Transit

A picture of the outside of the new Franklin Square station headhouse. Looks good.

Renderings for the revamped Chinatown Station have been released recently

bdurk · #**2059** Posted **Jul 16, 2024, 3:32 PM**

Supposedly Hitachi have been selected for the new M5 cars for the Market Frankford Line. I'm looking forward to seeing some renders, I'm assuming they will be the 8000 series.

Delthayre · #**2060** Posted **Jul 16, 2024, 4:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by bdurk

Supposedly Hitachi have been selected for the new M5 cars for the Market Frankford Line. I'm looking forward to seeing some renders, I'm assuming they will be the 8000 series.

A contract award of $ 724,309,956 to Hitachi Raiil USA for 200 M5 railcars appears on page 11 of the agenda for the July 25, 2024 meeting of the SEPTA Board. The pilot car is to be delivered in fall of 2028 and the regular fleet to be delivered from spring 2029 through spring 2031. There are additionally options of $ 61,532,820 for 20 further railcars and $ 1,020,746 for optional track monitoring equipment.