Burrard Place | 168m, 112m, 56m | 54fl, 36fl, 13fl | 938,000 sqft | U/C - Page 102

jollyburger · #**2021** Posted **Jun 24, 2021, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by bb1510

Don't know if it was posted before but apparently, they messed up with the concrete on the exposed grid facade; apparently, it was supposed to be decorative grade concrete to be left raw similar to 432 Park Ave in New York but it's not happening anymore.

They're going to paint on top of it apparently and the folks at Reliance aren't happy

Here's the mention about the concrete mixup.

I assume the decorative grade concrete was white Portland cement. PDF on the 432 Park Avenue concrete.

https://www.lehighhanson.com/docs/de...rsn=9df4cb4b_0

rofina · #**2022** Posted **Jun 24, 2021, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Someone posted earlier that they used the wrong type of concrete, so it needed to be painted (though I don't know if sealing would have worked).

Limestone gray would have been nice.

Would still love to know how that actually happened.

You don't just "mess up the concrete." A lot of people gave a lot of ok's for this to get this far.

I suppose we will never know.

jollyburger · #**2023** Posted **Jun 24, 2021, 8:48 PM**

I don't know but doesn't the first few levels of concrete on the spine actually look okay? It's like fine for three floors above the podium level and then it changes colour? In this photo there is some rain but even in a photo from this year it seems like a pretty noticeable difference.

fullsizeoutput_8b17 by mcminsen, on Flickr

Credit: mcminsen

officedweller · #**2024** Posted **Jun 24, 2021, 9:28 PM**

I remember when the first columns were revealed, they looked great.

jollyburger · #**2025** Posted **Jun 24, 2021, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

I remember when the first columns were revealed, they looked great.

Our Quorum team at Burrard Place in downtown Vancouver has begun forming the white concrete vertical walls on level 1 with fantastic results.
https://twitter.com/TheQuorumGroup

And at DP it was also a "white concrete grid"

Zepfancouver · #**2026** Posted **Jun 25, 2021, 12:23 AM**

"begun forming the white concrete vertical walls on level 1 with fantastic results"
Maybe it didn't age or cure well enough (at the extra cost) for the engineer and architect and the idea was scrapped.

bb1510 · #**2027** Posted **Jun 25, 2021, 5:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by rofina

Would still love to know how that actually happened.

You don't just "mess up the concrete." A lot of people gave a lot of ok's for this to get this far.

I suppose we will never know.

Not sure what exactly happened but it wasn't cost engineered for sure as from what I heard, both the developer and architect sides were not happy

Similar to the exposed concrete in Vancouver House, from what I recall, the lobby walls were poured extremely roughly and had to be sanded down; they were supposed to look like the concrete in Tadao Ando's projects. However, it's Westbank so I wouldn't be surprised if it was cost engineered

bb1510 · #**2028** Posted **Jun 25, 2021, 5:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Our Quorum team at Burrard Place in downtown Vancouver has begun forming the white concrete vertical walls on level 1 with fantastic results.
https://twitter.com/TheQuorumGroup

And at DP it was also a "white concrete grid"

Haven't been down in DT lately but for those who have, are the painted surfaces similar or anywhere close to that example in the pic?

jollyburger · #**2029** Posted **Jun 25, 2021, 5:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by bb1510

Haven't been down in DT lately but for those who have, are the painted surfaces similar or anywhere close to that example in the pic?

From the photos in my opinion it just looks like white paint on concrete and has none of that powdery chalk finish in the white concrete. I guess when they start painting the bottom three levels you can see if there's any difference.

Credit: Zepfancouver

mcminsen · #**2030** Posted **Jul 6, 2021, 3:47 AM**

July 5 '21, my pics

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officedweller · #**2031** Posted **Jul 7, 2021, 2:37 AM**

By me today:

Nothing to suggest a light feature up the spine.

The marble around the entry seems a bit random / poorly matched.

officedweller · #**2032** Posted **Jul 7, 2021, 3:14 AM**

Tower 2 units selling well:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/two-...reet-vancouver

Klazu · #**2033** Posted **Jul 7, 2021, 5:55 AM**

It sure looks like all the design effort went in the south facade with west facade being the worst. I hadn't noticed those alcove balconies before, which are adding to the mess that is the west facade. That's too bad as that side won't be covered by any other building whereas the north and east facade will be.

Zepfancouver · #**2034** Posted **Jul 7, 2021, 9:12 PM**

No, "nothing to suggest". My expectation for LED's are quickly fading. It would now be a pleasant surprise to see it happen, still hoping.
Took a look at The Office entrance this morning, no progress yet.

officedweller · #**2035** Posted **Jul 7, 2021, 10:21 PM**

As I walked back to the office along Howe St., I noticed how much nicer the carrera marble at 980 Howe was. Larger panels and subtler veining.
The Charleson also has nicer marble (which has large book-matched panels).

https://cityhallwatch.wordpress.com/...ouver-skyline/

city guy · #**2036** Posted **Jul 7, 2021, 10:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

It sure looks like all the design effort went in the south facade with west facade being the worst. I hadn't noticed those alcove balconies before, which are adding to the mess that is the west facade. That's too bad as that side won't be covered by any other building whereas the north and east facade will be.

I agree with Klazu on this and I want to add that I think much of the building is a mess...the architects should be put on a high dose of Ritalin for throwing so many ideas and patterns at one building

the entry area to the condo is an embarrassing array of unresolved geometries and materials...

Zepfancouver · #**2037** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 5:09 AM**

A posting from Reddit has an image of the Penthouse Night Club marquee, in the background of the image shows us the BMU out from its enclosure (Other side)

Yes, those marble panels should have been numbered for placement for a more appealing look. They did a great job at The Charleson.

officedweller · #**2038** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 5:19 AM**

That's one thing they got right - a BMU that can be hidden

officedweller · #**2039** Posted **Jul 8, 2021, 6:21 PM**

Pic by me today. (Hopefully it can be hidden!)

urbanight93 · #**2040** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 3:05 PM**

Not to beat a dead horse but man is this tower an incoherent, overwrought mess. Too many ideas shoved together with no clear concept to tie them together. If ever there was a vision, it was the white concrete lattice / honeycomb effect which was eventually bungled and diluted. The one saving grace is the office tower (thank you Bing Thom!). At least, the materials are fine overall (compared to the cheapening seen at buildings like the Mark etc...) but the bar is low.