New Vancouver Art Gallery | 9fl | Proposed

[Migrant_Coconut]

Regardless of massing, I think most of us are glad they ditched the wood. The lines duck up the silhouette anyway.

[LeftCoaster]

I don't know how copper doesn't speak to the west coast when mining is a big part of the history of this province and one of the largest copper mines in the world in its day was just a short drive up the coast in Britania.

We're more than just lumber and fish.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I don't know how copper doesn't speak to the west coast when mining is a big part of the history of this province and one of the largest copper mines in the world in its day was just a short drive up the coast in Britania.

We're more than just lumber and fish.

Not to mention the present day large copper mines of Highland Valley (largest in Canada), Copper Mountain, and Gibraltar.

We're on the pacific rim, copper porphyry is everywhere here. You'd probably find some underneath Vancouver itself if you truly went looking.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I don't know how copper doesn't speak to the west coast when mining is a big part of the history of this province and one of the largest copper mines in the world in its day was just a short drive up the coast in Britania.

We're more than just lumber and fish.

do you really need to ask that at this point? i think some of us can figure out why.

[Vin]

Does this copper rust to turn green like medieval/renaissance buildings?

An example of such an oxidation is the roof of Hotel Vancouver.

Hope this is some alloy that has the colour of copper, and not copper itself.

[jollyburger]

It's copper coloured metal.

[madog222]

Yeah, the budget would need to be a wee bit higher if they were using actual copper.

[officedweller]

It would appear that the Safeway at Granville & 70th has a perforated basketweave on its facade:


https://www.livabl.com/vancouver-bc/...th#image-All-1

[jollyburger]

Seems like they designed it to be a green wall with openings into the parkade? It's now covered by vines in the alleyway behind the building and the trees have grown a lot.

8481 Saskatchewan Lane

[Changing City]

The piling rig has been packed up, having finished the row of piles along Beatty. No sign of excavation yet, but that would be a different subcontractor.

[jollyburger]

The excavation permits are still being reviewed.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=188774380

March 2024

Ledcor is the general on the project. The first step is to demolish an existing structure and parking garage and then remediate the site. Over the first few months of work, construction crews will be digging down a level to remove contaminated soil and a retaining wall.

The above-ground work will involve cranes and heavy equipment and will likely start in spring of 2025.

“Construction is supposed to be 48 months from March 5 and then probably a six-month moving process,” says Kiendl. “We’re currently looking at the fall of 2028.”

https://canada.constructconnect.com/...ing-techniques

[jollyburger]

Still nothing. Site is cleared to the Beatty street elevation.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Still nothing. Site is cleared to the Beatty street elevation.

Uh-oh. This explains the lack of action:

Project to build new Vancouver Art Gallery hit by 50% cost increase to $600 million
Kenneth Chan
Aug 29 2024, 1:39 pm

Over much of the past summer, there has been relatively little construction activity at the site of the future new Vancouver Art Gallery (VAG), which first began major construction work in March 2024 with the demolition of the underground structure of the site’s surface vehicle parking lot.

And now there is a reason why construction has seemingly stalled.

In a bulletin this afternoon, the Vancouver Art Gallery announced that the costs for building the project has now increased by a further 50% from $400 million — which was still the official cost figure at the time of the September 2023 groundbreaking ceremony with dignitaries — to $600 million. It is stated that the cost went up to this figure over the last two years....

Due to the financial challenges of this increased budget, the VAG is now going back to the drawing board in an apparent attempt to conduct a new wave of value engineering work on the design to reduce its costs.

Furthermore, the new building will not be completed or opened by 2028. This likely means the VAG will remain at its current location within the heritage courthouse building next to Robson Square for at least a little longer...

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...rease-redesign

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Uh-oh. This explains the lack of action:

Project to build new Vancouver Art Gallery hit by 50% cost increase to $600 million
Kenneth Chan
Aug 29 2024, 1:39 pm

Over much of the past summer, there has been relatively little construction activity at the site of the future new Vancouver Art Gallery (VAG), which first began major construction work in March 2024 with the demolition of the underground structure of the site’s surface vehicle parking lot.

And now there is a reason why construction has seemingly stalled.

In a bulletin this afternoon, the Vancouver Art Gallery announced that the costs for building the project has now increased by a further 50% from $400 million — which was still the official cost figure at the time of the September 2023 groundbreaking ceremony with dignitaries — to $600 million. It is stated that the cost went up to this figure over the last two years....

Due to the financial challenges of this increased budget, the VAG is now going back to the drawing board in an apparent attempt to conduct a new wave of value engineering work on the design to reduce its costs.

Furthermore, the new building will not be completed or opened by 2028. This likely means the VAG will remain at its current location within the heritage courthouse building next to Robson Square for at least a little longer...

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vanc...rease-redesign

I wonder what they can value engineer out of it without totally ruining the design.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I wonder what they can value engineer out of it without totally ruining the design.

Yes, I hope they don’t totally debase it.

[idunno]

Damn! This construction/materials cost escalation and inflation crisis is really hitting every large scale project.

[osirisboy]

Inflation is around 3%. Not 50%

I’d rather them shelve and do it right and not get some watered down version

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

Inflation is around 3%. Not 50%

I’d rather them shelve and do it right and not get some watered down version

We've seen mechanical overall go up 15% since last year.

[madog222]

Quite disappointing news, I had taken a picture of the site this morning before reading this.


20240829_133428 by madog222, on Flickr

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

We've seen mechanical overall go up 15% since last year.

And what reasons are given? Labour? Materials?