2022 Municipal Election

[Innsertnamehere]

Threatening tolls on the Linc and RHVP would also be political suicide in this city lol. It's barely feasible politically in Toronto, where like half of voters don't even drive. Hamilton would lose it if it was proposed here.

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Threatening tolls on the Linc and RHVP would also be political suicide in this city lol. It's barely feasible politically in Toronto, where like half of voters don't even drive. Hamilton would lose it if it was proposed here.

They could just toll non-residents of Hamilton and that would hit both birds with one stone. Not piss off Hamiltonians and still get the attention of Ontario. Nobody in Oakville is going to show up to destroy JP Danko because of tolls on outside residents and Janet isn't going to vote for John Smith instead of JP because of tolls that don't affect her. Problem solved.

Man, I should be a politician.

[SteelTown]

Cameras have been set up to collect data from out-of-town people using the Linc and Red Hill since 2017. But that's it; they are just collecting data.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...ucks-1.4173240

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by SteelTown

Cameras have been set up to collect data from out-of-town people using the Linc and Red Hill since 2017. But that's it; they are just collecting data.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...ucks-1.4173240

Trucks, unless the monitoring was expanded. And rightly so for the city to look into that, because large trucks cause the most damage to roads.

Did this actually get implemented? (the article notes a ratification vote was to follow) And if so, were any results or trends ever made public? That is the kind of info the city would want to take to the provincial government as evidence that uploading is warranted, or at least to ask for a bunch of financial help.

[LikeHamilton]

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

They could just toll non-residents of Hamilton and that would hit both birds with one stone. Not piss off Hamiltonians and still get the attention of Ontario. Nobody in Oakville is going to show up to destroy JP Danko because of tolls on outside residents and Janet isn't going to vote for John Smith instead of JP because of tolls that don't affect her. Problem solved.

Man, I should be a politician.

If you travel the Link and Red Hill a lot from out of town, there are ways around making your vehicle look like its from Hamilton.

[ScreamingViking]

It's all a moot point. The provincial government would put the kibosh on any kind of tolling.

Remember that Toronto's proposal to toll the DVP and Gardiner was quashed by the Wynne Liberals. The PCs have even less appetite for the idea.

Personally, I think something will have to be done in future as electrics become a larger proportion of the privately-owned vehicle fleet in Ontario and fuel tax revenues wane; perhaps a charge based on km-driven. At that point, maybe the charges can be varied by place (e.g., want to drive in central Toronto? it will cost more per km) or route.

[drpgq]

Maybe the city could convince the Ontario NDP to put uploading these highways in their program. Maybe the Liberals too.