Highway 91 / 72nd Ave. Interchange | Completed

[Metro-One]

Don't understand the overpriced part, the cost fit really well for what we got.

Yes, that bump is an annoyance and should be removed, but as I said before, with these projects moving forward this bump and the 80th street intersection are all that will remain from the portion west of the Patullo from being an adequate highway / freeway. (the section from west of 80th street to Tsawassenn is actually nicely leveled).

The section between the Patullo east to 116th street is the dogs breakfast that needs a major upgrade. And the very eastern end of the road with the GEW connector intersection.

[libtard]

No, its an overpriced turd with terribly low design speed, improperly leveled surfaces, bad interchange designs, and a freaking bike lane on the shoulder... on a "highway". What a joke

[CanSpice]

I remember reading somewhere (here maybe?) that the bump is caused by a water or sewer main running under the highway there, and the preloading that the province had done on either side to compact the highway didn't do a good enough job, so the highway is subsiding on either side of the conduit, making the bump larger over time.

That's all bog land around there and it's going to subside no matter what. It's going to have to be fixed at one point or another.

And that said, if you're catching air going over that bump you're going way too fast for the conditions. The speed limit is 80kph and you should probably do it there. If you do you won't catch air.

[makr3trkr]

While this project is a net positive, the logic behind removing four existing intersections while spending years disrupting traffic and then adding a new light where there wasn't one before on Nordel escapes me.

[flipper316]

Originally Posted by makr3trkr

While this project is a net positive, the logic behind removing four existing intersections while spending years disrupting traffic and then adding a new light where there wasn't one before on Nordel escapes me.

They're only removing 2 intersections. 17 and the 91 Connector/River Road intersection and the 91 Connector/Nordel Way intersection.

[makr3trkr]

Originally Posted by flipper316

They're only removing 2 intersections. 17 and the 91 Connector/River Road intersection and the 91 Connector/Nordel Way intersection.

They are also removing the new lights that were installed at the bottom of Nordel hill and I was also including the intersection at 72nd

[flipper316]

World's slowest interchange project? Today I drove by to check it out. Was shocked there isn't oven pavement down in the surfaces yet. Still just gravel. It's not even a complicated big interchange.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by flipper316

World's slowest interchange project? Today I drove by to check it out. Was shocked there isn't oven pavement down in the surfaces yet. Still just gravel. It's not even a complicated big interchange.

This is standard build speed in the US. Takes longer to build but it’s done to higher standards. Not just the interchange but the whole area is prone to sinking. As long as it’s done right the first time, longer build times don’t bother me. BC has a serious problem with levelling the surfaces of their highways properly. The same old piss poor excuse is used “we had to construct the road in challenging terrain” but it all comes down to value engineering. When this project is done and the other corresponding interchanges in the area are complete there better not be a single bump or dip in the road. The earth filled approach ramps on either sides of the overpasses LEVEL THEM PROPERLY. Please for the love of god learn from your mistakes with the current SFPR

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

this is a bog. you can do all the levelling you want going above and beyond, it can still sink.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

this is a bog. you can do all the levelling you want going above and beyond, it can still sink.

Piss poor value engineering excuse. How do you explain the terrible sunken areas east of 116 Ave on the SFPR. Bumps so bad they have a sign warning approaching drivers. And that’s not bog.

[MIPS]

No but that was all preloaded river sediment.
That particular spot if I am correct has a high pressure sewer line that could not be moved so they had to be careful with compacting as to not damage the pipe.
It'll settle until it compact but that won't take as long as it will for the bog.

[libtard]

Please enough with the excuses. What I’m getting from the responses is our road builders are incapable of making a flat surface when it involves any type of pipe below the surface. Forget actually raising the level of the road anymore than the bare minimum (value engineering). I’ve driven on interstates and state highways all over Louisiana in harsh bayou country and never experienced anything like the road surface of the SFPR. They also have an extensive viaduct which is another piece of infrastructure BC is slow to adopt.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by libtard

Please enough with the excuses. What I’m getting from the responses is our road builders are incapable of making a flat surface when it involves any type of pipe below the surface. Forget actually raising the level of the road anymore than the bare minimum (value engineering). I’ve driven on interstates and state highways all over Louisiana in harsh bayou country and never experienced anything like the road surface of the SFPR. They also have an extensive viaduct which is another piece of infrastructure BC is slow to adopt.

I don't think it's a cost excuse. It's more likely a schedule constraint. Preload takes a long time, so they probably figured they would build and repair rather than wait several years for preload to finish.

If anything, this is more expensive but ultimately happens on schedule driven projects.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

I don't think it's a cost excuse. It's more likely a schedule constraint. Preload takes a long time, so they probably figured they would build and repair rather than wait several years for preload to finish.

If anything, this is more expensive but ultimately happens on schedule driven projects.

The problem with this theory is that they built, and repaired but repairing did nothing. The section in question has a new patch of asphalt where they tried to repair where the pipe is creating a bump in the road but its more than just a simple repave. Both directions of approaches to the bump need extensive leveling work done. Again, value engineering at its finest because a better design would have taken into account the settling of soil and raised the road over the pipe accordingly. Now we're left with essentially a speed bump on a "highway". Absolutely pathetic

[flipper316]

Correct me if i'm wrong. Wasn't the on ramp from Nordel to 91 south supposed to be extended to merge in with the new off ramp to the 72 nd interchange. Drove by there today and nothing from that side is happening. The interchange has lights installed so looks like they might be close to finishing.

[makr3trkr]

Originally Posted by flipper316

Correct me if i'm wrong. Wasn't the on ramp from Nordel to 91 south supposed to be extended to merge in with the new off ramp to the 72 nd interchange. Drove by there today and nothing from that side is happening. The interchange has lights installed so looks like they might be close to finishing.

Due to the extra lane and weight on the AFB, they are testing the cables to make sure everything is sound, and they also have yet to reconfigure the interchange on Annacis Island, so it will be another year before the counterflow is open. They probably are just going to finish it at that time.

[vancouverer]

The overpass is opened!

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[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by vancouverer

The overpass is opened!

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wow those are some tiny photos.

does the overpass work well?

[libtard]

No lane markings

[ilikeredheads]

what is this? pictures for ants??

only took 3 decades to finally have an overpass, but it's here!!