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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 4:35 PM
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I honestly thought you were kidding, the triangle everyone is referring to is created by the split from the Morrison St Bridge when it crosses into downtown. To be more accurate, it would be an acute triangle. And actually I forgot that 1st is where the MAX runs under the bridge, so realistically any building built on Lot 1 would more than likely bridge over the MAX tracks and connect to Lot 16, which would still be able to make a triangle or triangular shaped building.

This would definitely be one of those rare moments in Portland history that I would want to see this city go the extra mile and really push for something architecturally stand out, possibly even starchitect stand out, that would be exciting to see happen....though knowing Portland, probably never would unless we got lucky and had a smaller firm really try to push the limits with what could be done.
ohhhh okay, i see it now. I was for some reason pictuing a huge triangle building for all the lots haha.
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Gerding Edlen and Melvin Mark face showdown over Morrison Bridgehead

Wish there was more response to the RFP. Not to be a downer, but just don't see how a public market pencils out.




Two developers ready plans for ‘gateway’ project

Multnomah County wants new development at the west end of the Morrison Bridge
BY STEVE LAW
The Portland Tribune, Feb 16, 2011

Two of Portland’s top developers – Gerding Edlen and Melvin Mark – have submitted proposals to buy and develop Multnomah County’s surplus property at the western foot of the Morrison Bridge.

Either proposal could result in a new gateway project for downtown Portland.

Melvin Mark Companies, in partnership with the nonprofit Historic Portland Public Market Foundation, proposes to buy the four-block parcel for $10 million and build a 17-story office tower on one block and the James Beard Public Market on three adjoining blocks.

The market, akin to Pike Place Market in Seattle, would provide year-round, open-air space for 110 produce and other fresh-food vendors, restaurants and food shops. The facility could attract 650,000 visitors a year, according to an economic analysis submitted with the proposal.

Gerding Edlen Development Co., in partnership with the Goodman family that owns the lion’s share of downtown parking lots, proposed to pay $8.1 million for the land. They propose a mix of office, retail and housing on all four blocks. They propose using one of the blocks as the core of an “eco-district,” providing renewable energy, water reclamation and other environmental services for the surrounding area.

The four blocks are used for parking, surrounding the Morrison Bridge ramps. They are considered to be underutilized for such a prominent gateway location.

Gerding Edlen has been the most active Portland developer in recent years, leaving its mark on the Pearl District, the South Waterfront and other areas of town. It’s known as the leading green developer in Oregon and a national leader in environmentally advanced construction methods.

Melvin Mark is one of the oldest development companies in Portland, now run by the third generation of the Mark family. Melvin “Pete” Mark Jr., the emeritus leader of the company, led fundraising for Pioneer Courthouse Square and the Portland Art Museum, and has vowed to raise funds for the nonprofit James Beard Public Market.

No other developers responded to the county’s request for proposals to acquire and develop the site.
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Here's the WW's take on the story.

Goodman and Mark Families Compete to Develop the Morrison Bridgehead
February 16th, 2011 By JAMES PITKIN | News | Posted In: Multnomah County, Business, Housing
Willamette Week

Two of Portland's wealthiest and most powerful families are competing to buy and develop a potentially iconic property on the downtown Willamette River waterfront.

Multnomah County is selling off the four-block parcel at the west end of the Morrison Bridge. The four blocks are currently occupied by surface parking lots.

The county and the Portland Development Commission put out a request for proposals last November seeking an "anchor development" that will "take advantage of the unique opportunity to serve as a major, iconic gateway into downtown Portland."

When the deadline for proposals arrived last week, the county received two offers—one backed by money from the Goodman family, the other with money from the Mark family.

The Goodmans propose to buy the blocks for $8.1 million and build a mix of housing and retail space anchored by an office tower.

The developer Gerding Edlen would head up the project to be built by Hoffman Construction.

"The mix of uses will establish the Bridgehead and adjacent properties as a 24/7 urban community that enhances the livability and safety of downtown," the Goodman proposal says. The proposal also promises "a combination of workforce [read: cheaper] and market-rate, for-rent housing" and "a major concentration of retail and other services."

The majority of the Goodman family fortune comes from ownership of surface parking lots downtown. It's perhaps not surprising that the more inspired proposal is backed by the Mark family, who made money in property development.

The Mark plan would provide a space for the proposed James Beard Public Market—the long-held dream of former Portland restaurateur Ron Paul and other food enthusiasts. The proposal calls for the market to be backed by an "iconic" retail and office tower.

"This project combines an iconic public amenity—a thriving public market—with a signature tower announcing the gateway to the city," the Mark proposal says. "The project will also have a significant economic impact on the region, including the benefit of creating a sustainable business model for start-up and maturing enterprises that promote local and healthful food."

The Marks top the Goodmans on price, offering to buy the blocks for $10 million. The Melvin Mark Development Company would head the project, to be designed by SERA Architects.

The Goodman proposal also mentions the possibility of a public market. But the Marks' proposal has the backing of U.S. Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.), with a quote from the congressman on the proposal's front page.

"I continue to believe that the Morrison Bridgehead provides the ideal location for the James Beard Public Market and urge you to give this proposal due consideration," the proposal quotes Blumenauer as saying.

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Am I alone in being unable to imagine Sera designing anything "iconic" (iconic in a good way, that is)? After the giant turd they dropped on Mississippi Ave last year, I don't trust them with the practice of architecture, period. I'm curious, yes, to see how the Fed building turns out... but I digress.

Basically, I love the market idea, but I wish Melvin Mark had reached out to a younger and more creative firm (Allied Works? Will they ever get another commission here?). Iconic requires confidence and audacity.

This site/project also seems perfect for a design competition.
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As high profile as this site is, I think there will be enough public and political oversight to ensure that the design is truly iconic. It's not fair to expect a bare-bones 4-6 story market rate housing development on Mississippi to be "iconic".

That said, I agree, this is not a place for timid architecture. If they (SERA) can't go bold, then Mark needs to get somebody who can.
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I will say, SERA is a big firm and it depends on which architecture team there that is working on a project like this, so they could end up doing some really good work.

But it always annoys me when I see something like this come up and the word "iconic" is being thrown around and no one seems to mention Allied Works being their choice for architect in Portland...go anywhere else and they always pop up as being a go to firm for something "iconic." And after seeing Allied Works's work in NYC, I am convinced they would be able to pull off an amazing tower and public market building to be a true icon for the city.
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the GE doc doesn't seem to work, but that MM response is pretty unpleasant. Serviceable, I guess... But not the kind of building I hoped to see on such an interesting site.

also: #9 on the site plan, the "potential market" site pretty much sums up what's wrong with this plan: it's so damn obvious. Not to mention, were it ever built out it would carve a chunk straight through the middle of the waterfront park. There are ways to have a connection to the river without just chopping a swath through it and saying, "look marketgoers: the river!"
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After reviewing the response it looks like the GE/Goodman proposal looks more realistic, with a shorter timeline to actually get a building built. Don't really see the demand for a year round public market at that location. Even after working on this issue for long as they have, MM would still have to scrounge up financial supporters for the public market piece doesn't bode well for its feasibility.

If there could be a side deal to remove the morrison ramps to Naito, things would be cooking.
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Where would a public market leave the Centennial Mills project?
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If there could be a side deal to remove the morrison ramps to Naito, things would be cooking.
That won't happen because it's the primary truck access from the Central Eastside to SB I-5 (at least the northern ramp is). If they ever built the Water Ave on-ramp to SB I-5 like they've tried to do in the past, then those ramps can go away.
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I can't get the Gerding/Goodman proposal to open?
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I can't get the Gerding/Goodman proposal to open?
I had the same problem.
Try "download document" or whatever on the dropdown tab.
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2 proposals pitched for Morrison bridgehead
POSTED: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 at 02:22 PM PT
BY: Nick Bjork
Daily Journal of Commerce

Which would be a better fit for parking lots that surround the Morrison bridgehead in downtown Portland: an eco-district or a public market?

A five-member panel of Multnomah County officials will soon decide, after reviewing two development proposals - one each from local firms Gerding Edlen and Melvin Mark - for the four bridgehead parcels that total 3.1 acres of buildable land.

Multnomah County has owned the lots for nearly 50 years, but has never used them for anything except parking and staging. In November, the county issued a request for proposals to gauge private interest and learn about development possibilities for the lots - Nos. 1, 2, 16 and 39 - that hug the Morrison bridgehead.

“The county put out the RFP to take a strategic look at its assets and determine if there is a way to use the properties for good while taking a burden off the county’s operations and the people that pay for them,” said Warren Fish, a senior policy adviser in Multnomah County Chairman Jeff Cogen’s office. “And from the county commission’s perspective, these are visible lots and seeing them developed would make an impression on their legacy.”

The RFP drew interest from two of Portland’s most notable development firms. The county had hoped for more proposals, but Fish said officials are excited about the two proposals.

Melvin Mark Cos. teamed up with local consultant Ron Paul and the Historic Portland Public Market Foundation to pitch a development centered on the long proposed James Beard Public Market. Melvin Mark would buy the four parcels from the county for $10 million and construct an indoor, open-air public market with room for 110 vendors on three of the parcels and a 17-story office building on the center parcel, which has a 235-foot height limit.

Dan Petrusich, president of Melvin Mark Development Co., said he couldn’t provide many details because the proposal is being reviewed. However, he called it a “great site” and said the company would be excited to participate in the development process.

Paul, the leading force behind the development, teamed up with Melvin Mark last year to pursue opportunities for the market. Even before the county decided to look at potential developments for the bridgehead parcels, Paul identified the area as a good fit for the market.

Paul said he likes the tract of land because it’s more of a crossroads than a cul-de-sac. Not only would the market be in the same vicinity as the Portland markets of the 19th and 20th centuries, but it also would be within walking distance of Portland Saturday Market, downtown shopping districts and the central eastside district, he said.

Gerding Edlen, meanwhile, is pitching a mix of office, retail and housing on the three surrounding parcels. The center parcel would be an eco-district and provide sustainable and efficient amenities to the surrounding buildings. This would include equipment to provide renewable energy and a water reclamation system.

The project is similar to others that Gerding Edlen has been building across the country throughout the recession.

Gerding Edlen would pay $8.2 million for the parcels, $1.8 million less than Melvin Mark. But as Fish pointed out, the county has not determined whether it would simply sell the lots or become a development partner and provide other resources.

The five-member evaluation committee will hold two meetings in March - one to discuss the proposals and another to score them. The committee will then present its recommendation to the county commission, which will make the final decision at a meeting as early as April.

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C'mon, a new tower HAS to be on the way! PAW? 100 Multnomah is mentioned by Trammell Crow.


Developers expect better market

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Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 3:00am PST


Portland’s commercial real estate market appears to be at a crossroads. With the lease pace picking up in some markets, the prospects for new development seem brighter than in the past couple of years. Accordingly, the Business Journal asked six developers to share their impressions of the market, and to talk a bit about the projects in their pipelines.

Jordan Schnitzer
President
Harsch Investment
Properties


Overall, Portland commercial real estate is steadily improving like most of its West Coast counterparts. As often said, Portland doesn’t experience the highs and lows like other metropolitan areas.

Business is improving with companies adding a few people at a time. This results in Class A office space being leased up at a steady pace. Because there are few large Class A spaces larger than 40,000 square feet available in new Class A buildings, Park Avenue West or another project will need to start construction soon to fill the anticipated void in 2013-2014.

Class B space remains available with about 100 spaces in the range of 4,000 to 6,000 square feet. Rents are stable and have yet to increase.

Industrial absorption picked up these past six months. While rates still remain low, space is filling up and I predict higher rates this summer into fall.

Retail has shown a glimmer as major retailers are realizing that rents are great right now, and they are actively shuffling around to take advantage of low lease rates for the long term.

Our Portland portfolio of 2.5 million square feet is at 92 percent occupancy. We suffered a little when Linens ’n Things left our Cascade Plaza Shopping center near Washington Square, so we are pleased to have Nordstrom Rack opening its 45,000-square-foot store in the fall.

Although it took us 18 months to fill the proposed Zell’s jewelry store space at Pacific Center, located at the corner of Southwest Broadway and Taylor, construction is proceeding rapidly on the $3.5 million Ruth’s Chris Steak House project.

Chris Nelson
Principal
Capstone Partners LLC


After a very difficult two years in the development business, I predict the thinner crowd of surviving developers will start to come out of hiding in 2011.

With the exception of select multifamily projects and tenant-driven build-to-suits, market conditions do not exist today for new development. However, in 2011 Portland’s healthier submarkets will see nominal growth in rents and occupancy in all property types with the exception of suburban office and strip retail.

Portland’s commercial property markets didn’t experience the overbuilding other West Coast markets did, so as our economy continues to expand I think we will see a nice bounce in rents in 2012 that will create a climate for limited development on top-quality sites in 2012. This assumes we don’t have a major set back in the economy.

As to Capstone’s focus, we have two medical office projects in pre-development and are currently under construction of Cannery Square in Sherwood’s Old Town area. This is a mixed-use development that includes new public streets, a destination town square, a community and arts center, multifamily housing and commercial space.

In 2012, we plan to convert the former cannery warehouse into the community center and hope to break ground on 100 market rate apartments there.

Brad Malsin
Managing member
Beam Development


I see the Portland real estate market slightly rebounding through the end of 2011 into 2012. We have experienced stable demand for flexible office space with small upward adjustments in rates. Demand for retail space has slowed and requires increased leasing efforts targeted directly towards successful operators with some additional incentives. We do not see a strong residential purchase market until both the credit market is relaxed and the existing inventory is absorbed. We do see continued residential rental demand for close-in properties or properties serving special niches.

We expect these conditions to continue over the next few years as credit markets remain tight and consumers focus on debt reduction and income growth. Redevelopment projects will require increased leasing commitments and be subject to lower loan-to-cost ratios. As a result, we continue to seek more creative or alternative sources of financing. Investment capital is out there and will find alternative ways to fill the void left by commercial lenders.

New development projects will increasingly be build-to-suit, public-private partnerships or catering towards specific market niches. Our pipeline projects reflect this evolution. In Eugene, for example, the Broadway Commerce Center, which opens in August, provides creative work/flex space at affordable lease rates to small and entrepreneurial companies.

Another pipeline project is renovation of the Globe Hotel in Portland’s Old Town for the Oregon College of Oriental Medicine renovation, slated to open in January 2012. We are also working on Convention Plaza Commerce Center, expected mid-2012.

Steve Wells
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Portland office

Trammell Crow Co.


In 2010, crisis management gave way gradually to cautious planning for the future. In 2011, optimism is breaking out everywhere as operating fundamentals improve, capital re-engages and values jump.

Portland office and industrial vacancies peaked in early 2010 and have now dropped to 11.5 percent and 8.9 percent respectively, according to CoStar. Build-to-suits are the only solution for the largest industrial and urban office users, because existing vacancies are too small.

We are breaking ground on a 413,700-square-foot parts facility for Subaru in Rivergate. No existing buildings met their height and loading requirements. We will soon start a 79,800-square-foot office building for the Oregon Research Institute in Eugene, and we are pursuing large preleases for 100 Multnomah, a 337,000-square-foot office building across from the convention center.

Competition remains fierce for smaller tenants, but rents have bottomed and steady absorption continues in industrial and urban office markets. Suburban office continues to see weak demand as tenants focus on urban and walkable mixed-use developments with good transit, such as our Cascade Station project where leasing has picked up dramatically.

Last year capital competed aggressively only for marquee projects in gateway markets, but investors have much more money this year and a much broader appetite.

Kirk L. Olsen
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DP Partners/Dermody
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When DP Partners opened its Portland office in 2007, we were bullish on the market. Considering everything that’s happened with the economy and real estate industry since then, our Reno, Nev.-based company remains bullish on Portland.

Various factors such as the urban growth boundary limited the region’s supply of property during the building boom, and demand has held up relatively well in the current downturn. Since Portland’s vacancy rates are substantially lower than the national averages, rents and valuations should recover faster than many other markets. Investor interest in the market is strong: Grubb & Ellis’s Investment Outlook Report for 2011 ranks Portland in the top 10 markets for office (No. 3), industrial (No. 9) and retail (No. 5).

Our recent projects in Portland include a partnership with the Portland Development Commission in the Airport Way Urban Renewal Area. Our objective was to generate employment opportunities through industrial real estate development initiatives. We delivered a 265,000-square-foot speculative project in spring 2008 and have leased 85 percent of the building to high-quality tenants. Those include LaCrosse Footwear, where hundreds of skilled workers manufacture Danner boots.

In May 2010, we completed a $12 million design-build headquarters for Morgan Distributing, a beverage distributor.

In the Northwest, I am actively pursuing other build-to-suit projects, ranking industrial land opportunities and always exploring ways to partner with other groups. As a developer, owner and operator, we’re also growing our property management business. DP now manages more than 1 million square feet of industrial properties for institutions, such as ING Clarion.

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The one thing I'll say about this is that I wish a firm with a higher profile and better design acumen than Sera was designing the public market. I'm wishing for something more in the spirit of the Santa Caterina market in Barcelona (which was really an addition and renovation), which I got to experience in person last fall -- bold, and reflective of that city's confidence and effervescent buzz...rather than uninspired and utilitarian, which, at first glance, is my impression of this proposal. But maybe that is all that this city is capable of.

Indoor public market proposal picked for Morrison bridgehead
POSTED: Thursday, May 5, 2011 at 01:59 PM PT
BY: Nick Bjork



For more than a decade, local consultant Ron Paul has hunted for a site where his year-round indoor public market concept could become reality. Now Paul and local development firm Melvin Mark Cos. may be close to moving forward in downtown Portland.

A Melvin Mark proposal to convert four Multnomah County-owned parcels at the foot of the Morrison Bridge into a 17-story office building and an indoor public market was recommended by a five-member expert panel convened by the county. The proposal, which was selected over a mixed-use eco-district concept pitched by Gerding Edlen, will go before the Multnomah County Board of Commissioners on May 26 for final approval.

Under its proposal, Melvin Mark would pay $10.03 million for 3.1 acres of land being used by the county for surface parking. The company would then spend $120.6 million to convert one of the parcels – Block 16 – into a 17-story, class-A office building with 327,713 square feet of leasable space, and the three remaining blocks into a 110,000-square-foot indoor public market.

Four of the evaluation committee’s five members scored the Melvin Mark proposal higher than the Gerding Edlen proposal, which also listed the Goodman family, which owns City Center Parking, as a partner. In scoring for the 11 categories, which weren’t weighted and ranged in value from 0-10, Melvin Mark averaged 8.1, and Gerding Edlen averaged 7.1.

The evaluation committee included: Gale Castillo, president of the Hispanic Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce; John Holmes, principal with Holst Architecture; Ray Leary, principal with ERL Development; George Passadore, retired chairman of Wells Fargo in Oregon and Southwest Washington; and John Russell, principal with Russell Development Co.

Paul for years has pitched the James Beard Public Market and seen it fall through because of various circumstances. Sites discussed previously include the Federal Building at 511 N.W. Broadway and a space in Union Station.

“I’m going to let the proposal speak for itself until the county commission votes on it,” Paul said. “But I will say that we’re very encouraged and excited that the county’s appraisal team agreed with us that the public market concept meshed well with the goals of the county for the site.”

The Melvin Mark proposal received 83 percent of available points, and Gerding Edlen received 74.2 percent. According to score sheets, the biggest differences were in purchase price and design.

Melvin Mark would pay $10.03 million for the property; Gerding Edlen would pay $8.2 million. The property was appraised at $8.83 million in 2005.

Of the 30 available points awarded for design, Melvin Mark received 26.7 and Gerding Edlen received 18.4. Melvin Mark has and would continue to rely on local firm SERA Architects for the project. Other consultants that have contributed to Melvin Mark’s effort include local firms Mayer/Reed for landscape architecture, KPFF Consulting Engineers for structural engineering and ECONorthwest for economic consulting.

But as county spokesman David Austin pointed out, the evaluation committee does not have the final say; ultimately, the county commission will determine whether the Melvin Mark proposal will move forward. Austin said the commission could ask for a retooled proposal from Melvin Mark, choose to discuss the Gerding Edlen proposal or issue an entirely new request for proposals.

“Like I said, we are very encouraged, but this is only one step in the long process of actually getting something built and people in the market,” Paul said.

Melvin Mark has been in discussions with Paul since 2008, according to Dan Petrusich, president of the firm’s development wing.

“We’re just thrilled to be part of this process and have it moving forward,” he said. “Ron’s tenacity and vision for this project are remarkable, and we hope it can come to light.”

Mark Edlen, co-founder and CEO of Gerding Edlen, said the public market is a good concept, which he plans to support if the county ultimately moves in that direction.

“I would expect the committee recommendation will carry a lot of weight with the county,” Edlen said. “If they decide to go forward with it, I will be one of the first in line to contribute to the public market, which I think is a great idea.”

If the county commission were to select the Melvin Mark proposal, a Disposition and Development Agreement process would start. The DDA would outline site acquisition and how construction would proceed.

If a DDA were signed, Melvin Mark officials anticipate development and construction requiring approximately five years. The company would simultaneously look for office tenants and start a public campaign to secure funding for the market, which would be operated as a nonprofit.
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The one thing I'll say about this is that I wish a firm with a higher profile and better design acumen than Sera was designing the public market. I'm wishing for something more in the spirit of the Santa Caterina market in Barcelona (which was really an addition and renovation), which I got to experience in person last fall -- bold, and reflective of that city's confidence and effervescent buzz...rather than uninspired and utilitarian, which, at first glance, is my impression of this proposal. But maybe that is all that this city is capable of.
The rendering they provided is only a conceptual drawing, so don't get too hung up on that first impression. I'm sure Sera knows the prominence and visibility of this project and how important it is to get it right. It could become a signature building for Portland if they think outside the box.

GE's concept looked more like a brewery block mish-mash that works great in the Pearl, but would have been a huge mistake for the waterfront.
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Sera may know, the question is are they qualified. Firms have been debasing themselves on cheap boxy crap for so long I find it hard to believe they could come up with something as fantastic as the Santa Caterina. They speak an entirely different architecture language. I expect trimet MAX like shelters, even with unlimited funds.
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I actually think the Santa Caterina isn't that great. Sure, the roof looks lively and energetic from the sides or from above, but the interior is a confusing mess and you really don't get the same vibrant feel when you're inside. I would hope for something better than that for our public market.
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