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Old Posted Jun 13, 2021, 8:48 PM
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The last thing we need is an even more distributed population. It leads only to sprawl, bad urban planning and massively increased taxes to pay for infrastructure spread out over vast geography.

And this leaves aside all of this issues that come from turning house into a work place.
One of my biggest concerns. It is extremely difficult for some people to disconnect the two. I think if we’re not careful we will see a lot of burnout in people who can’t shut off their work brains after hours and eventually decreased productivity in those who can’t focus on work because their laundry needs to be done and kids are screaming and the neighbour keeps coming to visit.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2021, 9:54 PM
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Yup, there are going to be people who it doesn’t work for but the vast majority of people I know, including friends and colleagues in a variety of desk-based roles, either would prefer working from home a majority of the time or already have made arrangements to do so. If I’m forced to commute, pay for parking, and spend all my breaks at work again, I’m certainly not going to be thrilled. I would like to consider myself disciplined enough to not need distance to separate work and home. The type of people who weren’t able to do that during the pandemic are the same types who couldn’t before the pandemic.
That’s great for your friends, but to suggest that those who can’t separate the two are not disciplined is pretty condescending. My parents own a business and refuse to bring paperwork home even if it means staying late because home is their sanctuary away from work. I am lucky in that I have the flexibility to work from home or my office. I choose to go to the office because of the social interaction and to give some separation in my life. I also work in healthcare and it is hard enough to leave work at work when your job is to care for others. When I work from home it’s hard not answering emails after hours or taking phone calls. Not because I’m not disciplined, but because it’s hard not to when I know the person on the other end needs my help. I also know that if I answer every after hours call or email I am going to burn out pretty quickly. A coworker texted me this weekend upset about a client issue and I had to say go enjoy the weekend with your family and we’ll deal with it on Monday. But I’ve been thinking about it myself all weekend. It’s hard enough not to take work home with you when you deal with people’s well-being. Nevermind when work is literally at home.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2021, 11:59 PM
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I would like to consider myself disciplined enough to not need distance to separate work and home. The type of people who weren’t able to do that during the pandemic are the same types who couldn’t before the pandemic.
LOL, if only the whole world was like you.

I’ve loved aspects of WFH, but I’d never want to do it 100% of the time if I had my way. I need a barrier between home and work life. It has nothing to do with discipline.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2021, 12:35 AM
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That’s sad. I guess none of you would have made it as farmers lol.
https://stigmafreesociety.com/blog/m...adian-farmers/

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To further our understanding of the current state of mental health and Canadian farmers, here are a few statistics that we should all be aware of:
35% of farmers meet the classification for depression;
58% of farmers meet the classification for anxiety;
45% of farmers report high stress;
68% of farmers are more susceptible than the general population to chronic stress, which can lead to physical and mental illnesses.
I come from a farming family. I love the farm, but that is not the life for me. I’m not sure what’s sad about the fact that different people have different personality types. Or that some people need separation between work and home. Just because you and your friends prefer work from home that does not mean that everyone else should.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2021, 8:02 PM
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I got a feeling that something amazing is going to be Announced for downtown just a feeling that’s hopefully it’s true
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2021, 9:55 PM
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The new Sobey’s on 13th is looking great! I wish the 13th and Elphinstone 3 floor mess had a comparable exterior quality.

Thanks for the photos, Udon’tknow.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2021, 10:20 PM
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Do we know what's going into the retail space there? Anything is better than a vape shop
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Brandt says new CNIB building delayed due to pandemic
The president and CEO of the Brandt Group of Companies says construction on the new CNIB building has been delayed due to COVID-19, but hopes to move forward as restrictions ease.

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Old Posted Jun 15, 2021, 2:43 PM
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Brandt says new CNIB building delayed due to pandemic
The president and CEO of the Brandt Group of Companies says construction on the new CNIB building has been delayed due to COVID-19, but hopes to move forward as restrictions ease.

https://leaderpost.com/news/local-ne...ue-to-pandemic
They most likely are gathering their thoughts on not building on the Wascana Park lands and are looking to build downtown
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2021, 8:09 PM
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They most likely are gathering their thoughts on not building on the Wascana Park lands and are looking to build downtown
I’ve actually heard that Brandt has no intention of building downtown, and the building in the park was the most central that they would go. The reasoning that I’ve heard is that they want to appease their consumer base, and building a fancy downtown tower makes them appear as if they’re no longer “humble” (LOL).

I had heard a rumour that if the building in the park got shut down, their plan was to just expand their current office on the edge of the city. Again, the above is just rumours that I’ve heard so nobody should put too much stock in what I said.

I really wish that the 1800 Rose tower would’ve gone ahead, and especially in a time like this, a new Brandt tower downtown is likely to be the only development we will see. But I also despise them for their shady tactics trying to get Wascana project pushed through and in my eyes they’ve lost any sort of goodwill that they may have had in our community.
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2021, 8:39 PM
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I’ve actually heard that Brandt has no intention of building downtown, and the building in the park was the most central that they would go. The reasoning that I’ve heard is that they want to appease their consumer base, and building a fancy downtown tower makes them appear as if they’re no longer “humble” (LOL).

I had heard a rumour that if the building in the park got shut down, their plan was to just expand their current office on the edge of the city. Again, the above is just rumours that I’ve heard so nobody should put too much stock in what I said.

I really wish that the 1800 Rose tower would’ve gone ahead, and especially in a time like this, a new Brandt tower downtown is likely to be the only development we will see. But I also despise them for their shady tactics trying to get Wascana project pushed through and in my eyes they’ve lost any sort of goodwill that they may have had in our community.
Lol we’ve all seen Semple’s house and there’s nothing humble about it. I don’t know if there’s any truth to that rumour you heard, but using your influence and friends to bypass the rules is anything but humble. They’re out to lunch if they think people will buy it. Everyone knows Brandt is a huge company. Investing in your community (and not being shady and greedy about it) is the best way to create goodwill. Some humble pie is just what they need.
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I’ve actually heard that Brandt has no intention of building downtown, and the building in the park was the most central that they would go. The reasoning that I’ve heard is that they want to appease their consumer base, and building a fancy downtown tower makes them appear as if they’re no longer “humble” (LOL).

I had heard a rumour that if the building in the park got shut down, their plan was to just expand their current office on the edge of the city. Again, the above is just rumours that I’ve heard so nobody should put too much stock in what I said.

I really wish that the 1800 Rose tower would’ve gone ahead, and especially in a time like this, a new Brandt tower downtown is likely to be the only development we will see. But I also despise them for their shady tactics trying to get Wascana project pushed through and in my eyes they’ve lost any sort of goodwill that they may have had in our community.
Brandt will never build downtown Regina. They have a long history of building in or just on the outskirts of the city.
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2021, 8:32 PM
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Brandt not wanting to build downtown has nothing to do with that. Like 90% of it is because they want to avoid City taxes. It's why all of their buildings are in the RM.
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To be honest, I want Brandt to puke all over downtown with a giant in your face office tower. We all know how big they are and how much money they make.
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To be honest, I want Brandt to puke all over downtown with a giant in your face office tower. We all know how big they are and how much money they make.
With Any luck they will build a new office building attached to their new arena wouldn’t that be grand one never knows downtown needs all the help I can get
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To be honest, I want Brandt to puke all over downtown with a giant in your face office tower. We all know how big they are and how much money they make.
Especially since they are now the sole dealer for John Deere Construction & Forestry dealer for all of Canada after acquiring Nortax back in 2019.

I mean it is painfully apparent that the only reason they will likely never build a downtown headquarters is that they want to avoid paying city taxes. The only way it will happen is if the city becomes a bitch and gives Brandt some sweet tax breaks.
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My argument is that we should get rid of cubical and open office to and give everyone an office. A big part of the reason people hate offices is because organizations and consultants have convinced themselves that people like to work in a school-cafeteria like environment.
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My argument is that we should get rid of cubical and open office to and give everyone an office. A big part of the reason people hate offices is because organizations and consultants have convinced themselves that people like to work in a school-cafeteria like environment.
I agree. The smaller cubes get, and the more cookie-cutter spaces get, the less appealing they are to most people I know. The model that was in-place, or taking root just before COVID was essentially unworkable for most everyone.

I envision that progressive employers will use office space to accommodate those who can’t/don’t want to WFH, as well as provide space for employees to touchdown when the need/want to be in the office (think co-working facilities, but owned by your employer).

Employers who suck at managing people, will maintain cubevilles, will mandate in-office presence, and will constantly complain about turnover (and the associated cost of hiring/training). They’ll be confused why they can’t retain.

This being said, I do t think any of us has a crustal ball - but I bet we can agree that the model of work has changed permanently. Not that what we’re doing today is the end state, just that the model that existed pre-March 2020 is dead.
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Part of the resistance to WFH for the Crowns is that those workers are too key to the downtown businesses. There was a big lobby by Regina Downtown last summer to get Crown workers back in the offices. The restaurants and other businesses need those employees' spending. When SGI was talking a few years ago about building new office space outside of downtown, the city rejected it and said they wouldn't issue permits or sell them land to go elsewhere. Without Crowns, the downtown would likely die.
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Part of the resistance to WFH for the Crowns is that those workers are too key to the downtown businesses. There was a big lobby by Regina Downtown last summer to get Crown workers back in the offices. The restaurants and other businesses need those employees' spending. When SGI was talking a few years ago about building new office space outside of downtown, the city rejected it and said they wouldn't issue permits or sell them land to go elsewhere. Without Crowns, the downtown would likely die.
Yeah. This is what I meant about optics. I know dozens who were fully enabled to work remotely, who were ordered back to the office in the summer/fall… no changes to the physical layout/distancing/HVAC, and most hadn’t been vaccinated. No capacity limits, and no mask mandate indoors (unlike other businesses).
But the orders from the executives were to get people back downtown -

(Related: City’s policy on this is shortsighted)
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