Winnipeg | University of Manitoba | Southwood Circle - Page 11

FactaNV · #1 Posted **Jun 4, 2024, 2:00 PM**

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Now imagine those towers around a nice shiny redeveloped Point Douglas!

Alongside Forks 2.0. I hope they go full steam ahead with the plans, it'd be transformational.

WildCake · #2 Posted **Jun 4, 2024, 2:53 PM**

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Alongside Forks 2.0. I hope they go full steam ahead with the plans, it'd be transformational.

Hopefully the developers that the U of M is able to sway our way have some success in the Southwood Circle project that they stick around for additional projects either in Southwood or elsewhere in the city (i.e. Point Douglas or Forks).

I'm assuming the U of M's higher quality criteria limits who may be interested in Winnipeg as there seems to be a particularly striking race to the bottom for the quality (cost) of finishings and building looks recently. Understandable in a high interest economy, but if we can show the quality builders they can also make some coin here then it might help things move along.

Biff · #3 Posted **Jun 5, 2024, 1:11 PM**

Architect - www.wzmh.com

....fancy

FactaNV · #4 Posted **Jun 5, 2024, 1:33 PM**

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Architect - www.wzmh.com

....fancy

Nothing posted on their site about Winnipeg though, boo.

trueviking · #5 Posted **Jun 5, 2024, 5:42 PM**

Webb Zerafa are an old firm...they designed the Investors Group Building and 200 Graham.

FactaNV · #6 Posted **Jun 5, 2024, 6:32 PM**

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Webb Zerafa are an old firm...they designed the Investors Group Building and 200 Graham.

Neat, a little building lore haha

WinCitySparky · #7 Posted **Jun 5, 2024, 8:54 PM**

Cool info

Biff · #8 Posted **Jun 11, 2024, 4:26 PM**

I haven't seen these renders yet. They look generic and AI-ish, but the first one, the middle tower looks to be just over 20 storeys and could possibly be the proposed tower. The second looks generic and doesn't have the tall 20-something tower in it.

from Southwood Circle LinkedIn

trueviking · #9 Posted **Jun 11, 2024, 9:59 PM**

the proposed tower is on a 5-6 storey podium.

bomberjet · #10 Posted **Jun 12, 2024, 3:02 PM**

Not to get ahead of ourselves here. But is there any news on other developments, roads, paths, etc? I'm getting 'one large tower in a field' type vibes.

FactaNV · #11 Posted **Jun 12, 2024, 3:11 PM**

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Not to get ahead of ourselves here. But is there any news on other developments, roads, paths, etc? I'm getting 'one large tower in a field' type vibes.

I think the utility and road construction is proceeding apace.

WildCake · #12 Posted **Jun 12, 2024, 5:23 PM**

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I think the utility and road construction is proceeding apace.

Yea I drove by the other day and it seemed to be humming along quite well. My gut feeling about this project is that once the first tower is in, it'll spur the rest of the development.

I'm looking forward to this project and I hope the U of M team holds strong to its standards. I'm sure they're bound to it to some extent given the neighbourhood plan they got done through the city, although I guess that can be amended.

I don't want it to look like what's going on in the Refinery District. Yes, there's a lot of multifamily, but there must be such low land costs that all these 4-6 story buildings developers are getting away with surface lots to cover their 1.5 spot/dwelling quota and it just feels so sparse and like a giant expanses of parking lots, rather than a dense TOD neighbourhood it was originally touted to be. Maybe it isn't quite built up to that point yet but that was my feeling driving through there.

ColdRain&Snow · #13 Posted **Jun 12, 2024, 6:32 PM**

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Yea I drove by the other day and it seemed to be humming along quite well. My gut feeling about this project is that once the first tower is in, it'll spur the rest of the development.

I'm looking forward to this project and I hope the U of M team holds strong to its standards. I'm sure they're bound to it to some extent given the neighbourhood plan they got done through the city, although I guess that can be amended.

I don't want it to look like what's going on in the Refinery District. Yes, there's a lot of multifamily, but there must be such low land costs that all these 4-6 story buildings developers are getting away with surface lots to cover their 1.5 spot/dwelling quota and it just feels so sparse and like a giant expanses of parking lots, rather than a dense TOD neighbourhood it was originally touted to be. Maybe it isn't quite built up to that point yet but that was my feeling driving through there.

The Refinery District (aka Bishop Heights) is definitely suburban in character. It's honestly really disappointing seeing the huge parking lots and barren roads going in right next to a Rapid Transit station. The development could have been so much nicer. The reality is that the large, non-local developers for that neighbourhood know that they can make a good profit off the suburban style development, so no reason to try something new. It's not worth their time to fight with the City over parking minimums, minimum-setbacks, etc. It takes a committed developer and architect to fight the City and make high-quality urban developments happen. Just look at all the challengers TrueViking just faced with his 6-story building going in on Marion St.

With all that being said, we're in the middle of a housing crisis so I'm still glad that multi-family buildings near Rapid Transit are getting built. But the development could have been so much better. Thankfully Southwood Circle is looking more promising.

bomberjet · #14 Posted **Jun 12, 2024, 6:27 PM**

IIRC, now that I've had lunch, there were a couple other proposals here in the works.

FactaNV · #15 Posted **Sep 9, 2024, 11:42 PM**

Hey all, does anyone know if there's been any buildings announced for this project yet? I know they're pretty deep into utility work, will they be able to start on residences anytime soon?

Biff · #16 Posted **Sep 10, 2024, 1:37 PM**

First building, 23 storey - 358 units planned start in spring 2025.

FactaNV · #17 Posted **Sep 10, 2024, 1:50 PM**

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First building, 23 storey - 358 units planned start in spring 2025.

You gotta like that! Where'd the info come from Biff? Tha ks for the heads up.

BAKGUY · #18 Posted **Sep 10, 2024, 5:31 PM**

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First building, 23 storey - 358 units planned start in spring 2025.

Are u aware of any mock up or rendering on it yet?

WinCitySparky · #19 Posted **Sep 10, 2024, 8:28 PM**

I wonder if the recent steep national drop in student visas will affect construction of residential around the university.

FactaNV · #20 Posted **Sep 10, 2024, 9:05 PM**

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I wonder if the recent steep national drop in student visas will affect construction of residential around the university.

I can't see it affecting research universities like the U of M too much. Diploma mills will tank but the kids at the university are actually there to learn and will be allowed to do so before they approve SPs for kids studying hotel management.