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[bomberjet]

They will be building parkade (s) too. Seems like they need places for people to park in the interim so development can get started. They can't guarantee that without owning the parcel 4 lot and are willing to pay market value.

There is also a parkade and surface parking already there for visitors. Not sure why the hubbub.

The long term vision is to provide better transit service, reduce waterfront to 4 lanes south of York, in an effort to reduce vehicles traveling to the site. Parkades being built are to serve the residents of the new developments.

[Kris22]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

They will be building parkade (s) too. Seems like they need places for people to park in the interim so development can get started. They can't guarantee that without owning the parcel 4 lot and are willing to pay market value.

There is also a parkade and surface parking already there for visitors. Not sure why the hubbub.

The long term vision is to provide better transit service, reduce waterfront to 4 lanes south of York, in an effort to reduce vehicles traveling to the site. Parkades being built are to serve the residents of the new developments.

Do we know for sure that the new parkades are strictly for residents? I was wondering about that.

In the end people will just have to get used to the idea of parking and walking a bit. Which isn't unheard of in destinations like the forks.

[bomberjet]

From what I remember they were for residents. However, maybe I don't quite remember that correctly. I'd be curious to know what the newest plan is. As things have evolved from the original days of towers.

There will still be the public parkade that is there now.

[bomberjet]

^ It'll be interesting to see how the developers mitigate noise and vibration from the railway. Thicker walls, better windows, foundation buffering. All these are recommendations in the rail proximity guidelines.

Maybe we'll get more info once the parcel 4 thing is resolved and Jordan releases some plans.

[Ando]

It’s fun to watch all the trains go by in your backyard, isn’t it?

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by Ando

It’s fun to watch all the trains go by in your backyard, isn’t it?

Two km away. But yeah, nice to be somewhere with actual commerce and regular rail passenger service.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Two km away. But yeah, nice to be somewhere with actual commerce and regular rail passenger service.

Passenger rail service in western Canada has all but been ignored by VIA but seriously with such vast distances who has time to take the train. Not having passenger rail service through the country's fourth largest city is also pretty stupid.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by Ando

It’s fun to watch all the trains go by in your backyard, isn’t it?

Many years ago I spend a lot of time at relatives that lived on Mission St and I got use to sleeping at night with all the trains from the CN line behind. And during they day I'd sit and wave at the trains and sometime the crew would wave back or use their air horn.

[Ando]

Originally Posted by cllew

Many years ago I spend a lot of time at relatives that lived on Mission St and I got use to sleeping at night with all the trains from the CN line behind. And during they day I'd sit and wave at the trains and sometime the crew would wave back or use their air horn.

I actually don’t think the trains are going to be an issue. I was more reacting to RiverTrain man’s incessant one-upmanship.

[Spocket]

Despite the trains, the location does have some major advantages over locations in other parts of the city.

Downtown, the Forks, anything else you can think of that's a destination in the city. Plus, you've got easy transit access and once the eastern leg of BRT goes through they'll be right on the line at one of what will surely become the busiest station in the city.

[Jeff]

I guess this doesn't mean anything:


"Symington Yard is the largest of Canadian National Railway's rail classification yard in Canada, one of 20 intermodal facilities[1] and one the largest rail yards in the world.[2] The facility is located next to the Windsor Park area of Winnipeg, Manitoba.
Built in 1962 and named for former CNR Director Herbert James Symington (1881-1965)[3], it can store 7000 cars[4] and handles 3000 cars per day.[5]"

source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symington_Yard

[Jeff]

^^^ riverman has to let us all know that even his ontario rail lines are far superior to any potentially better rail lines from the dregs of winnipeg that he is so happy to have left behind! all hail the far superior trains that pass by where he dwells! they would probably burn more efficiently if there was a derailment as well in that Ontario commerce-friendly air!

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by Jeff

^^^ riverman has to let us all know that even his ontario rail lines are far superior to any potentially better rail lines from the dregs of winnipeg that he is so happy to have left behind! all hail the far superior trains that pass by where he dwells! they would probably burn more efficiently if there was a derailment as well in that Ontario commerce-friendly air!

Someone mentioned the CN line through downtown was one of the busiest in Canada. It isn't. Not even close.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Someone mentioned the CN line through downtown was one of the busiest in Canada. It isn't. Not even close.

"One of" the busiest. Not "the busiest". There is a difference.

It is correct to say it is one of the busiest, because it is.

Not that it's some kind of feather in Winnipeg's cap or anything... most of the freight trains are passing through along the main line. Until you made your comment, it never occurred to me that having a bunch of freight trains rumbling through town was something to brag about.

[Ando]

Originally Posted by Jeff

^^^ riverman has to let us all know that even his ontario rail lines are far superior to any potentially better rail lines from the dregs of winnipeg that he is so happy to have left behind! all hail the far superior trains that pass by where he dwells! they would probably burn more efficiently if there was a derailment as well in that Ontario commerce-friendly air!

Will he become RiverTrain man?

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Ando

Will he become RiverTrain man?

Nah, Cobourg's on a lake, Laketrainman should do!

[bomberjet]

CN and CP carry about the same through Winnipeg on a daily basis. Closer to 100, but really, who cares.

[bomberjet]

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/View...onId=&InitUrl=

Report 8. The presentation shows a rendering of the site from on top of the parkade. Not sure how accurate it is. but gives a good sense of what the site will be.

[dmacc]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/View...onId=&InitUrl=

Report 8. The presentation shows a rendering of the site from on top of the parkade. Not sure how accurate it is. but gives a good sense of what the site will be.

I love the idea but wish we committed to a little more density and a little more height to the area.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by dmacc

I love the idea but wish we committed to a little more density and a little more height to the area.

I'm having a little trouble with it. I don't think anyone can say it looks great from a birds-eye perspective... looks kind of like a housing project, to be honest, with the buildings scattered around willy-nilly.

But then again, the market area at The Forks is not really spectacularly beautiful on its own, but it works nicely to create a wonderful environment at street level.