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[DCReid]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Some screen shots:

From the video and shots, seems like nothing is taller than 800 feet?

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by DCReid

From the video and shots, seems like nothing is taller than 800 feet?

Yea kinda lame, I think they are just placeholders though but it does give you an idea.

[NYguy]

https://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/d...r/western-yard

THE WESTERN YARD IS WHAT'S NEXT

Phase 2 of development at Hudson Yards is the Western Yard, occupying the area from 11th to 12th Avenues between West 30th and West 33rd Streets. Upon completion, the Western Yard will include approximately 6,220,000 square feet, incorporating several residential towers, an office complex and a school serving K-8th grade students.

OFFICE: 2,000,000 SF
RESIDENTIAL: 4,000,000 SF
RETAIL: 100,000 SF
SCHOOL: 120,000 SF

https://patch.com/new-york/midtown-n...d-phase-report

Swanky Hudson Yards Wants $1B In Federal Cash To Expand
The loan would fund the construction of a platform over the existing rail yard that would prop up more skyscraper developments.

By Brendan Krisel, Patch Staff
Feb 25, 2020

Hudson Yards builders are applying for a federal loan to finance the second phase of the west side neighborhood's development, according to reports.

Related Companies is partnering with Amtrak for a $1 billion loan through the federal government's Railroad Rehabilitation and Improvement Financing program, Politico New York first reported. Amtrak's partnership is necessary for Related to acquire money through the program, which requires that a railroad be involved with any project that receives funding, according to the report.

Funds from the load would be used to create a massive platform above the remaining exposed section of the west side rail yards atop which Hudson Yards is being built, Politico reported. Amtrak benefits from the agreement because Related is committing to build a stretch of the agency's planned Gateway Tunnel that will run beneath Hudson yards. Under the terms of the deal, Amtrak would pay Related $385 million for the infrastructure work but get some of that money back if Related secures the low-interest federal loan, Politco reported.

[Busy Bee]

Perhaps it was a tremendous oversight to not essentially create a concourse running from Penn all the way 11th ave.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Perhaps it was a tremendous oversight to not essentially create a concourse running from Penn all the way 11th ave.

You mean from Penn Station? No different than not having a concourse running from Penn Station to the rest of Manhattan. The best thing they can and will do (if 15 Penn is ever built) is to reopen that walkway between Penn and Herald Square. That way, both the PATH and additional subway lines will be connected to Penn Station.

There was however planning for pedestrian movement and circulation through the Hudson Yards area. It's where Moynihan and Manhattan West come in...








Captured nicely through this Manhattan West animation...


• Video Link

[Visionist]

If the High Line will have 700' of wall on its eastern side, couldn't they cantilever the structure above and alongside where the platform meets the High Line and incorporate retail beneath, all along the High Line itself? I wonder if that would make financial as well as structural sense.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Visionist

If the High Line will have 700' of wall on its eastern side, couldn't they cantilever the structure above and alongside where the platform meets the High Line and incorporate retail beneath, all along the High Line itself? I wonder if that would make financial as well as structural sense.

The wall was to be along the south and western edges. What they really need to do, and never talk about, is build a connection from the High Line to Hudson River Park.



https://gothamist.com/news/hudson-ya...adow-high-line

Hudson Yards Developer Denies Planning A Wall That Would Overshadow The High Line

BY ELIZABETH KIM
JAN. 15, 2020

Responding to mounting outrage that followed a recent report in the NY Times, the developer of Hudson Yards has denied they are pursuing plans to build a wall along the High Line -- even as one Chelsea community board member says "preliminary drawings" were shown to him as well as several representatives from City Council Speaker Corey Johnson's office.

[mrnyc]

well that doesn't look like a wall. maybe they are backpedaling, but whatever.

kind of surprized at the waste of space between the railyard property and the highline in that render.

looks like a gap there between them.

i had thought they were supposed to abut each other with open access points?

so even though views are kept, the western yard community is still walled off from the public in a sense.

[Busy Bee]

This wall hysteria is just comical. Even if the storage yard cap did lead to the necessity for a likely very handsome wall next to the High Line it likely would have terraced and stepped down to meet it with grand staircases and interesting bridges. I'm likely to think that had there not been such a ridiculous pushback to the very notion the end product probably would have been a lot more architecturally intriguing that what will wind up being built.

[NYguy]

The issue with the High Line and the railyards is that the High Line is well above the railyards, but the western edge of the railyards is at street level. So like it or not, that “wall” covering the rails was always going to be there, and is still going to be there. The difference is a matter of perception. You can see in that last rendering, a slope towards the HL, but from the street you’ll still need access to get up to that park.

By the way, even though it’s not perceived as a wall, the southside of 15 Hudson may as well be...



https://www.archdaily.com/337960/dil...new-york-photo

[Visionist]

Future generations will have no idea of all those train lines under the complex. I can see some lame Di$ney movie showing wide eyed brats uncovering an alien civilization under there or something equally inane.

I'm sure that trash flick will make a billion Dollars.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Visionist

Future generations will have no idea of all those train lines under the complex. I can see some lame Di$ney movie showing wide eyed brats uncovering an alien civilization under there or something equally inane.

I'm sure that trash flick will make a billion Dollars.

Just consider all of the buildings built around and north of Grand Central. Nobody thinks of those as being above a railyard, but that's exactly what they are. We'll get an opening into that when 270 Park is demolished.

[SkyHigher]

I don't see much excitement just a group of shiny buildings thrown together. It desperately needed that Hudson Spire.

[TowerDude]

That truck trailer parking lot on 34th south of Javits should be turned into a lawn for the High Line.

[chris08876]

Its a shame Javits couldn't be relocated or maybe even modified to build a top of it. The foot print is quite massive, and that could of been like a mini Hudson Yards light

From 34th to 40th parallel to 11th/12th... huge opportunity and a ton of land in theory. With the renovation/expansion of Javits, its highly unlikely, but would of been a good prospect.

There's a Manhattan Mini Storage within the area that should be replaced as well IMO.

[TowerDude]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Its a shame Javits couldn't be relocated or maybe even modified to build a top of it. The foot print is quite massive, and that could of been like a mini Hudson Yards light

From 34th to 40th parallel to 11th/12th... huge opportunity and a ton of land in theory. With the renovation/expansion of Javits, its highly unlikely, but would of been a good prospect.

There's a Manhattan Mini Storage within the area that should be replaced as well IMO.

Javits is the perfect height already for anything that close to the river. Skylines should taper towards the water.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by SkyHigher

I don't see much excitement just a group of shiny buildings thrown together. It desperately needed that Hudson Spire.

The Hudson Spire was never a part of the railyards plan, and wouldn't have been shown in that rendering.

Originally Posted by DCReid

From the video and shots, seems like nothing is taller than 800 feet?

Originally Posted by Zapatan

Yea kinda lame, I think they are just placeholders though but it does give you an idea.

That's exactly what they are, and have been around for at least 5 years. If and when we see actual proposals for the sites, keep in mind that, just like the first phase, the designs will vary before anything is actually built. It's pretty much this...

Originally Posted by TowerDude

That truck trailer parking lot on 34th south of Javits should be turned into a lawn for the High Line.

The truck yards is currently in the process of being removed.
https://market.javitscenter.com/new-...javits-center/

The state will then bid that land out for redevelopment.

[TowerDude]

Yeah and they should be developed into a lawn.

[Hudson11]

Screw Robert Moses. That is all

[Visionist]

Hands off my truck yard, lawn enthusiasts!

That's where the Megatall is going!