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Old Posted Apr 17, 2017, 3:42 PM
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Yeah, I kind of figured it was a silly question to ask after I posted it. Apples to oranges. haha.
I don't think it was a silly question.

I imagine the Vista Tower was and is a harder job engineering-wise than the super tall slender towers in NYC.

The Vista is one of a kind in many ways -- how many supertalls have a surface road going through them?

Whereas once you've built one very slender super tall, building, you would find building a second more straightforward as you'd be able to learn from your mistakes.
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^^^ Yeah, the needles in NYC are basically a giant stick made of rebar and concrete with a counterweight on top. It's really just a game of "how thick do we make the sheer walls and columns". Vista's massing is much more complicated and probably opens up an array of different wind loading or other challenges. The road, while somewhat complicating, is really not any different than a parking garage though, it's structurally the same as the garage floors around and below it. It's no more than a public passageway through a parking garage.

What I was referring to when I say they dig down in NYC is that they first have to clear down to the rock and then usually blast down into the rock a little bit to make a basement or garage.
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On that note, here's the entrance off Lowest Wacker, taken Saturday 4/15. The existing column most likely marks the new median.

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Having all of that room at Upper Wacker for staging is a luxury you won't likely find in Manhattan as well- or any place else in the heart of an urban core, for that matter.
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Having all of that room at Upper Wacker for staging is a luxury you won't likely find in Manhattan as well- or any place else in the heart of an urban core, for that matter.
And since their not using Gems 2 for staging or deliveries anymore I would have to think that project is going to get going sooner than later. No? It would be awesome to see three cranes working in that space.
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Nice shots guys!
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Went to my first Wanda property in Shanghai last night. Nothing much to report but damn..big. Almost all the stores in the mall portion was food. World's biggest kid's ball pit too..
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Those parking garge slabs are kind of small aren't they? Maybe I just dont have a good perspective. At 345 parking spaces there has got to be a crap ton of floors of parking on the east side of the project. Anyone got a floor count for the garage?
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Quick Snaps of Vista and OBP


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^they anchor to the concrete deck below and will now rise with each successive deck pour. This was the first floor there was enough structure underneath to use them.
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nice perspective^
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I was going to ask if they got the permits to build the floor plates above the first story (upper Wacker) but it looks like that has been answered!
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^Actually word on the street is that they are still waiting for the permit to go vertical. I heard the current permit allows the deck to be poured to the first floor (even with Upper Wacker Drive) and the cores to be poured +3 floors above Upper Wacker. Sounds like the full permit is imminent, so it should not delay construction.
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An expressway ran through it ....

the old path of Lake Sore Drive.
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Any thoughts as to what the vertical "tan" steel tower, in front of the core, is? Down on ground level there was something similar to this and the word was it was going to be self climbing (just like a tower crane) base for a arm for pumping concrete. But the core right behind this a pumping station, so I doubt there would two so close together.
This build has had some good 'mysteries' and its still got 90++ floors to go.
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^They're both concrete pump towers. The one in question will assist in the floor slab pours.
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^Actually word on the street is that they are still waiting for the permit to go vertical. I heard the current permit allows the deck to be poured to the first floor (even with Upper Wacker Drive) and the cores to be poured +3 floors above Upper Wacker. Sounds like the full permit is imminent, so it should not delay construction.
The easiest way to find these things out is to go to the Chicago Department of Buildings website...

Check the status of the permit...

Type in the address...

This is what's been approved as of the end of January: 363 E WACKER DR
Description: DIRECT DEVELOPER SERVICES: (FIVE LEVELS ABOVE UPPER WACKER DRIVE) FOR PROPOSED 95-STORY BUILDING. SLAB FOUNDATION ISSUED UNDER #100658570, AND CAISSON FOUNDATION ISSUED UNDER #100633738


And this...Description:
DIRECT DEVELOPER SERVICES: CONSTRUCTION AND BUILD-OUT OF LEVEL 1 TO LEVEL 95 OF PROPOSED 95-STORY MIXED USE BUILDING

Application Review Summary
Name Completed Date Status
PLANNING REVIEW 2017-05-05 APPROVED
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW 2017-05-02 APPROVED
ARCHITECTURAL & FIRE REVIEW 2017-05-02 APPROVED
LANDSCAPE REVIEW (ZONING) 2017-05-02 DENIED
REVENUE REVIEW 2017-04-19 APPROVED
PRELIMINARY INTAKE REVIEW 2017-03-27 APPROVED
ZONING REVIEW WAIVED
This permit has not yet been issued.
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