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[left of center]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Yeah, that worthless bloated trust-fund brat will win for sure.

I at least have hope for the AG race. Plus it would be nice to have a smoking hot AG

Erika Harold will probably offer a viable counterweight to a JB governorship, but I am pretty off put by her far right social ideology (very anti abortion, anti gay marriage, etc). Kwame Raoul on the other hand is essentially a Madigan puppet that hasn't mentioned fighting corruption once during his campaign (somehing this state has in abundance of). While voting is typically choosing the lesser of the two evils, they both seem equally bad in this case.

[the urban politician]

Looks like the spoiled fat fuck won.

Yay. Change has finally arrived....

[the urban politician]

Damn! Erika Harold lost too?

Oh God, Madigan is probably having such a blast right now.....

Now we’re stuck with Kwame “I’m just getting started” Raoul. I’m not even sure what he’s exactly “getting started” on. Shouldn’t he instead be saying “I’m about to finish fucking you all over” ?

Lol....

[ardecila]

At least with a Governor Pritzker, we might have a chance to get a few important pieces of infrastructure built in between the literal sacks of taxpayer money that Pritzker will dump on unions and other interest groups. I expect the Rockford/Dubuque and Quad Cities rail plans to get dusted off, maybe even something more ambitious. Here’s hoping JB’s infrastructure plan doesn’t include more absurd sprawlways like Illiana though.

[BonoboZill4]

Originally Posted by cozy

Oh wow these could be the best units if they have street entrances

I'd be very surprised if they had direct street entrances for any units for a building that is going to have so much retail.

Also, Chicago and State is about the worst intersection crime wise downtown, so I'd say those would be by far the worst units in the building

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4

Also, Chicago and State is about the worst intersection crime wise downtown, so I'd say those would be by far the worst units in the building

Is this based on actual data or are you just another person who equates feeling to objective data?

[Notyrview]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Is this based on actual data or are you just another person who equates feeling to objective data?

This has been an ongoing delusion here. Black school kids like to hang out at that corner but there’s no crime and the area is crawling with cops. Most criminal activity in downtown Chicago is white collar.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by Notyrview

This has been an ongoing delusion here. Black school kids like to hang out at that corner but there’s no crime and the area is crawling with cops. Most criminal activity in downtown Chicago is white collar.

I lived a few streets north of here for nearly a decade. There are some shady looking people hanging around sometimes but honest to god I barely witnessed any real crime there (I saw a guy choking his wife or girlfriend once but that was the most serious thing by far). After living there for nearly that decade, I equate it to a delusion as you have stated. Never once felt unsafe near there. Most of the people just hanging around really never bothered me ever.

I'd put a lot of money on Division Street having more crime than this area. I've witnessed a lot more crime there than Chicago/State.

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by Notyrview

This has been an ongoing delusion here. Black school kids like to hang out at that corner but there’s no crime and the area is crawling with cops. Most criminal activity in downtown Chicago is white collar.

I lived at Loyola's downtown campus for a year and can say there was never any serious crime there. It's probably a bit of a hotspot for ultra petty crimes, but it was usually someone getting caught trying to make a dash for the subway after snatching a purse or a smartphone usually over on Michigan and Chicago or a scuffle between a couple of drunk people. If anything it's the wealth on Michigan Ave attracting theives (or the giant groups of maurauding "Urban youths" that occasionally ransack corners of downtown) who then enter or exit the area through the nearest train stop. It's probably no different than the crime pattern you'd see at Grand. But yeah, there's no "criminal threat" posed by the panhandlers or McDonald's crowd you see loitering in the area. Welcome to the big city guys, sometimes there's "weird" people hanging out by the train...

[BonoboZill4]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Is this based on actual data or are you just another person who equates feeling to objective data?

Yeesh, I must have really peeved you off at some point with the tone in your responses to me lately. I say this because it's the only place someone has tried to mug me downtown, and that's happened three times. I feel safer at my girlfriend's house in Back of the Yards than at that intersection sometimes.

Also, practically every time I walk by there(which is frequent because my brother lives in the Gold Coast) I see police cars and police officers walking around. In general it's been the location of my worst experiences in Chicago, although in the last few years it hasn't been as bad. I don't really know where one would find good data on what intersection is the worst downtown, so yes I am technically basing this off my "feelings" if that includes personal experiences and those of my friends and family. I find experiences that have a recurring trend to be valid, but that's just me.

I do find it interesting how many people are disregarding "petty theft" as such a minimal thing. Getting mugged is not fun, and I regard it as a pretty serious crime on an individual. If it happens frequently in a location that shouldn't just be brushed away.

In fact, the more I think about it, most people I know agree Chicago and State is a place to avoid.

[emathias]

I thought mugging was considered armed or aggrevated robbery, not petty theft. Petty theft would be pickpocketing or burglary of something of minor value without interacting with the resident. Anything including violence generally turns it into a felony, which is hardly petty.

[left of center]

If there is one bright spot of a Pritzker governorship, its the legalization of marijuana. That will bring in hundreds of millions in taxes to the state (potentially closing the current budget deficit), both from the sin taxes on the marijuana products themselves as well as potential tourism dollars (sales tax, hotel taxes, airport landing fees, etc) from surrounding Midwestern states as people come to Chicago to try the legal weed.

Other than that, this could prove to be disastrous to the already sad state of Illinois's finances... assuming the new gov enacts all the social programs he has proposed but without finding ways to pay for them.

[the urban politician]

That McDonalds near there sure has a shady looking bathroom, though. I once went in there to pee and the urinal was.....a case study in social dysfunction, shall I say

[SIGSEGV]

Interesting, I've never perceived that intersection as unsafe. It gets a bit sketchier a few blocks west but I've never felt unsafe even late at night at Chicago and State.


On an unrelated note, I filed a graffiti removal request this morning for the first time (warning, racist language and symbolism): http://servicetracker.cityofchicago....ests/18-031060 Maybe some of Arthur Jones supporters are mad he lost? (Surprising he got 26% of the vote though. Seriously, what the fuck?). I guess racists are too stupid to get the parity of their symbolism right...

[LouisVanDerWright]

Ski Steve, I'd like to shred with ya and talk buildings, where's your home mountain?

[ski_steve]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Ski Steve, I'd like to shred with ya and talk buildings, where's your home mountain?

I'm from Utah originally. Haven't skied here yet- open to suggestions!

[Skyguy_7]

^Wilmot Mountain (Hill) is your nearest option and the best option we flat-landers have! Nice photo by the way.

This tower appears thin and soars like 432 Park Ave, but 10x more aesthetically appealing. Well done Mrs Gang!

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by ski_steve

I'm from Utah originally. Haven't skied here yet- open to suggestions!

hey there ski steve -- you can take an easy trip to cleveland to ski. its true lol! yes its flat there too, but the difference is we have big valleys. the cuyahoga valley national park is very beautiful in the winter and the skiing is great -- that's where i learned. it would certainly be a different sort of skiing experience for you!

https://www.bmbw.com/

bonus is the amazing metroparks chalet toboggan chutes -- it's a lot of winter fun too:

https://www.clevelandmetroparks.com/...es/tobogganing


and yes what an amazing photo!

[Steely Dan]

the best skiing within a 5 hour drive of chicago is rib mountain/granite peak up in Wausau, WI.

by no means is it remotely close to anything out west on real mountains, but with a total vertical drop of 700', it's definitely a giant step above the wilmots and alpine valleys of SE wisconsin.

the UP has some decent skiing as well. i've been to blackjack, indianhead, and big powderhorn and they're all pretty good and definitely better than anything in SE wisconsin too, but they're more in the 7 hour driving range, which gets AWFULLY long for a weekend ski trip.

mt. bohemia up at the tip of the keweenaw pennisula, with a 900' vertical, is famous for its back-country gladed runs through the trees and its 300 annual inches of lake superior snow, but i've never been there.

[LouisVanDerWright]

^^^ Powderhorn is great, Steely you should check out Brule with the family when they are all old enough, it's super family friendly. They have all sorts of warming huts and evening sleigh rides you can do to get the kids more into the idea of freezing your ass off and enjoying the outdoors in winter. Then, once you've tricked them into the idea of skiing, you take them to the Porcupine Mountains and subject them to -10 degree straightline winds off Lake Superior while riding the lift like my parents used to.

I'm also a big fan of White Cap which is one of the larger resorts by number of runs and terrain.

I'm hoping to get up to Bohemia this winter myself, I've never been, but supposedly it is some of the most advanced terrain between the Rockies and New England. Lot's of glade skiing with cliffs and bumps and like you said 300"+ a year of Lake Superior snow machine.