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Seems to be Blanchard's M.O. And that worked while the city was stagnating.

But his company (or 'ies') are behind the times. Unless the goal is to upsell and let someone else develop the properties they own. Which seems quite logical.
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At least I learned the city does a quarterly inspection of the building to assess the growing damage - the one building beside the one they demolished is starting to lean to the east and separating from the structure now that there is no building beside it to keep it stable.
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Oh wow, much larger site. Very interested to see who is behind this, as my understanding was that Blanchard does not own that parking lot.
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Longtime Gore Park development now envisions 32-storey tower above old facades
New pitch for mixed-use King Street East comes after many years of anticipation


The Hamilton Spectator
2 Sep 2023
TEVIAH MORO

A long-standing plan for a stretch of 19th-century landmarks at Gore Park that were to be incorporated into a new six-storey building has taken a turn.
Developers behind a longtime plan to incorporate heritage facades into a new building at Gore Park have come up with a loftier pitch.

Instead of six storeys, the consortium now proposes a 32-storey tower atop a five-storey podium, throwing a new twist into the decade-old project.

Hughson Business Space Corporation’s renewed vision for 18-22, 24 and 28 King St. E. still includes preservation of the old facades.

At first blush, the proposal appears to abide by the downtown secondary plan, city planning director Steve Robichaud told The Spectator.

It also ticks off the “three Hs: height, heritage and housing,” he said.

“We’re getting the intensification. We’re getting additional residential. We’re getting commercial and heritage preservation.”

The mixed-use proposal features 478 residential units, 4,372 square metres of commercial space and 426 parking spaces.

Robichaud noted the plan expands a “super block” toward Main Street East, where the city envisions more residential development to complement a plan to convert the busy thoroughfare to twoway traffic.

Markland Property Management said consortium representatives were “unable to comment at this time” on the new Gore Park proposal.

In 2013, the developers’ initial plan to completely demolish the buildings, which date to the 1840s and 1870s, sparked outrage from heritage advocates.

But in a last-minute move, city council spared them the wrecking ball by giving the facades heritage protection.

Ever since, it has been a work in progress, while the old buildings in downtown Hamilton’s signature park remained in a state of disarray.

In 2021, a heritage consultant noted one brick facade, No. 24, was too deteriorated to be saved but would be replicated.

Meanwhile, the pre-Confederation stone fronts of 18-22 were to be secured by a steel structure on-site while the rest of the work continued.

The plan for No. 28 was to dismantle the stone and later put it back into place.

The buildings are unfinished, boarded-up and behind fencing.

The project has active permits and the city is “monitoring the situation to ensure that it’s safe and it’s stable,” Robichaud noted.

The new application is to be discussed with city planners as part of formal consultation and put before Hamilton’s design review panel for feedback on Sept. 20.

Hughson Business Space Corporation’s new towering pitch echoes a flurry of development around Gore Park, including LIUNA’s twin highrises on the north side of King.

Just east, another effort to breathe new life into more-than-centuryold buildings — also with direct access to the park’s southern flank — is making progress.

Partner Patrick Bermingham said the two buildings, No. 62 and No. 64, will offer “prime office space” and a new eatery in the downtown.
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This actually looks pretty cool. Wonder if it will happen.
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This actually looks pretty cool. Wonder if it will happen.
The city should be doing everything in its power to approve this and get it started. Tax breaks, expedited approval on permitting, etc. This is exactly what the city needs in this area, retail/commercial/residential all in one package. If the city makes this difficult for the developer, it would be a total bonehead move.
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Longtime Gore Park development now envisions 32-storey tower above old facades
New pitch for mixed-use King Street East comes after many years of anticipation


The Hamilton Spectator
2 Sep 2023
TEVIAH MORO

A long-standing plan for a stretch of 19th-century landmarks at Gore Park that were to be incorporated into a new six-storey building has taken a turn.
Developers behind a longtime plan to incorporate heritage facades into a new building at Gore Park have come up with a loftier pitch.

Instead of six storeys, the consortium now proposes a 32-storey tower atop a five-storey podium, throwing a new twist into the decade-old project.

Hughson Business Space Corporation’s renewed vision for 18-22, 24 and 28 King St. E. still includes preservation of the old facades.

At first blush, the proposal appears to abide by the downtown secondary plan, city planning director Steve Robichaud told The Spectator.

It also ticks off the “three Hs: height, heritage and housing,” he said.

“We’re getting the intensification. We’re getting additional residential. We’re getting commercial and heritage preservation.”

The mixed-use proposal features 478 residential units, 4,372 square metres of commercial space and 426 parking spaces.

Robichaud noted the plan expands a “super block” toward Main Street East, where the city envisions more residential development to complement a plan to convert the busy thoroughfare to twoway traffic.

Markland Property Management said consortium representatives were “unable to comment at this time” on the new Gore Park proposal.

In 2013, the developers’ initial plan to completely demolish the buildings, which date to the 1840s and 1870s, sparked outrage from heritage advocates.

But in a last-minute move, city council spared them the wrecking ball by giving the facades heritage protection.

Ever since, it has been a work in progress, while the old buildings in downtown Hamilton’s signature park remained in a state of disarray.

In 2021, a heritage consultant noted one brick facade, No. 24, was too deteriorated to be saved but would be replicated.

Meanwhile, the pre-Confederation stone fronts of 18-22 were to be secured by a steel structure on-site while the rest of the work continued.

The plan for No. 28 was to dismantle the stone and later put it back into place.

The buildings are unfinished, boarded-up and behind fencing.

The project has active permits and the city is “monitoring the situation to ensure that it’s safe and it’s stable,” Robichaud noted.

The new application is to be discussed with city planners as part of formal consultation and put before Hamilton’s design review panel for feedback on Sept. 20.

Hughson Business Space Corporation’s new towering pitch echoes a flurry of development around Gore Park, including LIUNA’s twin highrises on the north side of King.

Just east, another effort to breathe new life into more-than-centuryold buildings — also with direct access to the park’s southern flank — is making progress.

Partner Patrick Bermingham said the two buildings, No. 62 and No. 64, will offer “prime office space” and a new eatery in the downtown.
Hughson Business Space Corporation - I was not aware this business had changed hands as I thought wilson blanchard still owned it, and none of us expected much as a result..

I am actually VERY pleased with this - yes don't all have a heart attack at once, as I have always felt the back end and side gaps in this block SORELY needed not only some buildings, but also some HEIGHT. THIS is the area of downdown that NEEDS to be big, as everything around it is big. I also like that it is stepped back, and the height is near the back, so that shadows won't harm the park.

I also am pleased that the city is keeping such a critical eye on this - making it so parts have to be retained and other parts have to be replicated. I also love their 3 h's - height, heritage and housing. I like that vision. I don't mind height if it is in a proper place and I of course am all about bringing people living back in the core and heritage preservation. The great thing about the core is it has changed relatively little in 200 years, and it would be nice to keep as much of that timelessness as we can

I am really excited to see something go into the back area - as I often take the bus along this route - it will also be nice to have the bank building closed in and for this area to feel like a proper "block" once more

Overall pretty excited for this! I hope they really clean that stone, although as evidenced by the royal connaught cleaning it sadly does not keep it clean looking for long, one of the detriments of stone, it stains easily..

Only thing I may be critical of is what designs they plan for the side along james and the side along main - we can't see the main side design and the james st side is too small to see - I sincerely hope it has a heritage look and is not ultra-modern, although they could possibly get away with it because it will be right beside the corner skyscraper.. I like that that area of james is still relatively highly heritage looking, and hopefully they will be pressured to maintain that, although the bank across the street makes that a bit open ended..

also a little worried why they put the bank on the corner in red.. I hope they are not planning to demolish it.. because they are NOT, and I repeat NOT allowed to remove ANY of those types of buildings - the old bank buildings are off limits. > : (

..or are they building on TOP of it..? Hrmm.. I wish I had more renders and bigger pictures..

also of course we shall see if this ACTUALLY gets built - it has been a decade.. I am also surprised they are keeping the building roof on the left in the image as a 'green" roof - I would have expected they would have capitulated on any surface are they could to build height..

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Hughson Business Space Corporation - I was not aware this business had changed hands as I thought wilson blanchard still owned it, and none of us expected much as a result.
He still owns it!

From a search at "Dun & Bradstreet, Inc"

Hughson Business Space Corp
Key Principal: David Blanchard, Director
4 Hughson St S Suite 801
Hamilton, ON, L8N 3Z1

As far as I can find, he is the only principal of the company.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the city gives them a hard time about the shadows it may cast, and forces them to reduce the height a bit. Looking forward to seeing the shadow study when the DRP documents are posted.

Perhaps Ritsman can follow up with the city to ask for the DRP stuff.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the city gives them a hard time about the shadows it may cast, and forces them to reduce the height a bit. Looking forward to seeing the shadow study when the DRP documents are posted.

Perhaps Ritsman can follow up with the city to ask for the DRP stuff.
I THINK it may be ok simply because it's set so far back.. but yes the trees directly in gore park are naturally going to be a talking point for this.. I would be very curious to see the shadow studies myself - I mean, I could probably just do a mock shadow study as any other 30 story development can probably be overlaid onto the plot to see but yeah we shall see..

I mean you can see the shadow of the main tower just even in the picture and it barely covers the next "step" so I have a feeling they stepped it with that in mind..
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The real question is who is behind Hughson Business Space Corp.
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Looking at a shadow study for a building of similar height - it will cast a shadow onto Gore Park in the afternoon, even with the setback. 173 Jackson is a good reference, casting a shadow onto Main Street. I wouldn't be surprised if the city forces them down to 20 floors. We'll see I guess.
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Looking at a shadow study for a building of similar height - it will cast a shadow onto Gore Park in the afternoon, even with the setback. 173 Jackson is a good reference, casting a shadow onto Main Street. I wouldn't be surprised if the city forces them down to 20 floors. We'll see I guess.
Or makes it so each floor has to step back to a sorta right angle style design..

and interesting, so david blanchard made an independent company to do this? This is the first time I have ever heard of this company..
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Developers almost always create holding corporations for individual projects. Often they leave them as numbered corporations or come up with creative names like “75 James Street South Inc.” or some extent. It limits liability to the main development corporation in the case a project doesn’t do well.
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What is Markland Property Management's involvement here?
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Markland owns 1 Main St E, which doesn’t look like it’s part of the project. Maybe they also own the parking lot next to it, which is?
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Holy hell I never saw this coming!? I totally love what I'm seeing here. I can't wait to see detailed renders and get more information.
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This one is tricky, as I see three towers. One is the restoration, and five or six storeys addition on top. The second tower I see faces James St, which looks about 15 storeys. The third tower is the tallest one facing Main St, 32 storeys.

Until we get some more information, I'll leave the title as:

18-30 King St East | ? | 5 fl | Approved -> 18-30 King St East | ? | 32 fl | Proposed
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This one is tricky, as I see three towers. One is the restoration, and five or six storeys addition on top. The second tower I see faces James St, which looks about 15 storeys. The third tower is the tallest one facing Main St, 32 storeys.

Until we get some more information, I'll leave the title as:

18-30 King St East | ? | 5 fl | Approved -> 18-30 King St East | ? | 32 fl | Proposed
It looks like it's all connected. It's a 32-storey building with a ~15 and ~12 storey podium component.
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Yeah it looks to me like the tower will have a Main Street east address. The 15 storey
mid-rise a James street address and the restoration, a king st address. I hope to see details soon but I won’t hold my breath.
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