Proposed Winnipeg Water Park

[khabibulin]

"Short of offending anyone, I must say that 50, 000 sq feet for a water park falls short of being ‘world class.’ So much so that after a quick search I have found almost two dozen water parks that are larger than this proposal in Canada alone."

Hey Chris,

I appreciate your passion and dedication to voicing your opinion on this issue. I would caution you about two things:

I do not believe there are two dozen indoor waterparks bigger than this proposal in Canada. I believe there are only three bigger indoor waterparks in Canada at this point. Sending messages to elected officials that contain inaccurate or misleading information will harm the accuracy of the rest of your message. (The indoor stadium proposal for Regina suffered from this problem).

Second, as you have been remined by others, it is very important to maintain proper decorum in your communications with elected officials. Once there is any indication of malicious and rude comments, the staffers of these officials are ususlly instructed to delete/destroy these messages rather than bringing them to the officials attention. (comments like, Katz GTFO, will guarantee a non response because it is clear that a fair and balanced discourse will be impossible to have).

Anyway, good luck with your campaign.

[chrisallard5454]

Originally Posted by khabibulin

"Short of offending anyone, I must say that 50, 000 sq feet for a water park falls short of being ‘world class.’ So much so that after a quick search I have found almost two dozen water parks that are larger than this proposal in Canada alone."

Hey Chris,

I appreciate your passion and dedication to voicing your opinion on this issue. I would caution you about two things:

I do not believe there are two dozen indoor waterparks bigger than this proposal in Canada. I believe there are only three bigger indoor waterparks in Canada at this point. Sending messages to elected officials that contain inaccurate or misleading information will harm the accuracy of the rest of your message. (The indoor stadium proposal for Regina suffered from this problem).

Second, as you have been remined by others, it is very important to maintain proper decorum in your communications with elected officials. Once there is any indication of malicious and rude comments, the staffers of these officials are ususlly instructed to delete/destroy these messages rather than bringing them to the officials attention. (comments like, Katz GTFO, will guarantee a non response because it is clear that a fair and balanced discourse will be impossible to have).

Anyway, good luck with your campaign.

I realized that after I posted the email, When I looked up indoor water parks on google it directed me to Water Parks in general not just indoor water parks.

[JamieDavid Exchange]

Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

I realized that after I posted the email, When I looked up indoor water parks on google it directed me to Water Parks in general not just indoor water parks.

Dude, you just need to calm down. I'm one of the 'inhabitants' that lives in the neighborhood, and if the project looks like a Super 8 motel, count me in your petition. BUT, lets all just wait for the renderings.




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[chrisallard5454]

I for one am all for a public protest against this water park. What about a public petition involving the inhabitants living in the involved neighbourhoods?

[headhorse]

We need a protest against this entire process. It is undemocratic and should be stopped.

[chrisallard5454]

Originally Posted by headhorse

We need a protest against this entire process. It is undemocratic and should be stopped.

I would really like to know what these other agreements are that the EPC is bound by.

[1ajs]

theres agreements the lock counclers to voting in packs WTF?

[headhorse]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

theres agreements the lock counclers to voting in packs WTF?

after he replied I said

Dear Councillor,



Thank you for your reply and I, and many others, are glad you are voting against this project. What are these agreements other councillors are bound to?



Thanks,

Cody

and then got this from Ross:

Political trade offs of which I know nothing about as I am not allowed to attend those sessions.

great to see our city council working together for the citizens of Winnipeg.

[Jeff]

I know it's wikipedia, but my wise Ottawa-based aunt recently told me:"I love the idea of a beautiful museum in Wnnipeg, but the Museum of Civilisation took 10 years to build here too!" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadia...f_Civilization

"In response to criticisms that "Museum of Man" could be interpreted as gender-biased in light of modern sensibilities, a competition was launched in 1986 to find a new name. The National Museum of Man became the Canadian Museum of Civilization. In 1989, the museum moved in to the new facility. At the time of its opening, the cost of the museum had ballooned from an initial estimate of approximately $80 million to approximately $340 million. Despite initial criticisms of the perceived Disneyfication of the museum, its enormous costs, unique architecture, and unfinished exhibits from many quarters (including the Conservative government of Brian Mulroney), the museum soon became a major tourist attraction and was embraced by different political factions as a national symbol of "a pluralistic, multicultural society."[17] The museum attracts over 1.3 million visitors per year, making it Canada's most-visited museum."

[Lenin]

I think I'm going to sit down and write a respectable, polite essay in regards to this project. I know others have, and now it's my turn; if I am happy with my work then I shall submit it to various media outlets.

I attempted this once before [you can view my short piece above; it's on Page 5 or something of this thread] but the piece wound up being inflammatory and caustic. I found it difficult to reign in my emotion, so that effort turned into a more of a humour piece, complete with angry language and references to Natalie Portman. Obviously I didn't send it to the Free Press or anything.

Hopefully this time I will create something more accessible, palatable, and family friendly. If this occurs then I will spread it around and hope somebody bites. I wish I could conjure up some other way to express how I feel about this and politely scream at the politicians involved, but I guess for now a passionate letter will have to suffice....

[isaidso]

You people must love water parks. This thread is only 2 days old and its on post #108 already.

[Reed Solomon]

Originally Posted by isaidso

you people must love water parks boondoggles. This thread is only 2 days old and its on post #108 already.

ftfy

[trebor204]

Paula Havixbeck (city councillor - Charleswood) was on CJOB during the 9am newscast. (Check the Audio Vault) There was talk about having more than 1 waterpark, and more proposals could be coming down the pipe.

[trebor204]

Originally Posted by trebor204

Paula Havixbeck (city councillor - Charleswood) was on CJOB during the 9am newscast. (Check the Audio Vault) There was talk about having more than 1 waterpark, and more proposals could be coming down the pipe.

Yep,

http://metronews.ca/news/winnipeg/10...-gets-epc-nod/

Global Winnipeg is reporting a second waterpark and hotel complex is in the works in south Winnipeg – while a first is still winding its way through city council.

Quoting anonymous sources, Global Winnipeg said the hotel and waterpark complex will be built during the second phase of the Seasons of Tuxedo retail development starting in 2014. It’s the same development that is seeing an IKEA, Cabela’s and Lowe’s store being built.

[spiritedenergy]

75 millions is a lot, surely not stucco... also if it's a hotel, it's very good for the area... that lot is so close to the railway, living there it would be not very comfortable

[Biff]

Originally Posted by spiritedenergy

75 millions is a lot, surely not stucco... also if it's a hotel, it's very good for the area... that lot is so close to the railway, living there it would be not very comfortable

Look at my post earlier in this thread where I estimated the breakdown of the budget. Because there is 2phases the estimate for the hotel-phase 1 will probably be between $15 & $20 million. Not really a cutting edge budget.


.......sorry for the grammar - booze and a iPad make typing tough.

[khabibulin]

Originally Posted by Biff

Look at my post earlier in this thread where I estimated the breakdown of the budget. Because there is 2phases the estimate for the hotel-phase 1 will probably be between $15 & $20 million. Not really a cutting edge budget.


.......sorry for the grammar - booze and a iPad make typing tough.

When I asked for opinions on the Inn at the Forks, someone posted that it was appropriate for the area as a 140 room boutique hotel and cost $16 million to construct. If the proposed budget for phase 1 is $15 to $20 million for a 125 room hotel, you would think someting of similar quality as the Inn at the Forks would be built.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by khabibulin

When I asked for opinions on the Inn at the Forks, someone posted that it was appropriate for the area as a 140 room boutique hotel and cost $16 million to construct. If the proposed budget for phase 1 is $15 to $20 million for a 125 room hotel, you would think someting of similar quality as the Inn at the Forks would be built.

Good comparison and good point. I forgot the budget for the Inn at the Forks.

[chrisallard5454]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opi...147483045.html

[chrisallard5454]

At least one good thing will come from this fiasco. We can without a doubt be sure that Mr. Katz will not be in office for another term.