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Old Posted Oct 20, 2014, 9:09 PM
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Yeah Toronto has so many huge tall tower PROPOSALS but when it comes to something concrete... there's not much on the horizon. After One Bloor East gets built up, that's the end of the fun until one of these tall proposals makes it to the other side of going into sales/ construction.

We have the Mirvish towers (900ft, 1000ft) which everyone on the inside believes will never get off the ground, then there's the Oxford project which most people see as a long term vision (10-20 years in the future) which will likely be altered, our office tower proposals are mounting... Union Centre (780ft), 156 Front (870ft), 45 Bay (833ft) are all awaiting tenants and could easily be 5-10, maybe even 15 years down the road. It's always hard to say with commercial towers because they can be downsized quite easily, and given Toronto's commercial boom in the last 7 years, there's not exactly a huge amount of companies lining up to headline a 1 million+ square foot tower. There's the rumours on One Bloor West monster but that's in the planning stages, and probably is still 1-2 years away from even being proposed. We have Cityplace Signature Towers at 710ft and 810ft but given the cheap design of those, many prefer they don't get built. What's left? There's One Yonge... a cluster of 5 towers that faces high chance of height reductions from council and even so is still probably 5+ years away from starting construction. Holts Tower seems stalled, and has been downsized from 910 to 750ft.

So I just hope some of these projects come out of the darkness of the "proposed" world and into a realistic chance of being constructed. After 1 Bloor and the taller Harbour Plaza twin, there's no more 750ft+ towers going ahead in TO. Do you guys think there will be a tower/s that could start construction in the next 4-5 years that will be in this category?
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2014, 9:17 PM
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So I just hope some of these projects come out of the darkness of the "proposed" world and into a realistic chance of being constructed. After 1 Bloor and the taller Harbour Plaza twin, there's no more 750ft+ towers going ahead in TO. Do you guys think there will be a tower/s that could start construction in the next 4-5 years that will be in this category?
You are only talking about "already proposed" towers... do you really think that no new buildings will be proposed in the near future? Ones we haven't yet heard about? Plenty of towers now U/C were proposed less than 5 years ago.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2014, 9:24 PM
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Yeah Toronto has so many huge tall tower PROPOSALS but when it comes to something concrete... there's not much on the horizon. After One Bloor East gets built up, that's the end of the fun until one of these tall proposals makes it to the other side of going into sales/ construction.

We have the Mirvish towers (900ft, 1000ft) which everyone on the inside believes will never get off the ground, then there's the Oxford project which most people see as a long term vision (10-20 years in the future) which will likely be altered, our office tower proposals are mounting... Union Centre (780ft), 156 Front (870ft), 45 Bay (833ft) are all awaiting tenants and could easily be 5-10, maybe even 15 years down the road. It's always hard to say with commercial towers because they can be downsized quite easily, and given Toronto's commercial boom in the last 7 years, there's not exactly a huge amount of companies lining up to headline a 1 million+ square foot tower. There's the rumours on One Bloor West monster but that's in the planning stages, and probably is still 1-2 years away from even being proposed. We have Cityplace Signature Towers at 710ft and 810ft but given the cheap design of those, many prefer they don't get built. What's left? There's One Yonge... a cluster of 5 towers that faces high chance of height reductions from council and even so is still probably 5+ years away from starting construction. Holts Tower seems stalled, and has been downsized from 910 to 750ft.

So I just hope some of these projects come out of the darkness of the "proposed" world and into a realistic chance of being constructed. After 1 Bloor and the taller Harbour Plaza twin, there's no more 750ft+ towers going ahead in TO. Do you guys think there will be a tower/s that could start construction in the next 4-5 years that will be in this category?
Everything seems stalled until it's not. Just a few weeks ago, 592 Sherbourne, Pinnacle Adelaide II and 501 Yonge all seem stalled, and now suddenly they're "The Selby Condos", "PJ Condos" and "TeaHouse Condos" respectively, and are ramping up their marketing and sales.

Condo sales have picked up again in recent months and so have project launches (e.g. The Selby Condos, PJ Condos, Residences of 488 University Avenue, TeaHouse Condos), so I wouldn't be shocked to see some of the 200+ metre condo projects begin sales sooner rather than later. Don't forget that both 50 Bloor West and 27 Yorkville have been approved already.

I'm also guessing that one of 156 Front, Union Centre and 45 Bay will start sometime next year. Rumours are that there's a big bank looking for space and all three are probably contending for it. 45 Bay probably has the edge as they've already got the deal with the bus terminal in place.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2014, 9:42 PM
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5 years is a long time. The city has been shut down since early August because of the election. We could easily see a tall proposal that hasn't been talked about in January. Less than a 1000, 750 footers in the entire world that have broken ground. It's not the end of the world if the tallest under construction in the city falls below that mark.


As others have stated, we have a good shot at an office tower and I would throw 50 Bloor into the pot too.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2014, 9:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure 45 Bay (830ft ++) will start some prep work before the end of the year. Full Excavation next year, because the Bus Terminal is built first, and I'm pretty sure of the 3 big office towers, it almost assured to go ahead, with a client on board as well.

Of course, if I had a say, 156 Front would be the choice.
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^^ That would be something! ^^
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2014, 1:28 AM
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It looks like the New York Times building would have been Calgary's tallest.

I would consider this a fantasy skyline.
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Any renderings for Vancouver?

Seems like the only renderings popping up are for Toronto and Calgary, which are both going to have very impressive skylines in the coming years.

Doesn't seem like downtown Vancouver has changed much in the last 2 or 3 years
Hopefully more projects will be announced in the next few years. I doubt it though.
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Any renderings for Vancouver?

Seems like the only renderings popping up are for Toronto and Calgary, which are both going to have very impressive skylines in the coming years.

Doesn't seem like downtown Vancouver has changed much in the last 2 or 3 years
Hopefully more projects will be announced in the next few years. I doubt it though.
There is actually quite a bit going on all around Downtown, Downtown South seeing the biggest change. Lots of False Creek skyline impacting projects underway in there and hopefully someone skilled would provide us with a future rendering.
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Any renderings for Vancouver?

Dleung did this one a few weeks ago:


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Old Posted Oct 30, 2014, 1:43 AM
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This should also give one some idea of the future. Taken from West End community plan, so it only includes plans for that area and not for other parts of Downtown and Yaletown. Many of those towers are in 150-220 meter ballpark.

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Old Posted Oct 30, 2014, 3:38 AM
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A lot more going on than I thought!

Seems like the peninsula has filled out enough now that any new building requires the demolition of another reasonably sized building.
I wonder what will happen when the area fills out completely with mid to high rises some day far down the road. It can't be worth it to knock down a 30 story building to build a 50 story building.. Can it?

I wonder which areas bordering downtown would build up first... Perhaps they'll redevelop some of the area around Terminal Avenue.
I guess this situation is far enough down the road that it isn't really even being considered yet.
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I tried watching that show, being both set in Canada and having a sci-fi theme and all, but I finally gave up after almost two seasons. It just isn't interesting.
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2014, 4:57 PM
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I tried watching that show, being both set in Canada and having a sci-fi theme and all, but I finally gave up after almost two seasons. It just isn't interesting.
It's not too bad and one of the rare shows where Vancouver is really playing Vancouver and not New York or some other American city. It is entertaining show when you are a local, spotting so many locations they use.
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Massing models of the proposed City Centre towers (105 m and 87 m), our first and second new tallest, if built:

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I made some massing models. These will NOT represent the visual at all, but should be semi-accurate in terms of impact on the skyline.

From University Bridge


From Broadway Bridge


Again, not at all representative of the look of the buildings, but should be fairly accurate to the impact on the skyline.

And it will completely change the skyline.
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Teaser for the newest C-A-D render.

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Well, I'm not really done with this image, as I still have to add Parkside, the 7 tower proposal, update Concord and finish the east village (not shown), but this is what I posted on Twitter last night, so I hope you all like it.

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