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[tdawg]

there must be almost 10 buildings over 1000 feet either seriously proposed or under construction right now in NYC. Can any city save Dubai claim this? Maybe Hong Kong, Shanghai?

[Alliance]

Originally Posted by tdawg

there must be almost 10 buildings over 1000 feet either seriously proposed or under construction right now in NYC. Can any city save Dubai claim this? Maybe Hong Kong, Shanghai?

Chicago.

[charmedone]

Originally Posted by Alliance

Chicago.

it wont hold it for long u guys only have the sears tower the aon center AT&T Corporate Center and the johnhancock center that have hights 1000 feet and over.


for now we have the empire state building the new york times tower and the Chrysler Building but the Bank of America Tower is almost done so that will make it 4 and if you include the Condé Nast Building (Four Times Square)antenna, that makes it 5 so that is more then chicago

and once the freedom tower and 200 Greenwich Street and 175 Greenwich Street are complted we will have more buildings over 1000 ft.

but chicago will hold the record for haveing more then one building over 100 floors with the chicago spire and the propossed Waldorf-Astoria Hotel and Residence Tower and also the sears tower and the johnhancock center

were as new york will only have the empire state building and the freedom tower unless anything else is proposed that has 100 floors or more

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by charmedone

it wont hold it for long u guys only have the sears tower the aon center AT&T Corporate Center and the johnhancock center


for now we have the empire statie building the new york times tower and the Chrysler Building but the Bank of America Tower is almost done so that will make it 4 and if you include the Condé Nast Building (Four Times Square)antenna, that makes it 5 so that more then chicago and once the freedom tower and 200 Greenwich Street and175 Greenwich Street are compalted we will ahve more buildings over 1000 ft and thats just a few

Your walking into the snake pit saying that.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Dac150

Your walking into the snake pit saying that.

Be wary of posters with single digit post counts, as its obviously some troll looking for trouble. No sane person begins posting in the forum with ridiculous comments, its usually someone who's a member already.

[CoolCzech]

Originally Posted by tdawg

there must be almost 10 buildings over 1000 feet either seriously proposed or under construction right now in NYC.

And this is just the beginning.


As the entire Westside development plays out... watch out!

[CoolCzech]

OH OH, here comes Steely Dan to put out the latest New York vs. Chicago outbreak!!!

Don't Tase Me, Bro!

OOOWWWWWW!!!!!

[tdawg]

I meant under construction and proposed only. I believe NYC has more 1000+ proposals on the table right now, three at the WTC alone, two on far west side, BofA and NYTimes that come to mind immediately.

[Alliance]

Originally Posted by tdawg

I meant under construction and proposed only. I believe NYC has more 1000+ proposals on the table right now, three at the WTC alone, two on far west side, BofA and NYTimes that come to mind immediately.

Kind of. Things are done differently in Chicago than New York. We don't really make threads for things we don't have very official confirmation of (ie that we have renders and a serious propoal) as opposed to "this lot was sold and this developer wants to build something.

If we used the New York system, we would have three more proposal-rumors. These would include Pelli's Wolf Proposal, Smith's Franklin Proposal, and Smith's Zero Energy tower. These being the ones that have gotten some press. There should be other serous rumos as well (somone like Pandemonious of Bvic would know), I'm just not in the Loop enough(fig and lit ) to know.

I think both cities are doing very well right now and bringing some great new quality to the table.

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by Alliance

I think both cities are doing very well right now and bringing some great new quality to the table.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Alliance

Kind of. Things are done differently in Chicago than New York. We don't really make threads for things we don't have very official confirmation of (ie that we have renders and a serious propoal) as opposed to "this lot was sold and this developer wants to build something.

If we used the New York system, we would have three more proposal-rumors.

Keep your "Chicago system" in Chicago. New York could care less what threads you have or don't have. I can never understand Chicago forumn members obsession with constantly trying to stack up to New York. Be excited about what you have. Being Chicago doesn't mean you have to be New York.

[Dac150]

This will be the ultimate canyon entrance.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Dac150

This will be the ultimate canyon entrance.

BTW, the largest of those towers on 34th has yet to be revealed. Then there's the entire railyard development that has to be revealed as well. Who knows what the dominant tower will be?...

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by NYguy

BTW, the largest of those towers on 34th has yet to be revealed. Then there's the entire railyard development that has to be revealed as well. Who knows what the dominant tower will be?...

That's the beauty of those two towers (Sherwood not confirmed heightwise). They are just the tip of the iceburg of whats to come. Most cities would be happy to get just one of those buildings. For NYC their just the begining.

[CoolCzech]

Originally Posted by NYguy

BTW, the largest of those towers on 34th has yet to be revealed. Then there's the entire railyard development that has to be revealed as well. Who knows what the dominant tower will be?...

You gotta figure someone will grab for the chance to put up New York's forever tallest tower, a 2,000 footer. If they can't overcome NIMBY opposition in the middle of an abandoned railyard, than New York will never have a 2,000 footer anywhere.

[speedy1979]

Originally Posted by CoolCzech

You gotta figure someone will grab for the chance to put up New York's forever tallest tower, a 2,000 footer. If they can't overcome NIMBY opposition in the middle of an abandoned railyard, than New York will never have a 2,000 footer anywhere.

I agree they should combine the two buildings into one then add an architectural top. We need a 2000 footer.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by CoolCzech

You gotta figure someone will grab for the chance to put up New York's forever tallest tower, a 2,000 footer. If they can't overcome NIMBY opposition in the middle of an abandoned railyard, than New York will never have a 2,000 footer anywhere.

LOL, that's probably true. That's probably the least populated area of Manhattan. But anything over 1,300 ft likely would have to be residential. Office towers aren't really built that high anymore. Unless, maybe a half & half tower, with residences at the top (the Girasole comes to mind).

[tdawg]

avoiding a city vs city, there's no denying that New York is at least growing, having added a million people since 1990 (the city, not the metro). These people will need places to work and live, and land is scarce, so that means going up, up, up...

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by tdawg

avoiding a city vs city, there's no denying that New York is at least growing, having added a million people since 1990 (the city, not the metro). These people will need places to work and live, and land is scarce, so that means going up, up, up...

That was the thinking behind the Hudson Yards redevelopment. Things seem to be moving along faster than the 30-year-span thinking of the city. I guess we have to take into account that things will eventuall slow down for a couple of years (as they always do).

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by NYguy

I guess we have to take into account that things will eventuall slow down for a couple of years (as they always do).

The 1990's.