Statistics Canada Reports II - Page 114

Dalreg · #**2261** Posted **Sep 25, 2024, 10:31 PM**

Yay! Sleepy old Saskatchewan cracked 1.25 million!

ssiguy · #**2262** Posted **Sep 25, 2024, 11:05 PM**

Of all the provinces, BC's situation is the most precarious.

BC & Quebec are the only 2 provinces to have BOTH a negative intra-provincial loss as well as a negative birth/death rate. What's more, BC IP loss is more than twice that of Quebec and it's birth/death rate is 3 times as large. I don't see this changing anytime soon as BC has the lowest birth rate in the country of child bearing years {ie lots of seniors doesn't make any difference} and the latest mother's age of her first born as well.

If PP decides to REALLY reduce immigration levels of all types, which I can see as he has stated very clearly that immigration levels will be tied to housing, BC could potentially see itself in an effective zero growth rate scenario. This kind of no or slow growth would crush the BC economy as it is far more dependent, by a long shot, upon housing for it's economic growth than any other province.

BlackDog204 · #**2263** Posted **Sep 26, 2024, 4:06 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Canada has surpassed 41.75M souls.

42M by the new year???

I am now starting to see the very negative effects of the rapid population gain. Is there any way we can deport 750,000 people, and leave it at 41 million even.

harls · #**2264** Posted **Sep 26, 2024, 4:19 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

I am now starting to see the very negative effects of the rapid population gain. Is there any way we can deport 750,000 people, and leave it at 41 million even.

Holey moley..

1overcosc · #**2265** Posted **Sep 26, 2024, 2:24 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

I am now starting to see the very negative effects of the rapid population gain. Is there any way we can deport 750,000 people, and leave it at 41 million even.

Cur down on the number of permits issued for TFWs and foreign students and take a tougher approach to dubious asylum claims. That will naturally cut down on the temporary population over time.

IMO, we need a "population freeze" - net migration brought down to a level allowing zero growth in the population for a few years. We need to catch up.

BlackDog204 · #**2266** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 12:49 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

Cur down on the number of permits issued for TFWs and foreign students and take a tougher approach to dubious asylum claims. That will naturally cut down on the temporary population over time.

IMO, we need a "population freeze" - net migration brought down to a level allowing zero growth in the population for a few years. We need to catch up.

Im starting to question the sanity of people who still think bringing in 3.5 million ppl in 3 yearsin great for Canada. Housing, schools, infrastructure, civic resources, etc.is being severley taxed, and its the working class and poor who are suffering.

Beedok · #**2267** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 11:20 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

I am now starting to see the very negative effects of the rapid population gain. Is there any way we can deport 750,000 people, and leave it at 41 million even.

Sure, we deport everyone who says we need to start deporting people, since they'll be the group happiest to have it happen to them.

MolsonExport · #**2268** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 1:09 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

I am now starting to see the very negative effects of the rapid population gain. Is there any way we can deport 750,000 people, and leave it at 41 million even.

Acajack · #**2269** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 1:24 PM**

Does anyone, regardless of political persuasion, seriously think that anyone will be deported from Canada in the foreseeable future? Irrespective of the colour of our government?

MolsonExport · #**2270** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 1:26 PM**

^no, but down South, if the Dumpster Fire gets back in, I suspect it will happen, and it is most unfortunate that his hateful rhetoric has evidently found a lot of sympathetic ears up in Canada.

I'm for calling out people that advocate for mass deportations.

I mean, didn't this awful thing happen a few centuries ago, in Acadia?

Acajack · #**2271** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 1:40 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

^no, but down South, if the Dumpster Fire gets back in, I suspect it will happen, and it is most unfortunate that his hateful rhetoric has evidently found a lot of sympathetic ears up in Canada.

I'm for calling out people that advocate for mass deportations.

I mean, didn't this awful thing happen a few centuries ago, in Acadia?

Seriously?

YOWetal · #**2272** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 1:46 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack

Does anyone, regardless of political persuasion, seriously think that anyone will be deported from Canada in the foreseeable future? Irrespective of the colour of our government?

I mean we do deport people now. 15000 in 2023. It's certainly possible we deport 10X that should people start to overstay and otherwise merit it being done.

The vast majority of people told to leave probably won't wait for that order but will leave. Not being able to work is much more limiting in Canada than in the US.

MonctonianSentinel01 · #**2273** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 1:57 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

^no, but down South, if the Dumpster Fire gets back in, I suspect it will happen, and it is most unfortunate that his hateful rhetoric has evidently found a lot of sympathetic ears up in Canada.

I'm for calling out people that advocate for mass deportations.

I mean, didn't this awful thing happen a few centuries ago, in Acadia?

I don't really understand why deporting them is considered cruel when they snuck in illegally? I mean is that what they are supposed to do, just allow the whole world to come in? One world nation with no borders?

MonctonRad · #**2274** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 1:58 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack

Seriously?

I think what Acajack means is that the Acadians prefer to think of the Grand Derangement as a genocide rather than a simple deportation.

Acajack · #**2275** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 2:00 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I think what Acajack means is that the Acadians prefer to think of the Grand Derangement as a genocide rather than a simple deportation.

Note that I am not the one who brought it up. (And not the one who constantly brings it up.)

MonctonRad · #**2276** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 2:15 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack

Note that I am not the one who brought it up. (And not the one who constantly brings it up.)

Point taken.

And FWIW, my own personal opinion is that the deportation was a tragic event, negatively affecting many people, and changed the trajectory of Maritime history, but, given the geopolitical context of the times, was understandable.

An understandable tragedy with victims, but, the perpetrators (perhaps with a couple of exceptions) were not monsters.

The whole period from 1755-1783 in North America was unstable and monumental, and resulted in the geopolitical reality we all live in now (for better or worse)

It was a very interesting time.

Acajack · #**2277** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 2:16 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Point taken.

And FWIW, my own personal opinion is that the deportation was a tragic event, negatively affecting many people, and changed the trajectory of Maritime history, but, given the geopolitical context of the times, was understandable.

An understandable tragedy with victims, but, the perpetrators (perhaps with a couple of exceptions) were not monsters.

The whole period from 1755-1783 in North America was unstable and monumental, and resulted in the geopolitical reality we all live in now (for better or worse)

It was a very interesting time.

Since I've been drawn into the discussion, my personal view is that it was more an episode of ethnic cleansing than genocide.

MonctonRad · #**2278** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 2:33 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack

Since I've been drawn into the discussion, my personal view is that it was more an episode of ethnic cleansing than genocide.

I won't dispute that there was indeed a component of ethnic cleansing (thanks Governor Lawrence), but, this did not occur in isolation and without provocation (thanks Father LeLoutre).

Acajack · #**2279** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 2:42 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I won't dispute that there was indeed a component of ethnic cleansing (thanks Governor Lawrence), but, this did not occur in isolation and without provocation (thanks Father LeLoutre).

People (or powers) that commit ethnic cleansing or even genocide always see some type of justification for it in their own eyes.

kwoldtimer · #**2280** Posted **Sep 27, 2024, 3:10 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack

Does anyone, regardless of political persuasion, seriously think that anyone will be deported from Canada in the foreseeable future? Irrespective of the colour of our government?

People are deported all the time. If you mean a mass deportation, no, it won't and couldn't happen - we don't have the people, institutions, or money to deal with huge numbers of deportees. This means that a conversation must come as to what to do with the people who are undocumented or who have overstayed their visa (hence the balloon floated by the government a couple of months back).