OKLAHOMA CITY | Legends Tower | 1,907 FT | 134 FLOORS | VISION

[CTroyMathis]

After being submitted to the FAA 5 months ago, it finally made it to Interim status as of yesterday. Just an FYI.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...14791391&row=0

[Zapatan]

Ha nice, official looking. This thread title should say proposed and not vision btw.

[HFAA Alum]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

Ha nice, official looking. This thread title should say proposed and not vision btw.

Apparently, it's been in and out of the two titles. Guess site mods are equally skeptical as they are optimistic.

[Urbannizer]

https://journalrecord.com/2024/09/br...-deal-permits/

OKLAHOMA CITY — Construction was expected to begin this summer on the Bricktown development that includes plans for the tallest building in the U.S., but the developer has yet to get the building permits needed to start.

The real estate and financial transactions have not been finalized for The Boardwalk at Bricktown project, Kenton Tsoodle, president and CEO of The Alliance for Economic Development of Oklahoma City, said Wednesday.

“It’s a slow process,” Tsoodle said. “Everyone’s reporting things are moving along.”

Matteson Capital in Newport Beach, California, plans to build hundreds of apartments, a hotel, multiple commercial spaces, public parking and the 1,907-foot skyscraper on three-quarters of one city block at Reno and Oklahoma avenues.

The project site currently is surface parking controlled by developer Randy Hogan.

The land transaction has not closed yet, and financing for the first phase of the $1.6 billion development involves various pieces and an “army of lawyers,” Tsoodle said.

“There’s no holdup on the city’s side,” he said.

[Zapatan]

IIRC the smaller towers are to be built first then the big one.

Not holding my breath for this but delays aren't abnormal for any project.

[pianowizard]

I was in OKC a couple days ago and took this photo of the skyline from my motel:



The Devon Tower is 844 ft, which already seems needlessly tall. It's hard to imagine adding something that's 2.26 times that height.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by pianowizard

The Devon Tower is 844 ft, which already seems needlessly tall. It's hard to imagine adding something that's 2.26 times that height.

Other towers would ideally follow.

I think once there (if built) it would look more normal. Kind of like Burj Khalifa when first built (before the boom) or how Kingdom Tower in Saudi Arabia all alone.

[Craxo]

According to Wikipedia (such a trustworthy source), the groundbreaking commenced yesterday.
"Construction commenced after the groundbreaking ceremony [on] October 23, 2024."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...osed_buildings

[mhays]

I'll speak for the general contractor world: A "groundbreaking" has little if anything to do with starting a project.

Starting with the smaller buildings does seem to make it more reasonable. I just don't think the big tower makes any sense, or has any chance unless a billionaire decides to donate half the cost (or is delusional).

We can have fun with this. If the main tower hits 1,000 feet in this decade, I'll stand on the corner of Reno & Oklahoma at noon on the following October 24 and hand $500 to the first person who tells me I'm a moron.

[Urbannizer]

Originally Posted by Craxo

According to Wikipedia (such a trustworthy source), the groundbreaking commenced yesterday.
"Construction commenced after the groundbreaking ceremony [on] October 23, 2024."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...osed_buildings

No word of this on OKC Talk nor local news outlets….

The development team has launched a generic website in the meantime:

https://mattesoncapital.com/

[pianowizard]

Originally Posted by Craxo

According to Wikipedia (such a trustworthy source), the groundbreaking commenced yesterday.
"Construction commenced after the groundbreaking ceremony [on] October 23, 2024."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...osed_buildings

"in October 23, 2024" instead of "on October 23, 2024" reminds me of those phishing emails full of typos and grammatical errors. I searched for "groundbreaking" and "Legends Tower" on both Google and Bing and neither found anything from the past week.

[BnaBreaker]

Originally Posted by Urbannizer

No word of this on OKC Talk nor local news outlets….

The development team has launched a generic website in the meantime:

https://mattesoncapital.com/

Ah, so they finally realized that if they want to keep the ruse going a bit longer they might actually need a rudimentary website to give them some semblance of legitimacy.

[NYguy]

I had forgotten about this. At the very least, they should provide some real renderings.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by pianowizard

"in October 23, 2024" instead of "on October 23, 2024" reminds me of those phishing emails full of typos and grammatical errors. I searched for "groundbreaking" and "Legends Tower" on both Google and Bing and neither found anything from the past week.

We don't know if someone involved with the project wrote that though, anyone could put a minor typo on Wikipedia.

It could be possible that the smaller high-rises broke ground?

Ah, so they finally realized that if they want to keep the ruse going a bit longer they might actually need a rudimentary website to give them some semblance of legitimacy.

It definitely needs improvement from a performance perspective but doesn't look that bad other than the fact that it's a little cheap looking.

I wonder if this guy really was involved in those projects in Miami and San Diego, that would give him some legitimacy.


I'm really tempted to send them an email and ask what the status is lol

Or someone should.




While I agree this does have an air of illegitimacy surrounding it I think people are hating it just as much because it's ambitious.

Who were the architects behind this if any? Is that information known?

[UrbanImpact]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

We don't know if someone involved with the project wrote that though, anyone could put a minor typo on Wikipedia.

It could be possible that the smaller high-rises broke ground?




It definitely needs improvement from a performance perspective but doesn't look that bad other than the fact that it's a little cheap looking.

I wonder if this guy really was involved in those projects in Miami and San Diego, that would give him some legitimacy.


I'm really tempted to send them an email and ask what the status is lol

Or someone should.




While I agree this does have an air of illegitimacy surrounding it I think people are hating it just as much because it's ambitious.

Who were the architects behind this if any? Is that information known?

People aren't hating it, but rather think it's silly as there's no way to successfully recoup the cost of building such a building in this location. Hence why there aren't many buildings worldwide built at that height as it doesn't make financial sense.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by UrbanImpact

People aren't hating it, but rather think it's silly as there's no way to successfully recoup the cost of building such a building in this location. Hence why there aren't many buildings worldwide built at that height as it doesn't make financial sense.

Obviously it would be a vanity project but there's nothing really wrong with that IMO.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by UrbanImpact

People aren't hating it, but rather think it's silly as there's no way to successfully recoup the cost of building such a building in this location. Hence why there aren't many buildings worldwide built at that height as it doesn't make financial sense.

They 1000% are hating it

[CTroyMathis]

The taller tower is still in Circularization status with the FAA. It'll be a while before that phase is complete and any final determination made.

Also of note, the shorter towers never even received a final determination by the FAA. In all fairness, they are of lesser concern at the moment than the taller one anyway. However, they are still in a Work In Progress status.

[Urbannizer]

Originally Posted by UrbanImpact

People aren't hating it, but rather think it's silly as there's no way to successfully recoup the cost of building such a building in this location. Hence why there aren't many buildings worldwide built at that height as it doesn't make financial sense.

To add to why others find this 'proposal' silly, Scot Matteson has no reputable background to pull this off. He claims to be a partner in Miami WorldCenter, but nothing out there proves so.

He said he had 40 years of experience in property, but was criticised by the industry website The Real Deal for his “opaque background”. Neither of his companies mentioned in his press release have websites and emails to Centurion Partners, the firm promoted on his LinkedIn page, bounce back.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-wo...ntry-gg6zcpwps

This guy is just serving up a load of bologna.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by Urbannizer

To add to why others find this 'proposal' silly, Scot Matteson has no reputable background to pull this off. He claims to be a partner in Miami WorldCenter, but nothing out there proves so.

What would prove so? Is there proof that he was lying and not part of the project?

I'm not saying you're wrong just there's nothing that proves otherwise either.