US METROS with the largest job growth

[ChiND]

https://www.bls.gov/regions/southeas...ment_miami.htm

[Gantz]

Great results for Miami and Philly.

[ChiND]

Originally Posted by Gantz

Great results for Miami and Philly.

Yes. Miami added a lot of hotel and restaurant jobs.

[Crawford]

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't have expected Miami at #3 and Philly at #5.

And I wouldn't expect Houston well ahead of Dallas.

What's going on in Chicago? I know its economy is far from gangbusters, but those are some weak numbers for a metro of essentially 10 million.

[3rd&Brown]

The Philly forumers have been well aware of this for a while, but the metro has been outperforming the nation by a long shot since the end of the pandemic. We've certainly been outperforming ourselves relative to our own historical patterns.

Most of the good news has been clouded by the bogus claims about population loss (within city proper, which I'm dubious of).

But jobs, wages, and population for the region are outperforming many areas even in the sunbelt. Income in city proper, adjusted for inflation, is the highest it's been since 1979. Poverty continues to drop in a meaningful manner. Unemployment is at record lows for the state, far better than the national average (which has not been the case historically) and even better when just focused on SE PA.

It's mostly just good news and it's been that way for a while. It feels like the city is healing, tbh.

[DCReid]

Originally Posted by ChiND

Yes. Miami added a lot of hotel and restaurant jobs.

Actually, might be some truth. Read of many NY restaurants opening locations in south FL over the past 1-2 years.

[Centropolis]

St. Louis pushing 33,000 new jobs year over year. At first I thought I was misunderstanding the data - looking at other comparable cities, cities like Austin (which was considerably less), and much larger ones like Chicago placing it between Boston and Atlanta on the above graph.


https://www.bls.gov/regions/mountain...ry_stlouis.pdf

https://www.stlpr.org/economy-busine...pulation-grows

[JoninATX]

Originally Posted by Centropolis

St. Louis pushing 33,000 new jobs year over year. At first I thought I was misunderstanding the data - looking at other comparable cities, cities like Austin (which was considerably less), and much larger ones like Chicago placing it between Boston and Atlanta on the above graph.


https://www.bls.gov/regions/mountain...ry_stlouis.pdf

https://www.stlpr.org/economy-busine...pulation-grows

That's good to hear. Hopefully the city can turn around it's population decline. Cities like San Antonio are fastly approaching St. Louis in metro population.

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by JoninATX

That's good to hear. Hopefully the city can turn around it's population decline. Cities like San Antonio are fastly approaching St. Louis in metro population.

If we are comparing apples to apples (City of San Antonio is well over 1 Million - the equivalent jurisdiction for St. Louis would be St. Louis City + County combined once again) Metro St. Louis hasn't declined in population decade over decade per official US Census since 1980 but 1.2% growth (most recent official number) isn't enough to prevent being taken over by an entire slew of cities.

[PhillyRising]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

The Philly forumers have been well aware of this for a while, but the metro has been outperforming the nation by a long shot since the end of the pandemic. We've certainly been outperforming ourselves relative to our own historical patterns.

Most of the good news has been clouded by the bogus claims about population loss (within city proper, which I'm dubious of).

But jobs, wages, and population for the region are outperforming many areas even in the sunbelt. Income in city proper, adjusted for inflation, is the highest it's been since 1979. Poverty continues to drop in a meaningful manner. Unemployment is at record lows for the state, far better than the national average (which has not been the case historically) and even better when just focused on SE PA.

It's mostly just good news and it's been that way for a while. It feels like the city is healing, tbh.

Metro Philly is indeed alive and well. A great region to live and work!

[jayden]

So much for NYC being over since covid!1111

[goat314]

Originally Posted by Centropolis

If we are comparing apples to apples (City of San Antonio is well over 1 Million - the equivalent jurisdiction for St. Louis would be St. Louis City + County combined once again) Metro St. Louis hasn't declined in population decade over decade per official US Census since 1980 but 1.2% growth (most recent official number) isn't enough to prevent being taken over by an entire slew of cities.

I know a lot of local organizations, universities, and companies are pushing for heavy immigration to the metro area over the next few years. Apparently, St. Louis also added like 30k foreign born people between 2022-2023 alone. At that rate, I wouldn't be surprised if St. Louis has noticeably different demographics by the 2030 census. I could see the St. Louis metro growing more like Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Columbus in the next few decades if trends continue. Nothing like the major growth of Texas or Florida growth, but a healthy growth rate for a mature metro like St. Louis.

[DCReid]

Originally Posted by goat314

I know a lot of local organizations, universities, and companies are pushing for heavy immigration to the metro area over the next few years. Apparently, St. Louis also added like 30k foreign born people between 2022-2023 alone. At that rate, I wouldn't be surprised if St. Louis has noticeably different demographics by the 2030 census. I could see the St. Louis metro growing more like Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Columbus in the next few decades if trends continue. Nothing like the major growth of Texas or Florida growth, but a healthy growth rate for a mature metro like St. Louis.

Makes sense to me. You could speculate that it may start to grow more like its state metro rival, Kansas City, which has seen steady growth like the cities you mentioned. However, the US metro stats per the US Census and in Wiki estimate a 1% decline in the metro from 2020 to 2023 versus a 1% increase for KC metro at that time. San Antonio metro will most certainly pass St Louis in population by 2030, and Austin metro may very well pass it also even if it has slowed down. St L metro already has been passed by Orlando and Charlotte metros by 2030 per the estimates.

[meh]

^ okay, but year over year census estimates are basically worthless at the 1% level and Centropolis clearly stated "decade over decade per official US Census". i wish STL City would challenge recent estimates as Detroit has done, because the amount of development on the ground does not reflect the estimated decline.