Quebec, the French Language, and Quebecois Identity

[Acajack]

Oh it’s definitely used. It just sounds very franchouillard to us. Not a problem of course.

[New Brisavoine]

Talking of 'franchouillard' things, only last week I've found out your ministry of justice still used the term "plumitif", a word which has been unused in France since 1790. I found that super odd and antiquated. In parenthesis, it shows that some terms and concepts were passed over the generations despite the British conquest. This is certainly not a French term that would have been re-introduced in Québec from France when French Canada affirmed itself more in the 19th and 20th centuries, as it had stopped being used in France since the French Revolution.

[harls]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

What's the wrong answer?

You wanted to know what it was called in Québec, this is the answer.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Acajack

People in Quebec are familiar with the French term “portable” but it sounds out of place here like “mobile (phone)” sounds out of place and Britishy in Anglo North America.

I still hear people refer to them as "mobile"s now and again, though usually it's when filling out some kind of form that wants your cell number.

[MonctonRad]

I think our resident agitateur et agent provocateur metropolitain would appreciate this video.

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It points out that English is nothing more than poorly pronounced French (and how we all should be grateful for this fact).

It would appear that all those conquering Norman warlords were just as insufferable as the apocryphal fat English salesladies were in downtown Montreal department stores.

[kool maudit]

English is such a shaggy mutt.

We are in the stage where animals and their names are a big aspect of parenting, and one thing I have noticed is that where the Swedish word isn't cognate with the English one, like katt-cat, it's often cognate with either a slightly older word (hund-hound) or an archaic one, as in kanin-coney (rabbit) or valp-whelp (puppy).

[kool maudit]

(and of course, the Normans, while French in one sense, were Norsemen in another)

[kool maudit]

I will always have enormous respect for those Count St-Germain types who can move flawlessly from English to French to German to Spanish to Italian. But while I will never join their ranks, I do realize now that I have some fluency in two Germanic languages and a Romance one that there are links and shortcuts littered throughout the European tongues.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

(and of course, the Normans, while French in one sense, were Norsemen in another)

Yes, the presenter made this point quite clearly, and how this influenced Norman French pronunciation as apposed to the pronunciation found in isle de France. This in turn made English pronunciation of words of French origin quite different from standard french.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

English is such a shaggy mutt.

Yes, the bastard tongue that rules the world.

No wonder the French hate the English language so much. Just the sound of the language must be quite jarring to their delicate ears. And, it must rot their gut that this ill conceived child could have risen to such global dominance.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

English is such a shaggy mutt.

We are in the stage where animals and their names are a big aspect of parenting, and one thing I have noticed is that where the Swedish word isn't cognate with the English one, like katt-cat, it's often cognate with either a slightly older word (hund-hound) or an archaic one, as in kanin-coney (rabbit) or valp-whelp (puppy).

And, like other mutts, much healthier than many purebreds.

[MolsonExport]

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[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

And, like other mutts, much healthier than many purebreds.