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Old Posted Aug 23, 2024, 5:07 PM
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Zoning is an issue sometimes, but Chicago's bigger problems are high interest rates, high construction costs and inconsistent demand. It's tough to make things pencil.
A Minneapolis developer was just discussing this issue. Labor costs and Interest rates have stalled construction in many cities.

If Chicago gets at least modest mid-rise construction this decade, that will be a success story.

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Rents in Minneapolis need to grow 15-20% to justify the cost of new construction.

You won't see many new buildings in the city until that happens.

Not an opinion. Just math
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Will be minimal. Labor up so much that any material savings won't help a ton. Maybe we get to 3-5% max
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Agreed. And yes, anything they can do to help on the cost side helps.

If costs went down 10% and rates come down to 4%, we'd only need 9-10% rent growth.


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Old Posted Aug 23, 2024, 5:46 PM
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also any end user (owner of a tower or a home) is going to be stuck with a 2% annual property tax in Chicago, which combined with the cost of capital and the cost of materials and the cost of labor.... it adds up.
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Kind of tailing off the construction cost thing. Construction costs have skyrocketed, and while it’s coming down a bit, they are still elevated. Part of the issue at least is that on the public side things are still very busy due to the influx of Covid money and the infrastructure bill. While great for the construction industry as a whole it’s not typical for when we see interest rate increases. In my opinion these costs won’t come down until more of that public money dries up, which we could be starting to see in the near future.
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or, y’know, we could give work permits to all those venezuelan migrants so they can start earning a living.
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I’ve wondered what held this up for so long. They’ve been “working” on this for a few years now and there’s only recently been progress.
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