[Moncton] Riverview Developments

[Bishop2047]

Originally Posted by new kid in town

I imagine such projects would involve local and provincial funding? Would it include federal?

The reason I'm asking is from what I know, Fredericton also having issues about needing a 3rd bridge? Not sure being the provincial capital gives Freddy some priority (and yet still can't make it), or whether Moncton's rapid growth and economic pull might help us get the 3rd bridge first?

Or maybe these are only tangential and the deciding factors are entirely different, I'm happy to be educated on the matter.

Wish I could get more (and up to date) stats: In 2019, the Westmorland Street Bridge saw about 52,000 vehicles a day, and the Princess Margaret Bridge about 21,500. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...idge-1.7065115

Trying to find some stats for the Moncton Region. Perhaps others will have more luck.

[lirette]

Originally Posted by Bishop2047

Wish I could get more (and up to date) stats: In 2019, the Westmorland Street Bridge saw about 52,000 vehicles a day, and the Princess Margaret Bridge about 21,500. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...idge-1.7065115

Trying to find some stats for the Moncton Region. Perhaps others will have more luck.

I found this

In 2018, the province estimated about 27,500 vehicles cross the causeway daily, while about 26,500 vehicles cross the Gunningsville Bridge.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by lirette

In 2018, the province estimated about 27,500 vehicles cross the causeway daily, while about 26,500 vehicles cross the Gunningsville Bridge.

Yes, congestion is not the issue, convenience is.

Between the two bridges, we have eight lanes of traffic between Moncton and Riverview. There are only seven lanes between Halifax and Dartmouth.

Where congestion arises is on the Moncton side after traffic is dumped downtown from the Gunningsville Bridge. There it mixes with traffic on the north side of the river, which can be problematic, especially along Main/Champlain between Moncton and Dieppe.

This is where an eastern bypass might be helpful, especially for traffic just interested in getting from the eastern end of the metro area to east end Riverview (including summertime tourism traffic).

I freely admit that traffic problems are more acute in Fredericton, and, that they should get their third bridge before us.

[Taeolas]

Fredericton and Moncton's 3rd bridge issues are very similar. Both cities have 2 bridges, but the main problem is that one of their bridges basically dumps the traffic right into a dense core that has a hard time handling the volume. Freddy's issues with Westemoreland feel a bit more dire, since we have a Freeway shooting right into the core, whereas Moncton's more core adjacent; but the situations still feel very similar.

Freddy's 3rd bridge is certainly going to need at least Provincial support, since I think both the 105 and the old TCH (where we figure it will link up) are both provincial highways I think; and a big project like that would certainly need provincial help. I doubt we'll need Federal help aside from generic road programs, which may be a good thing considering the direction the governments are going in. With Higgs and Trudeau both probably on the outs, we're likely going to get a more pro-bridge Provincial government, but support from the Feds will likely be a tough sell.

[new kid in town]

Thanks for the amazing inputs guys. The vehicle stats are a brilliant metric, but all we have right now are pre-pandemic stats. I have to wonder how much Moncton's has increased in the last 6 years (considering the population growth between circa '22-'23 alone outstrips growth for 2 decades, was it?)

[jonny golden]

The thing about traffic congestion is that it's getting worse. I've really noticed it in Riverview on Coverdale & Hillsborough Roads - the "main drag". As time goes by, even more people/cars will be added to the mix.

In the east end of town, MoeMar is building like crazy with more apartment buildings coming on line in the future.

In central Riverview, there are numerous apartment buildings currently under construction including the large ICON development, with more planned for the future.

The Gunningsville bridge will continue dumping traffic into downtown Moncton at an increasing rate. I don't know when it will happen, but eventually a 3rd crossing will absolutely be needed.

[MonctonRad]

ICON is already pouring the foundation of the first building in this complex:



They are most definitely not wasting time. They remind me of Lafford, when he first started on the Three Sisters project. This gives me a lot of confidence that the Infinity Tower will also proceed as quickly as possible as well.

[Conorth]

Riverview is getting $4.9m under the Housing Accelerator Fund:

https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/media-ne...ster-riverview

[jonny golden]

ICON is off to a fast start on their first apartment building. It's no wonder - I drove by the site tonight and they were still working at 8:36 PM!

I also see some activity has started on the land where they're building this one (a block from the ICON site) https://www.townofriverview.ca/sites...pac_report.pdf

And just a bit farther up Pine Glen, site prep has started for 2 more buildings. This will be the 3rd & 4th in this development, the first two having just been completed.

And there's a lot more than these ones planned or currently under construction in this same area of town.

[jonny golden]

The first two of these buildings came on line recently and if they aren't completely leased, they will be soon as the parking lot looks almost full. I noticed today that site prep is well under way for the next two buildings which should be starting soon.

They've also cleared the trees from a lot on the corner of Pine Glen & Pinewood for another apartment building, and the big ICON project is practically across the street from it. I've noticed that ICON is going flat out on their 1st of three 6 floor buildings with substantial progress on the foundation work.

And a stones throw away on Cleveland Avenue they're working on another 4 storey apartment building.

Quite a cluster in close proximity. With so many more people moving in, you'd have to think that we'll see more commercial/retail coming to Findlay Park.

[habs33]

Riverview adjacent news. The owner of Rocco's Cucina in Hillsborough announced they are selling the restaurant and the building.
Rocco's Cucina

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by habs33

Riverview adjacent news. The owner of Rocco's Cucina in Hillsborough announced they are selling the restaurant and the building.
Rocco's Cucina

Very sad news.

I was once privy to information (but sworn to secrecy) that, back when The Current by Thrive was still a thing, that Rocco was exploring the possibility of moving his business to Riverview and setting up shop on the ground level podium of The Current. I imagine he thought that there would be increased exposure and customer convenience to such a move.

I never had a chance to try out the restaurant, but apparently the food there was legendary.

[josh_cat_eyes]

I know Rocco personally, I used to play in a band with him. He is a solid guy, one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet. This is really sad. He stated that a lot of economic conditions lead to this decision. I’d love to see him open up something a little closer to Moncton. Perhaps that could help ease the burden a little bit.

[jonny golden]

If Rocco was planning to set up in The Current had it been built, I wonder if he'd consider a move to Riverview in another location? Maybe up in the Findlay Park area of town.

[Nashe]

Rats. I've been meaning to try Rocco's as I've heard nothing but praise for it. It's just kinda out-of-the-way in Hillsborough that we're never there at meal-time (and it's a bit of a haul at dinner). If he was closer to town (or in it), I'm sure he'd do well, though I'd imagine that would be more expensive too.

[josh_cat_eyes]

He has stated they are staying open while they try to sell. There is still time to give it a try.

[DoctorNick]

I would recommend a drive down to try it before it sells, it is some of the best Italian food I have ever tried.

[mylesmalley]

Another thumbs up for Rocco's from me. My wife and I have had their food a couple of times and have always been impressed.

[MonctonRad]

Update from Rocco:

Potential shift in our operation procedure.

We're exploring new ways to adapt and thrive, ensuring we can continue serving you during this time with excellence.

Flexibility and innovation are key, and we're open to new opportunities. If you're a potential partner or angel investor who shares our passion for delivering exceptional dining experiences, let's connect!

We're embracing change and looking forward to this new chapter. Thank you for your continued support and loyalty.

So, the demise of Rocco's Cucina may be a little premature. If a partner or investor can be found, the business may continue, perhaps in another form or in another location. This is potentially good news.

I suggest that Rocco should seriously look at relocation to Riverview or Moncton. They seem to have a devoted following, and if the food is as good as rumoured, I'm sure they could have a prosperous future if located a little more centrally in the CMA.

[jonny golden]

I suggest that Rocco should seriously look at relocation to Riverview or Moncton.

If they were considering moving into The Current, maybe they'll resurrect the idea of moving to Riverview - closer to more customers. It makes sense from a business standpoint.