[Moncton] East (Harrisville, Lewisville, Tankville, Irishtown) Developments

[MonctonRad]

Moncton city council has agreed to spend $620,000 for a new roundabout on Marriott Drive.

I believe this is for the west end of Marriott, beyond the Fairfield Inn, where Marriott will connect with the subdivision currently under construction.

[MonctonRad]

Developer wants to get started on Eastgate Village project
Developer says section of Elmwood Drive must be upgraded before subdivision can reach its goal of 952 housing units
Author of the article:Alan Cochrane
Published Jul 16, 2024 • Last updated 5 hours ago • 3 minute read
https://tj.news/moncton-miramichi/de...illage-project (paywall)

(Eastgate Village) was approved in late 2022 but came back to council Monday night with several changes including stormwater drainage and a crosswalk to the Irishtown Nature Park. The changes were approved by council, with another public hearing set for Aug. 19.

the section of Elmwood Drive from the highway intersection to Cormier Avenue needs to be upgraded and widened with new sidewalks, but that won’t happen until the city receives funding support from both the federal and provincial governments.

The developer indicated the first phase (142 units) could probably proceed at any time, but, the full build-out to 952 units will require upgraded infrastructure, including the widening of Elmwood Drive and new sidewalks.

[MonctonRad]

Small 18 unit apartment building planned for Curry Street in the Sunny Brae neighbourhood, next to the ruins of the old round skating arena on the marsh.

https://www5.moncton.ca/docs/pac/PAC...lic_Notice.pdf

Document contains a rendering.

[Feneant]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

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The developer indicated the first phase (142 units) could probably proceed at any time, but, the full build-out to 952 units will require upgraded infrastructure, including the widening of Elmwood Drive and new sidewalks.

What a vague quote that is... are we to assume they will only proceed once the city obtains provincial/federal funding and widens Elmwood, or will they begin before on a smaller scale?

Elmwood certainly could use being widened, more people walk to the city than ever and not a day goes by that I don't see some pedestrians when driving to town. It could be difficult to widen it and retain room for bikes, cars, a sidewalk and not encroach too far up on lawns for some of these houses so that they may have to widen both sides using the existing easement or space that falls outside of the property lines.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Feneant

What a vague quote that is... are we to assume they will only proceed once the city obtains provincial/federal funding and widens Elmwood, or will they begin before on a smaller scale?

They can proceed with phase one at the developers discretion.

Full build out will require a number of issues to be addressed, including improved sewage infrastructure, a retention pond, widening of Elmwood including new sidewalks, and, a new signalized intersection with Elmwood.

The major road work will need provincial and federal help in funding. Lord knows when that will happen..............

North Elmwood has already been upgraded. There is that weird forgotten section between the Needs convenience store and Granite Drive which was not touched. As you have pointed out, this deficiency needs to be addressed in any event.

[Riberview]

I recall the Mayor and some councilors being opposed to this development. The redrawing of boundaries or something to that effect.

I can see the same people being opposed to any widening or increasing infrastructure in this area, if only to pigeon hole the development into as small a project as possible.

Short sighted, yes. Spiteful, yes.

If the developer offered to pay for bike lanes on Elmwood, the Mayor would most certainly change her mind.

[mylesmalley]

The city has an area that is able to be serviced with infrastructure like water and sewer. There is also only so much capacity with existing infrastructure to service more development in an area without expensive upgrades. This development went to council to expand the city's serviceable area to accommodate it. A lot of new infrastructure is needed to handle this project if it's fully built out.

The argument is basically that there are a lot of areas in the city that are already able to handle big growth with the infrastructure in place. It'd be better to use that land first, rather than expand further at big expense.

[Manny2727]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Moncton city council has agreed to spend $620,000 for a new roundabout on Marriott Drive.

I believe this is for the west end of Marriott, beyond the Fairfield Inn, where Marriott will connect with the subdivision currently under construction.

did they mention where this roundabout would be going on marrriott drive?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Manny2727

did they mention where this roundabout would be going on marrriott drive?

I believe it will be on an extension of Marriott, where it will eventually connect with an extension of Camelot Dr.

It will be for traffic calming (although I doubt there will be too much traffic here anyway.

[MonctonRad]

Speculation over on Retail Talk & Share that the (now) former Great Canadian Dollar Store in the Elmwood Plaza will become either (yet another) Dollarama or a Giant Tiger.

If it was a choice between the two, I would prefer Giant Tiger.

Also, the small adjacent plaza that will contain Mary Brown's and/or Fat Bastards is delayed because of permitting issues. Once this is cleared up, construction will proceed.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Also, the small adjacent plaza that will contain Mary Brown's and/or Fat Bastards is delayed because of permitting issues.

It will be a Fat Bastards as there is a sign up in the parking lot saying that they are coming soon and/or there are franchise opportunities available.

[Buck17]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

It will be a Fat Bastards as there is a sign up in the parking lot saying that they are coming soon and/or there are franchise opportunities available.

That is for a new plaza being built in the parking lot. It will also have a Mary Browns.

[tmacdougall]

Significant Announcement.

Trapa Homes (Savoie/McCabe) plans for up to 15 new apartment (approx. 900 units) buildings and 24 townhouses near the end of Newcombe Dr. only a minute or two away from Ecole Champlain.

Starting modestly with a 3-storey, 36 unit building but must build a new 1.2km street before proceeding. Expectation is to 150 units per year.

[MonctonRad]

Good stuff. I presume this "1.2 km street" will be the planned connector through to Harrisville Blvd that was first proposed as part of the Humphrey Brook community development plan.

This would require municipal involvement (perhaps with a development charge). Where did you hear this? Do you have a link???

[adamuptownsj]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Good stuff. I presume this "1.2 km street" will be the planned connector through to Harrisville Blvd that was first proposed as part of the Humphrey Brook community development plan.

This would require municipal involvement (perhaps with a development charge). Where did you hear this? Do you have a link???

This parcel to the north of the unbuilt street sold last week for $2.5M: https://paol-efel.snb.ca/paol.html?v...n&pan=06418269

edit: this larger parcel to the west seems to have been part of the same deal: https://paol-efel.snb.ca/paol.html?v...n&pan=06610374

[MonctonRad]

Very interesting. Yes, I would imagine this is where this development is going to go.

[tmacdougall]

All New Brunswick.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Good stuff. I presume this "1.2 km street" will be the planned connector through to Harrisville Blvd that was first proposed as part of the Humphrey Brook community development plan.

This would require municipal involvement (perhaps with a development charge). Where did you hear this? Do you have a link???

[adamuptownsj]

All NB says the same developers paid $700K for three parcels in the area too:

https://paol-efel.snb.ca/paol.html?v...n&pan=06544549 between Newcombe and Glengrove just south of the proposed street seems to fit that description; perhaps it consists of three distinct PIDs.

Plan mentions a townhouse component, presumably this would be on the west side of Glengrove and to the north of Glengrove and Durelle to mesh with the existing neighbourhood.

[MonctonRad]

From the August Moncton PAC document:

APPLICATION DETAILS

Advanced Hospitality Inc. is planning to develop a Mixed-Use Residential Development along Harrisville Boulevard. The proposed plan includes the creation of a new public street linking Warner Street with Marriott Drive, three substantial lots designated for multi-unit residential buildings, and land allocated for public purposes.

The purpose of the Tentative Subdivision Plan:

• To create 3 new building lots,
• To extend Warner Street (public);
• To create Grande Allée Avenue (public);
• To create Land for Public Purposes;
• To create lot 24-3002 for Storm Water Detention Purposes;
• To create five (5) metre wide Public Utility Easements along the proposed streets.

So, three "substantial" lots for multi-unit mixed use residential buildings. Sounds very interesting.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Moncton city council has agreed to spend $620,000 for a new roundabout on Marriott Drive.

I believe this is for the west end of Marriott, beyond the Fairfield Inn, where Marriott will connect with the subdivision currently under construction.

Seeing the request for this new subdivision plan, I guess the roundabout will be located at the intersection of Marriott, Warner and (future) Grande Allee, just to the west of the Fairfield Inn.