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[craigs]

Originally Posted by wwmiv

https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/governmen...n-st-louis.cfm

https://waterwayscouncil.org/media/i...-in-the-future

Thank you.

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by Prahaboheme

This article is a bit dated but this all seems logical in terms of major port cities (not suggesting there aren’t others but it’s quite telling where they are located and not):

https://nowthatslogistics.com/top-15...-the-americas/

This is a list of major ports. Of course sea ports have the most traffic! They have access to less restricted waterways. Rivers (and by extensions most lakes) go in two directions: upstream and downstream (plus whatever navigable tributaries and distributaries there are), whereas sea lanes are plentiful.

https://usace.contentdm.oclc.org/dig...1coll2/id/7447

If you broaden your group only a bit, and consider only rankings and tonnage rather than city names and their cultural cache:

Of the fiftiest busiest ports in the United States, numbers 17, 19, 21, 22, 37, 39, 40, 41, 42 are all on rivers and NOT accessible by oceangoing vessels.

26, 28, 43, and 49 are on the Great Lakes and are accessible by smaller oceangoing vessels.

33, 47, and 48 are on the Columbia River and are accessible by many oceangoing vessels, but they are significantly upriver.

And as a matter of completeness, the following ranked ports are located on rivers (rather than on bays, harbors, or other non-riverine water bodies) even though in practice they are operate as seaports: 2, 5, 7, 13, 16, 18, 23, 38.

To recap, 9 out of the 50 see only river barge traffic and 24 out of the 50 are actually located on rivers or must pass thru rivers to get there.

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Still light years more fascinating than the circle-jerk dip-shittery of the CE toilet

I turned the tele off years ago.

[Six Corners]

So if I follow this discussion correctly, St. Louis's port is a bigger part of the city's identity than Philadelphia's port is to it because Philadelphia's identity is more tied to all the Asian and Latin neighborhoods everyone is so familiar with, but the type of boats that dock at the St. Louis port don't count as port boats so it's not a port.

[jmecklenborg]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

But then further down there's a "types" section which states,

And there's also a page that lists ports in the US, and Port of St. Louis and East St. Louis is listed.

Ocean-going ships can't pull up to random spots on the Atlantic and Pacific coastlines to load/unload cargo. This is because a)they have keels and so need deep water and b)the ocean has waves.

The U.S. rivers are completely different. The towboats and barges don't need keels because waves are minimal and wind is less extreme. This means that they're usually able to pull up very close to the shoreline almost anywhere along thousands of miles of inland waterways.

This means there is no need for a harbor where cargo must be transfered to rail or trucks before reaching its end user. Instead, the power plants, factories, etc., are situated right on the riverbank. Coal, gravel, etc. is conveyed directly from the barge to the end-user. These sites are often in rural counties, far from St. Louis or any other major river city.