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Old Posted Jun 17, 2024, 5:14 AM
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“I could be dreaming but imagine a mixed use tower with office space.

A fantastic suggestion with tower as the key word.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2024, 5:23 PM
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“I could be dreaming but imagine a mixed use tower with office space.

A fantastic suggestion with tower as the key word.
A mixed use tower would be “the highest & best use” for that prominent CBD location. A combination of ground floor retail, some office, with the remainder hotel & condo/rental residential would be great. Wish we could get the developers that built One City Center in Durham interested. They’re starting on their second high rise in the Bull City….
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A mixed use tower would be “the highest & best use” for that prominent CBD location. A combination of ground floor retail, some office, with the remainder hotel & condo/rental residential would be great. Wish we could get the developers that built One City Center in Durham interested. They’re starting on their second high rise in the Bull City….
Keep dreaming, Winston-Salem will not have another tower in the next 25 years.
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Keep dreaming, Winston-Salem will not have another tower in the next 25 years.
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Keep dreaming, Winston-Salem will not have another tower in the next 25 years.
Welcome back, Possum! I thought we had lost you.
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Hey Possum!
So glad to have your cheerful presence back with us!
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Keep dreaming, Winston-Salem will not have another tower in the next 25 years.
35 years!
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Wow, great to have you here Possum!!! I missed you.
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Winston-Salem's 11th annual Pride Parade and Festival will kick off at 10 a.m. Saturday in the Downtown Arts District.

The celebration is part of Pride Week, a series of events hosted by Pride Winston-Salem.

This year, the organization expects 45,000 attendees.
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Courtside Café has closed after a long run at 102 W. 3rd St. in the Liberty Plaza building downtown. But a new restaurant is moving into that spot right away.

Courtside Cafe has been serving affordable breakfast and lunch fare to lawyers and others downtown for many years. Its last day of business was June 21.

Thomas Strates had run the café since 2013. Before that, John Nikas, who currently owns Murphy’s Lunch nearby, had owned it for years.
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It would be possible and I'll explain how. It does require the City wanting a tall building and investing extra in a future parking deck. The City wants to build a new parking deck downtown. If the City acquires the former Hall of Justice site, to use an example, and builds a 6-7 storey parking deck with ground floor retail and expanded sidewalks, this could become the parking and also the foundation for a future apartment building. Construct the parking deck to add maybe 6-9 additional floors of apartments/condominiums. Talk with developers about constructing 6-9 floors of residential or office or hotel rooms above the parking deck. It could be a developer the City partners with to build the deck and they could continue with the upper floors? 6-storey parking decks happen in Winston-Salem and 6-storey apartment buildings happen in Winston-Salem; merge them and you have a 12-storey building. A developer recently constructed residential units above a parking deck here in Atlanta. I've also seen it in Detroit. It could result in a 12-15 storey building. The developer benefits from the City paying for the parking and the foundation work. This means the City would offer this deal to developers for free or $1, if legal documents require a financial transaction. The City would collect taxes on the apartments or whatever use the developer builds above the deck. I do think developers would take interest in it. It would be great if the developer, building those upper floors, would also partner with the City to build the deck as well. One developer building all of it, with the City paying for the deck that can support the extra floors, would result in a much better project in design and floor plans for those upper floors.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2024, 11:41 AM
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I want to thank the photographers and local businesses, sharing updates on projects, who make this thread possible. Without you, these updates won't happen. I don't make any money from this and these updates are to share, with both locals and out-of-towners, what is happening in the city they love. Many people reading this are far-away and this allows them to see the projects. If you can, please support any local businesses or follow social pages sharing photographs and thank them.

Three new projects, including a new North American headquarters, and sadly one rare cancelled project. Lets get updated!

Someone contacted me to say... this will be the song of the summer (It's likely too early to say?):
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Mill 800 Apartments: Cancelled
It's rare for developers to ever announce anything is cancelled in this city. Usually, we suspect something is cancelled, but have to wait for a "For Sale" sign or the announcement of a new project / developer to officially know a project is cancelled. I've suspected this project was cancelled and now we have the "For Sale" sign to make it official. If you're interested in buying it, contact Baldwin Properties. This space was originally proposed as office space and then apartments, with a construction set, last year. It was the last phase of the multi-phase Mill 800 project. So, it does have completed apartments next to it.

The big "For Sale" sign that tells us this project is cancelled!

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STADLER America (North American Headquarters):
STADLER America is preparing to construct a new building, at 3089 Centre Park Court in Winston-Salem, with roughly 11,000-square-feet of office space and roughly 11,500-square-feet of industrial space. The building will have another roughly 5,500-square-feet on a second floor. This is being called the German company's "American office," so it's expected to become their North American headquarters. They are moving from one of the neighboring metro areas in the state and this will be a sizable expansion over their existing space. Yes, Winston-Salem is attracting an expanding employer from one of its larger neighbors.

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Interstate 285:
Upgrading U.S. 52 to Interstate 285 will cost $1,025,600,000 and will widen the highway between Clemmonsville Road and Interstate 74.

1913 Lord & Burnham Conservatory Restoration:


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Salem College Sports:
Salem College plans to build three new beach volleyball courts, along with pathways and a wash station.

Bowman Gray Stadium Renovation:

The foundation/retaining wall design for the Bill Hayes statue:

Credit: WSSU

New Tenants/Leases:
Venny Juniaty, a part owner of Thai Harmony, is opening Ramen Mafia at 271 West Fourth Street. This location was Downtown Thai & Pho, before that restaurant closed.

Interstate 74:

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Event Center & Food Truck Park:
Charlotte-based developer, KB Holdings Development, has purchased the buildings at 1243 North Patterson Avenue for... you guessed it... an event center! And it becomes our event center of the week! It will also have a commissary kitchen for food trucks and the space next to it will become a food truck park for 17 food trucks, as well as vendors. It will also become a pick-up location for home delivery services. This is located on the far northern end of downtown.

1782 George Stockburger House Restoration:

Major progress on the siding (They are the owners restoring it):

Credit: Stockburger Farmhouse

Gateway Nature Preserve Observation Platform:
Gateway Nature Preserve is building a trail system in the Meadow area of the preserve. They have been working on preparing the site by clearing invasive plants, picking up garbage, and getting the site ready for construction. Their meadow trail system will continue their mission of connecting people to nature by providing an additional space where the community can enjoy flora and fauna up close. They are extremely excited to have new trails to host new educational and exploratory events for the community. If you're looking for a way to take part in this project, they are currently seeking donations to help pay for it. https://gatewaynaturepreserve.org/support/donate



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Amtrak at Union Station:
The match for the Winston-Salem to Raleigh Amtrak route is 20% at only $85,328,800. That money would upgrade rail infrastructure on the K Line to support new intercity passenger service from Winston-Salem to the NC Line, which leads to Raleigh. The cost includes necessary infrastructure, stations, and passenger equipment to begin service with three roundtrips per day. They need the 80/20 federal grant to move the project forward.

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Old Posted Jun 23, 2024, 9:20 PM
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Keep dreaming, Winston-Salem will not have another tower in the next 25 years.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2024, 11:33 PM
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Thanks again Matthew for the weekly updates. So, the German company moving to W-S - from what large neighbor are they moving?
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I’m a bit confused about the Bank of America move. The Arby’s location is objectively worse for them than the current location. I feel like it’s going to be a traffic nightmare, specifically with people turning left out of the BoA trying to get back onto Knollwood.

I'm glad that the Mill 800 expansion fell through. It’s wild that it’s taken so long as I feel like originally it was supposed to be done fairly quickly after the opening of Mill 800. However, Mill 800 is frankly a disgrace, has a litany of problems, and I’m sure that expansion would just be more of the same.

On the KB Holdings 1243 Patterson plans. Is this primarily b2b facing or is there a b2c component? Overall I think it’s a really good location for the commercial side of things for food trucks as it's a straight shot into downtown via Patterson and a block from 52. However the “food truck park for 17 food trucks and vendors” makes it sound like there’s some consumer-facing component although the rest doesn’t sound like it at all. If it is a mixed space, I’m really interested to see how they’d lay things out as it feels like more of a commercial location.
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The German company appears to be moving from Colfax.

I think the 1243 North Patterson project is primarily b2c, since it has an event center, a food truck site to buy lunch and dinner, and non-food vendor spaces for arts/crafts and/or seasonal items. It does have a b2b side, with the commissary kitchen and as a place for delivery services to pick-up orders from the trucks. I've seen similar developments and they often have outdoor games and live music. This developer didn't say outdoor games or live music, though.
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Moderately popular YouTuber City Nerd came to Winston and actually did a decent walkthrough / review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxCNVJ5AmqE
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Moderately popular YouTuber City Nerd came to Winston and actually did a decent walkthrough / review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxCNVJ5AmqE
Wow! What a phenomenal review of center city Winston. Sometimes those of us here fail to recognize just how much progress the city has made in creating a thriving, walkable center city. It’s often visitors and tourists giving Winston its props. City Nerd’s review is high praise for Winston.
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He has a strong following and apparently, he is typically critical of cities, which makes this even more impressive. The top comment (673 likes) says "City Nerd sounds like he's having fun. Someone should check on him."
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I want to thank the photographers and local businesses, sharing updates on projects, who make this thread possible. Without you, these updates won't happen. I don't make any money from this and these updates are to share, with both locals and out-of-towners, what is happening in the city they love. Many people reading this are far-away and this allows them to see the projects. If you can, please support any local businesses or follow social pages sharing photographs and thank them.

Yes, this is the city that pleasantly surprised City Nerd on a recent visit!

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Fogle Commons / IQ Infrastructure:


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Nucor Steel Mill:
Nucor is adding-on to their Steel Mill that is currently under construction. They will add a $20 million rebar fabrication facility next to the $350 million steel mill.

Stevens Center Renovation:

Demolishing the canopy:

Credit: UNCSAStevensCenter

The canopy is now demolished:

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Credit: UNCSAStevensCenter

An interesting historical find inside the walls:

Credit: UNCSAStevensCenter

Saving historic light fixtures:

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Credit: UNCSAStevensCenter

Lam Museum of Anthropology:
The Lam Museum of Anthropology is expanding. I think it's an office space expansion?

4th and Green Apartments & Retail:

Some sort of celebration:

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Event Center & Food Truck Park:
The opening date for the first phase of this project is July 2024 and it will be modeled after food truck parks the developer has seen in Florida and Colorado. Capacity could reach 20 food trucks, with some on a rotating schedule and others as permanent vendors. The developer will add picnic tables, live music, movies, a beer garden, and games, such as pickleball courts. Of course we want to know more about the event space, which it seems everyone is doing these days. It will be 8,000-square-feet. It's expected to open around December 2024 and the commissary kitchen will open around February 2025. I do think an event space could do well in this project. This developer would like to work on other projects near this site, so look for future proposals.

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These are old photographs, but they give a nice look at the building for those who may live outside the area.


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Stock Yards Warehouse:
US Foods will renovate an existing 325,000-square-foot warehouse, next to Interstate 285, into a 220,000-square-foot facility to expand its Stock Yards private label meats division. Renovations should be complete by January or February 2026. US Foods expects to have more than twice as many employees as the previous tenant that originally built the space. This will not impact their existing operations in Charlotte, Raleigh, or locally in Winston-Salem.

ProKidney Headquarters Expansion:
Winston-Salem-based biotech company, ProKidney, has raised $140 million in a public offering. This regenerative medicine/biotech company is the fifth-largest public company in the metro area. It has a market cap of nearly $2 billion.

African-American History Museum:


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Credit: Dale Briggs

Corporate Headquarters Moving to Winston-Salem:
According to the local newspaper, Excel Interior Door has announced they are moving their corporate headquarters from suburban Huntsville, Alabama to Winston-Salem. They will move to a 144,000-square-foot building at Winston-Salem's Union Cross Business Park that will include their office space, distribution, and supply chain operations. They are seeking local and state incentives. CEO Mitch Sanner said, “We studied labor availability, site availability, proximity to shipping routes, and many other factors important to our expansion, and Winston-Salem consistently ranked as the ideal location.” With the addition of corporate headquarters employees, the average pay for the jobs created by this project has increased significantly.

The Haven at Wake Apartments:


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Winston-Salem Open Tennis Facility:
The host facility of the Winston-Salem Open will add 72 fixed seats in front of the existing seating at the Harold Pollard Center. Walter Robbs is the architect and I.L. Long Construction is the general contractor for this project.

Bailey Power Plant Tenants:

A construction update on The Dutch Light in Bailey South:

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Oliver Cycling Park:
City Council passed a resolution that set aside land for the Peter Oliver Pavilion Gallery. This is a first of its kind outdoor park space in Winston-Salem.



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New Mural:
New “5” Royales mural by Elio Mercado in downtown Winston-Salem's Arts District:

Credit: David Swift


Credit: thegotowinstonsalem

Their 1950s "Winston-Salem Sound" became the R&B sound of the 50s and heavily influenced music in the 60s and 70s as well. Yes, artists covered their hits even in the 60s and 70s. Music historians and members of other bands fought to have the “5” Royales inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Hollywood Reporter - Best Drama Schools:
Winston-Salem's UNCSA School of Drama is ranked third, behind The Juilliard School and Yale, on the Hollywood Reporter's list of the World's Top-25 Best Drama Schools. The publication spoke of the program's emphasis on diversity and cited their work with trans and non-binary performers.

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