PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread II - Page 233

Jayfar · #**4641** Posted **Jun 19, 2024, 10:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by chimpskibot

really don’t get the need to have 1.5 parking spaces per apt. There are over 5 bus lines within 10min walk of this location plus the BSL. The tweet says they need a variance? What is the variance for?

Variances needed because it’s still zoned I-2 (medium industrial). ZBA hearing is scheduled for October 9th.

https://atlas.phila.gov/1520-30%20WA...N%20AVE/zoning

In fact the refusals are included in the CDR submission:

THE PROPOSED USE, MULTI-FAMILY (FIFTY-FIVE (55) DWELLING UNITS) HOUSEHOLD LIVING, IS EXPRESSLY
PROHIBITED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, 1-2

THE BALCONIES ARE PERMITTED IN ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL MIXED-USE DISTRICTS, AND THE
IRMX DISTRICT. WHEREAS THE PROPOSED BALCONIES ARE IN THE 1-2 INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

By never introducing an ordinance to remap his stretch of Washington Avenue to the newer zoning code as recommended by the Planning Commission, Councilperson Kenyatta Johnson maintains his gatekeeper role for development on the corridor.

chimpskibot · #**4642** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 2:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jayfar

Variances needed because it’s still zoned I-2 (medium industrial). ZBA hearing is scheduled for October 9th.

https://atlas.phila.gov/1520-30%20WA...N%20AVE/zoning

In fact the refusals are included in the CDR submission:

THE PROPOSED USE, MULTI-FAMILY (FIFTY-FIVE (55) DWELLING UNITS) HOUSEHOLD LIVING, IS EXPRESSLY
PROHIBITED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, 1-2

THE BALCONIES ARE PERMITTED IN ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL MIXED-USE DISTRICTS, AND THE
IRMX DISTRICT. WHEREAS THE PROPOSED BALCONIES ARE IN THE 1-2 INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

By never introducing an ordinance to remap his stretch of Washington Avenue to the newer zoning code as recommended by the Planning Commission, Councilperson Kenyatta Johnson maintains his gatekeeper role for development on the corridor.

Good old councilmanic corruption!

TK2001 · #**4643** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 4:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by TonyTone

IMG_0062 by Tony Valuez, on Flickr

Lighting Upgrades anyone

The lighting was tested again. The lights will be ON in August, according to @phillychitchat on Instagram. More lighting!!! I love it!

therealdawk · #**4644** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 2:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Too bad the 95 cap won't be ready in time. I heard FDR Park is an option, although an option closer to Center City would be cool (IMO).

Also, what is the point of an expanse of grass if it can't be used for anything? Assuming Independence Mall is large enough for 10k+ people, that would be a great spot for a "fan fest" event, especially on the July 4th game. Might as well build a hotel or apartments on the mall then...

The World Cup Fan Fest location has been announced! I don't think any of us mentioned this as a possibility.
The Host City Executive lady said that they needed a space to accommodate between 15K-25K on any given day...

https://www.fox29.com/video/1473722

Raja · #**4645** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 3:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by therealdawk

The World Cup Fan Fest location has been announced! I don't think any of us mentioned this as a possibility.
The Host City Executive lady said that they needed a space to accommodate between 15K-25K on any given day...

https://www.fox29.com/video/1473722

They mention infrastructure improvements. Could you imagine if they laid a rail line in the cut for this, with a new marquee Fairmount Park station at 33rd & Girard? Sigh... one can dream.

bonfire · #**4646** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 3:52 PM**

What happened to the Ben Franklin Bridge LED lights? At night they are dimly light as well.

bonfire · #**4647** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 3:54 PM**

I guess this answers my question !

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20240305.html

Skintreesnail · #**4648** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 7:13 PM**

I guess lemon hill is ok, i wonder what improvements they have in mind. It's too bad that they couldn't have the parkway redesign done in time, or the penns landing cap. FDR makes sense too since they are building all those soccer fields and the linc is right there.

https://billypenn.com/2024/06/20/phi...rk-lemon-hill/

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Originally Posted by Raja

They mention infrastructure improvements. Could you imagine if they laid a rail line in the cut for this, with a new marquee Fairmount Park station at 33rd & Girard? Sigh... one can dream.

That would be very cool

mcgrath618 · #**4649** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 7:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Raja

They mention infrastructure improvements. Could you imagine if they laid a rail line in the cut for this, with a new marquee Fairmount Park station at 33rd & Girard? Sigh... one can dream.

As much as I'd love that, no shot it's done in less than two years.

Skintreesnail · #**4650** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 8:00 PM**

The more I think about it and read about how big fan fest is and consider the all star game and the 250 year celebration and the pga championship the more i think they should just shut the parkway down and have a massive festival all year. Route traffic down Fairmount, penn ave and spring garden.

BroadandMarket · #**4651** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 8:06 PM**

Pretty shocked they picked Lemon Hill. Can Independence Mall not fit that many people? Like most of Fairmount Park, the lemon hill picnic area is just run down. Cracked pavement, decaying pavilions, overflowing trashcans and litter left from disrespectful citizens. Maybe they will add some access to Kelly Drive. There's the old ornate staircase at Sedgley and then no other real pedestrian access points to the elevated Lemon Hill area.

PurpleWhiteOut · #**4652** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 9:23 PM**

It's not nearly as remote as you guys are making it seem. I'm sure they'll have a shuttle loop, but it's only a 15 min walk from the PMA and will be a boon to Girard Ave and Fairmount Ave shops. In fact, this is much closer to restaurants and amenities than FDR Park which, while I like it, is surrounded by parking lots and doesn't give a good impression of the city from the outside

And believe it or not, litter can be cleaned up and pavement can be replaced in 2 years

Raja · #**4653** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

It's not nearly as remote as you guys are making it seem. I'm sure they'll have a shuttle loop, but it's only a 15 min walk from the PMA and will be a boon to Girard Ave and Fairmount Ave shops. In fact, this is much closer to restaurants and amenities than FDR Park which, while I like it, is surrounded by parking lots and doesn't give a good impression of the city from the outside

And believe it or not, litter can be cleaned up and pavement can be replaced in 2 years

Same, the general pitch seems to be that they intend to use this as an opportunity to improve the area and leave a bit of a legacy. Although it's likely to be incremental improvements at best, if we're thinking about places where some beautification will have a lasting impact this is a decent choice.

bigfish · #**4654** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 12:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by Raja

They mention infrastructure improvements. Could you imagine if they laid a rail line in the cut for this, with a new marquee Fairmount Park station at 33rd & Girard? Sigh... one can dream.

I have always had a dream of them running a light rail from Broad st (connected to either Race/Vine or Spring Garden) through the cut and tunnel under Pennsylvania Ave with stops at the Art Museum, Fairmount, Lemon Hill, then use the tracks at Girard to stop at the Zoo and turn up Parkside ave and ending by the Mann.

bdurk · #**4655** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 12:43 AM**

I think Lemon Hill will work better than expected. I bike by it all the time and it is absolutely gorgeous during the summer. I think it's a cool spot and I'm excited to see how it works out. I think they said that Independence Mall wasn't available? I'm guessing they'll have something there for the 250 year celebration because that's the most obvious no brainer spot to have the Fan Fest.

PHL10 · #**4656** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 12:14 PM**

I'm not sure how many people are expected at the fan zone but just checking and it's 2 miles from City Hall. Sure it's walkable but not ideally so. Maybe they will run shuttles?

Justin7 · #**4657** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 12:25 PM**

Peripheral, maybe, but the Girard Ave Bridge desperately needs a full renovation with lane-narrowing. Should be a gorgeous spot.

jaysb · #**4658** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 1:11 PM**

Business Journal put out wealthy Zip Code rankings which actually favor density in their formula, I like it. Pretty good results for Philly:

National Ranking ZIP Name ZIP
24 Philadelphia - 19103 19103
43 Philadelphia - 19147 19147
50 Philadelphia - 19106 19106
102 Philadelphia - 19130 19130

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...ladelphia.html

DeltaNerd · #**4659** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 1:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHL10

I'm not sure how many people are expected at the fan zone but just checking and it's 2 miles from City Hall. Sure it's walkable but not ideally so. Maybe they will run shuttles?

Under the new Septa bus revolution, both the 32 and 49 are the next to Lemon hill with the 32 originating in CC and the 49 going through 30th street.

The 48 would also be a viable option as it drops you off one block from Lemon hill and the 15 trolley as well.

So I guess there are at least one-seat options from city hall.

nemesisinphilly · #**4660** Posted **Jun 21, 2024, 8:05 PM**

I also would have preferred something more centrally located then Lemon Hill but you have to remember that this has to be open continuously for 5 weeks and be able to accommodate 15,000 people per day. Other than FDR I'm struggling to think of a central location that can be shut down for 5 weeks.

I'm very curious to see where the Fan Festival will be in NYC, Boston, and LA. Some of the other cities have announced locations but I'm not too familiar with them to judge how they compare to Lemon Hill.