[Moncton] Downtown Developments

[MonctonRad]

Additional render of the "Two Brothers" from l'Acadie Nouvelle



Thanks to Leroy321 for posting this on the Three Sisters thread.

Definitely 16 storeys (at least from the back)

The large glassed in atrium is very interesting. I wonder what that is all about?

[new kid in town]

I like it

[new kid in town]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The "Two Brothers" is for all intents and purposes an extension of the Three Sisters project. This will be an assembly line too. If Lafford is aggressive, I could then see the tower crane then moving over to the nearby Tim Horton's site immediately afterwards...

Originally Posted by Clamdigger

An article in this morning's Acadie Nouvelle states that the Lafford project that we call "Two Brothers" will begin this Fall.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Thanks. I take this to mean excavation work. This would mean the tower crane would move over next spring. Lafford is using an expedited construction schedule. I love his aggressiveness.

Ah I love reading good news in the morning

[MonctonPerson]

The presentation to council described the proposal as the Gateway Towers at 17 floors, within the range of 400 apartment units.

Construction work expected to start as early as this fall, but there are still some bylaw changes necessary so there will be further hearings/votes by council.

The map presented shows the city is not selling off the two ballfields, which had been the rumour, but basically up to the walking trail.

[MonctonRad]

Gateway Towers - very interesting. I presume the western gateway to downtown on Assumption Blvd.

[Leroy321]

Originally Posted by MonctonPerson

The presentation to council described the proposal as the Gateway Towers at 17 floors, within the range of 400 apartment units.

Construction work expected to start as early as this fall, but there are still some bylaw changes necessary so there will be further hearings/votes by council.

The map presented shows the city is not selling off the two ballfields, which had been the rumour, but basically up to the walking trail.

Did it say how many meters it was by chance just so I can add them to the skyscraper page diagrams

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by MonctonPerson

The presentation to council described the proposal as the Gateway Towers at 17 floors, within the range of 400 apartment units.

Construction work expected to start as early as this fall, but there are still some bylaw changes necessary so there will be further hearings/votes by council.

The map presented shows the city is not selling off the two ballfields, which had been the rumour, but basically up to the walking trail.

Sounds like I may have enough information now to create a project specific thread. It would be nice however if I were to have a proper height in metres.

[lirette]

The glass atrium is a nice feature which differentiates it enough from the 3 sisters. Seeing these high quality render I am not as concerned about everything looking the same

The atrium could be...

1. Pool
2. Event space for residents (including three sisters residents)
3. Dining/Restaurant (something with this much natural lighting could make a nice brunch spot)
4. High end cafe (epoch)
5. Pickleball court


Keep in mind this will now create a better flow into the riverfront park where things like ribfest and other festivals are hosted. This is going to vastly change the amount of activity on the riverfront which has been mostly dead at that end of downtown. There will be a much safer feeling using the trail system in this area.

[MonctonRad]

The Taverna Greek restaurant on Main Street has opened their new sidewalk patio:

[Patapouf26]

I'm unsure if this was previously mentioned, but the old MHS site has been sold for $3.8 million at the end of April 2024. Was anything announced recently?

Source: https://paol-efel.snb.ca/paol.html?v...n&pan=06738685

[MonctonRad]

No. This is a revelation! Thanks for posting.

[drewber]

Originally Posted by Patapouf26

I'm unsure if this was previously mentioned, but the old MHS site has been sold for $3.8 million at the end of April 2024. Was anything announced recently?

Source: https://paol-efel.snb.ca/paol.html?v...n&pan=06738685

Sold to the same company seems like a corporate restructuring more than anything else

[Riberview]

Originally Posted by drewber

Sold to the same company seems like a corporate restructuring more than anything else

unfortunately a giant nothingburger.

Heritage should sell ALL of their properties and let the big boys and gals build this city.

as long as that family owns the properties, don't expect much.

[jonny golden]

Originally Posted by Riberview

unfortunately a giant nothingburger.

Heritage should sell ALL of their properties and let the big boys and gals build this city.

as long as that family owns the properties, don't expect much.

I believe they also own a lot of prime (vacant) downtown land as well.

[lirette]

Originally Posted by jonny golden

I believe they also own a lot of prime (vacant) downtown land as well.

Heritage just seems far more to me like a low level landlord than a serious player. I used to work in heritage court. They spent a crap ton of money to put up gates at both entrances of their large parking lot years ago only to cave on using them because they wouldn't pay to cover replacement security cards (for the gates) for employees that use the building. We are talking about $20 cards.

Heritage Court itself could be so much better than it is. They slapped up some grey paint on the back side of the building where the seniors living is and old WestJet call center was housed and called it a renovation. The upkeep and maintenance inside the building is not good. I recognize its a really old building and that adds challenges but it sucks to think how much better it could be given its historical significance and prime location. The only decent upgrades done to the building have been interior ones that have been paid for by the tenants inside. They also own 1 factory lane (old marvens) which could be something really cool if the right person had their hands on it.

I believe Heritage Management will be an active hinderance to the future of downtown and wish Lafford or someone else would make them an offer they cant refuse. End rant

[MonctonRad]

Agree 100%

Heritage used to be the poster boy for downtown historical preservation and redevelopment, but, that was 30 years ago. The worm has turned.

I wish they would find another buyer for the MHS. It is just sitting there languishing under their watch...........

[jnaygull]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Agree 100%

Heritage used to be the poster boy for downtown historical preservation and redevelopment, but, that was 30 years ago. The worm has turned.

I wish they would find another buyer for the MHS. It is just sitting there languishing under their watch...........

It would be amazing if a developer took it and gutted the existing MHS building to use it as a pedestal for a residential tower built up from the middle.

[Taeolas]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Agree 100%

Heritage used to be the poster boy for downtown historical preservation and redevelopment, but, that was 30 years ago. The worm has turned.

I wish they would find another buyer for the MHS. It is just sitting there languishing under their watch...........

I wonder if any of the reporters that tend to keep in eye on these boards might be tempted to do some digging and maybe light some fires under Heritage to get them refocused like they used to be with an expose or at least some public pressure. /hint

[David_99]

Originally Posted by jnaygull

It would be amazing if a developer took it and gutted the existing MHS building to use it as a pedestal for a residential tower built up from the middle.

Or don’t gut it and use it as a new High School, which we apparently need.

[riverviewer]

Originally Posted by David_99

Or don’t gut it and use it as a new High School, which we apparently need.

New Brunswick is short 500 teachers for the upcoming year. We need to staff our current buildings before we add more teacherless classrooms to the mix.