(YEG) Edmonton International Airport Part 4 (October 2023)

[YegFan]

Originally Posted by LO 044

^To be honest I think there's now two of you drinking the Kool-Aid.

There are no guarantees that AMS flights are transitioning to other hubs sooner or later. There are so many options solving AMS supposed congestion like using larger aircraft, eliminating flights from AMS to cities within two hours, moving sun flights from AMS to RTM. Everything is before the courts and the EU generally favors competition. The EU has already ruled against lowering traffic at AMS and favored with the airlines including KLM. If you move aircraft to other airports, you are moving the congestion, noise and pollution to other airports so you're just imposing the negative effects on others and last time I checked the EU is one big country.

From comparing the 2 airports strictly myself it looks like AMS has more connection options than CDG. I personally would take AMS over CDG any day. FRA is finishing up on a new terminal so BRU will be no game changer anytime soon. CPH has too much backtracking for it to be a premier hub but that's my opinion only.


That's the point. It won't get more profitable traffic from YEG. We haven't even got Icelandair back. Condor is really a niche route with only 2 flights per week for the summer. KL relies more on economy traffic than business traffic like say BA so I think they work out here. Let's hope that KL flights to AMS remain. I think their African network is a bit of distinguisher from others and the amount of destinations KL has in Europe is very competitive to someone like LH and SK. AF and BA seem to only connect to premier type destinations/capital cities. AF will fly to YYC faster than YEG and compete head on with WS.

I don't think you get my point...But you can do the research. AMS will become very restricted eventually and this has nothing to do with EU regulations. The people of AMS are against expanding AMS. In fact, they want the government to shrink its size.

Ultimately, for AF/KL future growth will have to rely on other hubs. Not suggesting this will happen tomorrow, but they are even exploring Tap Portugal as another acquisition to mitigate risk.

[OilCity98]

Originally Posted by Calfan12

WestJet is making new YEG - Atlanta (ATL) US route year round.

For winter 2024 ,YEG - Ottawa (YOW) operates 5x weekly & YEG to Montreal (YUL) 4x weekly.

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/news/2...as-canada-s-le

Now for SLC, NYC, DET and BOS..

[hehehe]

Originally Posted by OilCity98

Now for SLC, NYC, DET and BOS..

I wonder if JFK would ever be a possibility. ORD has to be coming back eventually, either on UA/AA.

[OilCity98]

Originally Posted by hehehe

I wonder if JFK would ever be a possibility. ORD has to be coming back eventually, either on UA/AA.

Was thinking of the Delta hubs Westjet seems to be feeding. How have MSP, ATL and SEA been performing? Would think SLC would be next.

[ace.yyc]

Originally Posted by OilCity98

How have MSP, ATL and SEA been performing? Would think SLC would be next.

MSP has been good from the start. SEA is fine. Bit early to say much about ATL but with no IAH or DFW flight from YEG I guarantee it will be fine.

[EdmTrekker]

Originally Posted by OilCity98

Now for SLC, NYC, DET and BOS..

Not sure why Delta would ever put a daily to Salr Lake. I don’t see the traffic. To Seattle sure but Salt Lake nope.

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

Not sure why Delta would ever put a daily to Salr Lake. I don’t see the traffic. To Seattle sure but Salt Lake nope.

Connections

[Touch go]

Originally Posted by msmariner

Connections

Would rather increased frequency to MSP and SEA then cannibalize both by adding SLC

[Coldrsx]

^exactly. Upgauge or another flight per day would be far more beneficial.

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by Touch go

Would rather increased frequency to MSP and SEA then cannibalize both by adding SLC

If I was connecting anywhere but the west coast of the USA I’d avoid SEA as a connection point. Why connect west if you’re going east. SLC has great connections for the continental US. I’d use them or MSP myself if Delta was the choice airline

[LO 044]

I feel like I remember Delta 727's flying YEG-SLC in years past. Mind you I also remember Northwest DC9's and 320's flying YEG-MSP as well. I tried looking up SLC in terms of ranking of Delta's hubs but couldn't find anything definitive. Looks like ATL is the largest followed by MSP and DTW and then the rest. Not sure if we'll ever get the SLC flight back.

[ace.yyc]

Originally Posted by msmariner

If I was connecting anywhere but the west coast of the USA I’d avoid SEA as a connection point.

A significant number of people on YEG-SEA connect onto Asia and Hawaii. Let me know how that would go AT SLC.

[Touch go]

Originally Posted by msmariner

If I was connecting anywhere but the west coast of the USA I’d avoid SEA as a connection point. Why connect west if you’re going east. SLC has great connections for the continental US. I’d use them or MSP myself if Delta was the choice airline

So what doesn't MSP connect to that would make SLC better?

[Rocket252]

Originally Posted by ace.yyc

A significant number of people on YEG-SEA connect onto Asia and Hawaii. Let me know how that would go AT SLC.

If the service to Sea does well would Westjet consider upgrading to 737 from Q400?

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by ace.yyc

A significant number of people on YEG-SEA connect onto Asia and Hawaii. Let me know how that would go AT SLC.

I know you’re the almighty of knowing everything… but I do believe Hawaii and Asian destinations are to the west. Sorry for speaking without asking your permission 🤦♂️☝️🤔

[ace.yyc]

^ Except these more eastern cities that you deem to be so great to reach via SLC... yeah the numbers don't support your theory on the current 2x daily YYC-SLC. It's just not true, so dunno what else to tell ya. There's a reason we don't have SLC mainline.

Originally Posted by Rocket252

If the service to Sea does well would Westjet consider upgrading to 737 from Q400?

Absolutely. The YYC service ramped up insanely fast, one Q to 2 daily now 3x daily mainline for summer. No reason YEG won't ramp up either.

[hollywoodcory]

WS has YEG-SEA showing on a 737 in September/October

[Coldrsx]

As posted by Windermere on SRC
Source
https://www.transportation.gov/polic...tistics-report

[ace.yyc]

I love that transborder numbers are public... Look at those WestJet load factors. God damn.

MSP in particular - those are great launch numbers. YEG-MCO is jam packed despite fares being a small fortune.

[Rocket252]

Are we able to get Domestic and international load numbers for YEG? Also is there a way to determine passenger transfer numbers - for example how many of the YEG passengers are only going to Denver as comparing to how many are transferring on to other cities like Houston.