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[bnk]

If either McCarthy or Vallas didn't run Daley would have secured a spot.

But the same thing can be said if Wilie Brown didn't run that his votes would have gone to some of the female black candidates.


14 running was too many. The Business community and the Rahm vote was behind Daley. But the turn out was so low, the largest minority majority is whites in population and votes. Blacks in second even though now there are more Hispanics but they do not vote as a high as a percentage.


The point is a very large segment that did vote were white, of course the teachers union white or rainbow voted for TP while the guilty Lakefront liberals voted for Lightfoot, I suspect.

The issue here is that we have no pro business mayor candidates thus far. I guess it will Coalesce around Lightfoot now that Daley is unable to make up the margin in a two way battle.



I want to know who Lightfoot's voter base is?

I see nothing pro business in her website or platform. But I suspect the business community and Daley will now have to support her in the runoff.


The fact that of the four top vote getters were black in a city with the largest percentage of whites voting is something.

Three of them were black, one a lesbian. The other black man was a joke.


So that is 43% of the total votes going to 3 blacks out of the top four and Daley getting at best 16%.

So add up those numbers and Bills numbers and clearly whites voted for someone else not named Daley even though those that did vote had good paying jobs and likely little memory of Richie.

I still think Rahm was the best choice and would have won in a runoff against anyone.



But who are all of these white voters coming out of the woodwork and demographics of them to vote for a LGBT black female over another black female in such a degree not even a staunch lifelong democrat that worked with Obama as Chief of Staff and commerce cabinet post and knows the ins and outs of DC and their money lines were inundated by whites voting for blacks? There are threads dedicated to the reverse migration from the Great Migration still posting in this site. The Black population will continue to bleed and lose population projected to 2035 where they will be 50% of what they were when Mayor Washington ran, who also needed a rainbow collection of north shore liberals, blacks and Hispanics and every other color in the spectrum in the early 80's.



Is there anything in Lightfoot's platform that is superior to PW concerning being pro big business . I see nothing to see that she will continue the Rahm like approach for poaching talent, from hopefully one day out of state one day, and I do not see much about her taxing program or how to pay to expand the CPS system.

[UPChicago]

Originally Posted by bnk

If either McCarthy or Vallas didn't run Daley would have secured a spot.

But the same thing can be said if Wilie Brown didn't run that his votes would have gone to some of the female black candidates.


14 running was too many. The Business community and the Rahm vote was behind Daley. But the turn out was so low, the largest minority majority is whites in population and votes. Blacks in second even though now there are more Hispanics but they do not vote as a high as a percentage.


The point is a very large segment that did vote were white, of course the teachers union white or rainbow voted for TP while the guilty Lakefront liberals voted for Lightfoot, I suspect.

The issue here is that we have no pro business mayor candidates thus far. I guess it will Coalesce around Lightfoot now that Daley is unable to make up the margin in a two way battle.



I want to know who Lightfoot's voter base is?

I see nothing pro business in her website or platform. But I suspect the business community and Daley will now have to support her in the runoff.


The fact that of the four top vote getters were black in a city with the largest percentage of whites voting is something.

Three of them were black, one a lesbian. The other black man was a joke.


So that is 43% of the total votes going to 3 blacks out of the top four and Daley getting at best 16%.

So add up those numbers and Bills numbers and clearly whites voted for someone else not named Daley even though those that did vote had good paying jobs and likely little memory of Richie.

I still think Rahm was the best choice and would have won in a runoff against anyone.



But who are all of these white voters coming out of the woodwork and demographics of them to vote for a LGBT black female over another black female in such a degree not even a staunch lifelong democrat that worked with Obama as Chief of Staff and commerce cabinet post and knows the ins and outs of DC and their money lines were inundated by whites voting for blacks? There are threads dedicated to the reverse migration from the Great Migration still posting in this site. The Black population will continue to bleed and lose population projected to 2035 where they will be 50% of what they were when Mayor Washington ran, who also needed a rainbow collection of north shore liberals, blacks and Hispanics and every other color in the spectrum in the early 80's.



Is there anything in Lightfoot's platform that is superior to PW concerning being pro big business . I see nothing to see that she will continue the Rahm like approach for poaching talent, from hopefully one day out of state one day, and I do not see much about her taxing program or how to pay to expand the CPS system.

What in the actual fuck......

[ardecila]

^ Yeah, you win some you lose some. At least he doesn't seem like an asshole like Moreno (or Guzzardi, Rosa etc) and has some redeeming parts of his platform.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by ardecila

^ Yeah, you win some you lose some. At least he doesn't seem like an asshole like Moreno (or Guzzardi, Rosa etc) and has some redeeming parts of his platform.

That Sigcho guy is from Pilsen Alliance and another rent control hack (just like LaSpata)

We replaced one set of tools with another, it seems

[Steely Dan]

Choo-choo!

All aboard the Lightfoot express.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

Choo-choo!

All aboard the Lightfoot express.

I guess so.

[Tom In Chicago]

What a disaster!

[LouisVanDerWright]

Honestly I'm an increasing fan of Lightfoot. The late momentum her campaign developed is impressive. Would have liked her vs Daley, but oh well. Seems like she will mop the floor with Preckwinkle and frankly she's the only real reformer in the running. She's also a former federal prosecutor which makes me think the heat will continue to be turnt up on the machine dicks like Burke if she wins. As much as I dislike Rosa et al I can live with then if they are controlled by a real reformer like Lightfoot.

[SIGSEGV]

Lightfoot on Aldermanic Prerogative: https://youtu.be/yRfhM2_WdSo?t=2674

[Via Chicago]

Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago

What a disaster!

you guys would have said that about literally anyone that wasn't an ex wall street hack

Lightfoot is competent, intelligent, and will make a fine mayor

[10023]

Originally Posted by Via Chicago

you guys would have said that about literally anyone that wasn't economically literate and understood Chicago’s strategic advantages

Lightfoot is competent, intelligent, and will make a fine mayor

FIFY

It is going to be a very bad thing for Chicago if it gets a mayor who thinks that rich people moving in and poor people moving away is a bad thing. An AOC type who would chase away Amazon because it might make surrounding neighborhoods more desirable is not what Chicago needs.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by 10023

FIFY

It is going to be a very bad thing for Chicago if it gets a mayor who thinks that rich people moving in and poor people moving away is a bad thing. An AOC type who would chase away Amazon because it might make surrounding neighborhoods more desirable is not what Chicago needs.

Absolutely. I don't think either are an AOC type, but certianly lean that way. If Prekwinkle is really in favor of rent control she is worse than I thought. That combined with the public employee unions backing will be a disaster for Chicago. The city's pension payment will be double in the next few years and keep increasing. We have to be extremely tough with the unions, like low to no raises and increase their contribution to the cost of healthcare. If your primary support is from unions that's not going to happen.

Lightfoot appears to not support rent control and is not beholden to the unions. She has no experience though in anything pertinent to running the City. And NO financial background.

I think we have a one termer either way as a recession will likely hit in the next few years and the city's finances will be on life support.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by bnk

If either McCarthy or Vallas didn't run Daley would have secured a spot.

But the same think can be said if Wilie Brown didn't run that his votes would have gone to some of the female black candidates.


14 running was too many. The Business community and the Rahm vote was behind Daley. But the turn out was so low, the largest minority majority is whites in population and votes. Blacks in second even though now there are more Hispanics but they do not vote as a high as a percentage.


The point is a very large segment that did vote were white, perhaps lakefront liberals and the teachers that voted for TP while the guilty Lakefront liberals voted for Lightfoot, I suspect.

The issue here is that we have no pro business mayor candidates thus far. I guess it will Coalesce around Lightfoot now that Daley is unable to make up the margin in a two way battle.



I want to know who Lightfoot's voter base is?

I see nothing pro business in her website or platform. But I suspect the business community and Daley will now have to support her in the runoff.


The fact that of the four top vote getters were black in a city with the largest percentage of whites voting is something.

Three of them were black, one a lesbian. The other black man was a joke.


So that is 43% of the total votes going to 3 blacks out of the top four and Daley getting at best 16%.

So add up those numbers and Bills numbers and clearly whites voted for someone else not named Daley even though those that did vote had good paying jobs and likely little memory of Richie.

I still think Rahm was the best choice and would have won in a runoff against anyone.

^ I don’t know why you think people voted en masse on racial lines. Way oversimplification.

[Via Chicago]

Thinking ppl vote strictly on racial lines is about as archaic an analysis as they come. Don't quit your day job bnk, and you're welcome to join the 21st century at any time

[the urban politician]

Watch for serious messaging changes from both now. If we are going to accept that at least some racial lines voting is occurring, I’m willing to bet that the real fight now is for the white and Hispanic vote.

[SIGSEGV]

Look at all those predominantly African-American wards that Lightfoot won:

(from the Trib)

[Via Chicago]

Lol

[bnk]

Lakefront liberals strike again.

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

(from the Trib)

Why did Joyce run? No chance of winning...Stalking horse against Bill?


I want to hear from a well to do DT worker that commutes to explain why Lightfoot is the best choice. Those that voted for her.


From a pro business and general development viewpoint that Rahm would have run on.


I think it is Lightfoot's race to lose. She should get the Daley vote, the a good chunk of the Mendoza vote and Joyce's outer areas. And perhaps a percentage of Chico's votes.

W Wilson's area could go TP by a margin.


All added up it should be an easy Lightfoot's win with pro business money if she asks for it.

[Mr Roboto]

Honestly suprised by the results. I thought it was between Preckwinkle and Daley. I totally underestimated Lightfoots chances, looks like she has a great chance of becoming mayor in the runoff. Guess she doesnt have any major baggage, maybe that's why shes winning.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Mr Roboto

Honestly suprised by the results. I thought it was between Preckwinkle and Daley. I totally underestimated Lightfoots chances, looks like she has a great chance of becoming mayor in the runoff. Guess she doesnt have any major baggage, maybe that's why shes winning.

I agree, but I should have realized she was going to do well. Most of the more liberal whites I know voted for her. That is demonstrated by the ward map vote.

She seems reasonable enough. She has my relatively unenthusiastic vote.