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Old Posted Jan 22, 2018, 1:18 AM
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Right....but if you lose both...THAT is not good.....why i think HQ2 it one of the biggest thing chicago can do in a loooooooong time...basically seals the deal for our growth and strikes down the negative narrative in 1 stroke.
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Right....but if you lose both...THAT is not good.....why i think HQ2 it one of the biggest thing chicago can do in a loooooooong time...basically seals the deal for our growth and strikes down the negative narrative in 1 stroke.
Yep. If Amazon were to come to Chicago, a lot of the people who completely overlooked it would probably eventually say "I wonder what is there that I missed?" though I suspect there would be many negative articles first from various cities about "WHY CHICAGO AND NOT US!?" or they'd probably write more articles showing how they don't understand how EDGE tax credits work.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2018, 3:24 PM
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I guess I just don't get it. There is no second place here. This is winner take all, like the Olympics. So even Chicago though could win, it's still not even remotely close to guaranteed, and probably not even a very high likelihood. And even if Chicago comes very close and Bezos chooses another city over it by a thin margin, we get nada. Zilch.

Sorry, but I'm out of touch with so many of my fellow Forumers on the HQ2 thing. Not sure how you can salivate over something that has the potential to be such a huge disappointment.
Everything that's good has the potential to be a huge disappointment. Sports affiliation, getting into med school, relationships, x-ray results. You win some and you lose some. And hope makes a good breakfast but a poor dinner. But there's literally an Aesop's fable about why this kind of negative outlook is unwelcome and we teach it to six year olds.

I think Chicago's probably in the top five but our odds are worse than 20% that we win it. But we still might! Until then, everyone else gets to enjoy the floaty, nautious, euphoric feeling you experience when taking part in a competition. At least, that’s how I felt when a little league foul-ball struck the base of my skull as I chased a grasshopper out of the dugout. Never leave the dugout.

Amazon is bringing 50,000 jobs someplace. That's like as many as there are in downtown Kansas City. But they aren't just jobs. They are high tech jobs. Plus there's tons of positive press, momentum and signaling for the the winner. It's just a BFD. If I pretended not to care, I'd just obviously be pretending.

I think Chicago won't win. But what's important is that we have the foundation to win. Connectivity, talent, a robust and exciting urban space, good public transport and a dynamic economy. Getting Amazon would be a grand slam. But the chance to win as a location for great jobs are going to keep happening. Even if we don't get to see a walkoff grand slam, we're going to be hitting singles and doubles in the years ahead.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2018, 5:24 PM
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Everything that's good has the potential to be a huge disappointment. Sports affiliation, getting into med school, relationships, x-ray results. You win some and you lose some. And hope makes a good breakfast but a poor dinner. But there's literally an Aesop's fable about why this kind of negative outlook is unwelcome and we teach it to six year olds.

I think Chicago's probably in the top five but our odds are worse than 20% that we win it. But we still might! Until then, everyone else gets to enjoy the floaty, nautious, euphoric feeling you experience when taking part in a competition. At least, that’s how I felt when a little league foul-ball struck the base of my skull as I chased a grasshopper out of the dugout. Never leave the dugout.

Amazon is bringing 50,000 jobs someplace. That's like as many as there are in downtown Kansas City. But they aren't just jobs. They are high tech jobs. Plus there's tons of positive press, momentum and signaling for the the winner. It's just a BFD. If I pretended not to care, I'd just obviously be pretending.

I think Chicago won't win. But what's important is that we have the foundation to win. Connectivity, talent, a robust and exciting urban space, good public transport and a dynamic economy. Getting Amazon would be a grand slam. But the chance to win as a location for great jobs are going to keep happening. Even if we don't get to see a walkoff grand slam, we're going to be hitting singles and doubles in the years ahead.
But you see, this isn’t some political zero sum game if we lose. I understand that there are losses and risks. But what is lost by a city when they go that far to bat for a 1 time windfall is not necessarily recovered.

There is a political capital that gets expended every time politicians try to achieve something big. You had the 600 person committee for this HQ2, business leaders, the Governor, as well as garnering public support for huge tax breaks in a time when we can’t spare the money, etc. so if Amazon doesn’t choose Chicago, Emanuel just blew his wad over nothing. Perhaps something else that is important that would require earth-raising moves by the Mayor won’t happen now.

Look at the Olympics. Classic example. We wasted effort and real money on that. Daley got Oprah on board, and he even used his political connections to get Obama to personally press Chicago’s case to the IOC. It all failed. And I’m sure Daley wouldn’t feel comfortable calling Obama to do what he did all that often. He spent tremendous political capital and Chicago got nothing.

I for one am getting fed up with these long shots. Chicago became great by innovation, hard work, a pro-business environment, and that’s what we really need. Instead we are just copying everybody else in praying that.....”Oh golly gosh I hope he picks me!” It’s pathetic. I just can’t get my head around sucking up to Bezos like half the nation is doing, as if he is the great Pharoah of the Old Kingdom.

Rejecting this nonsense would be against the grain, even a tad rebellious—and would certainly be a sign of Chicago’s bravado of Old that everybody here apparently misses. An image that the Midwest completely lacks. We are always looked at here as desperate, starved for jobs, has-beens, and non-innovators, and every time we jump around screaming “Oh oh please pick me oh mighty coastal mega-company! Please pick me!” it reinforces it all.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2018, 7:52 PM
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But you see, this isn’t some political zero sum game if we lose. I understand that there are losses and risks. But what is lost by a city when they go that far to bat for a 1 time windfall is not necessarily recovered.

There is a political capital that gets expended every time politicians try to achieve something big. You had the 600 person committee for this HQ2, business leaders, the Governor, as well as garnering public support for huge tax breaks in a time when we can’t spare the money, etc. so if Amazon doesn’t choose Chicago, Emanuel just blew his wad over nothing. Perhaps something else that is important that would require earth-raising moves by the Mayor won’t happen now.

Look at the Olympics. Classic example. We wasted effort and real money on that. Daley got Oprah on board, and he even used his political connections to get Obama to personally press Chicago’s case to the IOC. It all failed. And I’m sure Daley wouldn’t feel comfortable calling Obama to do what he did all that often. He spent tremendous political capital and Chicago got nothing.

I for one am getting fed up with these long shots. Chicago became great by innovation, hard work, a pro-business environment, and that’s what we really need. Instead we are just copying everybody else in praying that.....”Oh golly gosh I hope he picks me!” It’s pathetic. I just can’t get my head around sucking up to Bezos like half the nation is doing, as if he is the great Pharoah of the Old Kingdom.

Rejecting this nonsense would be against the grain, even a tad rebellious—and would certainly be a sign of Chicago’s bravado of Old that everybody here apparently misses. An image that the Midwest completely lacks. We are always looked at here as desperate, starved for jobs, has-beens, and non-innovators, and every time we jump around screaming “Oh oh please pick me oh mighty coastal mega-company! Please pick me!” it reinforces it all.
Wouldn't this be true of all who pitched for HQ2? Maryland just offered $5b for Amazon. NJ offered $7b. I think everyone's willing to give away the bank on this HQ because the outcome is +/- 50,000 high-paying jobs. I am mostly over the back and forth though. It's clear that Amazon is shopping for incentives. RFP will go out the window if a city like Columbus or Pittsburgh offers a considerably more lucrative incentives package. I can't say I blame them.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2018, 8:23 PM
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^ Thats because of politicians. This is an easy headline for them to win votes.

Politicians want to stay in office, so news like this, and ways in which they can play around with taxpayers money to benefit already cash-flush companies to "win us jobs" will always give them good press in the public eye.

I have an idea how Rahm could pull from his political capital to benefit Chicago. I will mention it in a follow up post.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2018, 8:47 PM
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January 22, 2018

Lunchmeat-maker to add jobs in suburbs



Local lunchmeat-maker Carl Buddig bought a former Butterball plant in the suburbs and says it will create 250 to 300 jobs there.
The deal for the facility in west suburban Montgomery closed Jan. 19, Buddig said.

North Carolina-based Butterball shut its bacon processing operation there in July, cutting about 600 jobs.

Buddig plans to begin production this spring at the 280,000-square-foot facility. The jobs are new, not workers shifting from other locations, the company said.
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Lunchmeat-maker to add jobs in suburbs



Local lunchmeat-maker Carl Buddig bought a former Butterball plant in the suburbs and says it will create 250 to 300 jobs there.
The deal for the facility in west suburban Montgomery closed Jan. 19, Buddig said.

North Carolina-based Butterball shut its bacon processing operation there in July, cutting about 600 jobs.

Buddig plans to begin production this spring at the 280,000-square-foot facility. The jobs are new, not workers shifting from other locations, the company said.
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I have never heard of Montgomery, IL. I figured it was going to be one of those "suburbs" out near Rockford. Very surprised to learn it's just south of Aurora on the Fox River. Unless they plan to aggressively annex the farmland to the west, what's the point of this place even being an independent municipality? Why not merge with Aurora or Oswego? Another layer of effectively useless bureaucracy in Illinois, lol.

Happy about the jobs! From 600 in North Carolina to maybe half that in Illinois. Better than zero. I wonder if those in North Carolina were offered positions here.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2018, 3:42 AM
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Just read that ADM and Bunge might be in merger talks. If they merged, they'd be nearing in on the size of Cargill. And if that happened, I would hope that some of the execs of Bunge would move to Chicago (they are in White Plains, NY). It wouldn't be a lot of people, but it would still be good to see.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2018, 5:58 PM
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More techies getting hired in Chicago

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Old Posted Jan 23, 2018, 8:38 PM
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Good news on that front. Interesting note in the article was that Four Square looked at Austin, Toronto, Montreal, and a few others before settling on Chicago.
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Which is what I've been saying - Chicago is underrated in the tech talent front.
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Rating Air Connectivity for HQ2

With Amazon recently announcing the “shortlist” of cities for its second headquarters, the competition to win the tech giant is heating up. Along with that comes a wave of predictions, commentary and analysis on which locations have the best odds.

One of Amazon’s prime requirements and criteria for HQ2 is air service, so we’ve analysed all the potential cities using OAG data.

Amazon’s air service requirements include the number of destinations served, non-stop service to Seattle and, the range of international connectivity. When looking at the underlying data, the shortlist rapidly focuses back to the established powerhouses of North American aviation.

Here’s a look at the air-service strengths and weaknesses of some HQ2 favorites.

Austin – While Austin is a trendy underdog pick for Amazon’s HQ2, the city finished in the bottom-third for air-service strength. When you look at the aviation picture in Austin, many industry experts were surprised when British Airways launched new service to Heathrow. But today, that service is operated on a daily basis, which demonstrates the growing market opportunity in Austin. While we can expect increased availability of long-haul services to Europe from Austin over the next few years, today, the city is one of the worst shortlist performers (tied for 12th) for international flights. Austin’s best performance is in the number of daily, non-stop flights to Seattle, where it finished just 9th overall. Austin’s HQ2 Air-Service Rank: 13

Boston – As the closest major airport to Europe, with extended range single-aisle jets capable of reaching many new markets across the pond, Boston is ideally located to capitalize on its connectivity opportunity. And with new services to Asia in development, the airport and city expect strong growth to the global network. Today, however, Boston ranks just 9th in international flights, 11th in market pairs and 7th in non-stop flights to Seattle. Boston HQ2 Air-Service Rank: 11

Toronto – Perhaps surprisingly, Toronto places second in terms of international connectivity, although that’s based entirely on the large range of connecting markets in the United States. Not surprisingly, at the other end of the spectrum, Toronto has one of the lowest counts of domestic connectivity amongst all twenty airports. With around 620 flights a day from YYZ, the airport has a higher frequency of service than either JFK or EWR, but is considerably behind airports such as Atlanta and Chicago. Toronto ranks 13th, tied with Miami, in the number of non-stop daily flights to Seattle, and 9th in market pairs. Toronto’s HQ2 Air-Service Rank: 8

Dallas Ft Worth – Home to both American Airlines and Southwest, and with two major airport facilities, Dallas Ft Worth is tied in second with Chicago in terms of city pairs connected and serves 46 international markets, although with slightly lower levels of frequency compared to Atlanta and Chicago. While Dallas did not place first in any overall category we measured, Dallas ranks in the top four on many counts. Dallas’ HQ2 Air-Service Rank: 5

Atlanta – Atlanta ranks first for total city pairs and finishes second to Chicago in the frequency of daily service. The city, however, only ranks 6th on the number of daily international flights. With a major Skyteam hub, Atlanta also offers strong synergies with Seattle, another major hub for Delta Air Lines. And if on-time performance matters to Amazon, access to Delta – 2017’s most-punctual U.S. mega airline – provides another checkmark for Atlanta. Atlanta’s HQ2 Air-Service Rank: 4

Chicago – One of only a handful airports in the world that acts as a hub for two major airline alliances, Chicago O’Hare has made considerable progress with its on-time performance over the last few years. The combined two airport system of O’Hare and Midway collectively serves some 201 city pairs, although some are double counted by virtue of the two airport operations. With 43 international markets served from O’Hare, the city ranks eighth in this connectivity measurement. In 2017, O’Hare was the most-connected airport in the U.S. Overall, Chicago presents a terrific air service option for Amazon. The city ranks second in city pairs connected, third in non-stop flights to Seattle and fifth in number of international flights. Chicago’s HQ2 Air-Service Rank: 2

New York – When measured as one combined airport system of JFK, EWR and LGA, New York City scores highly in any ranking; when measured on an individual basis, the respective strengths of both JFK and EWR are perhaps not quite so strong. JFK ranks fifth when total city pairs served are counted and ninth based purely on domestic city pairs operated. In terms of city pairs operated, JFK finishes in third place, although it can be argued that it has a broader range of international markets than either Toronto or Miami, both which rank ahead of the airport. Adding to its attraction, New York, JFK, (like Chicago O’Hare) is one of the few airports in the world that are home to two major alliances (OneWorld & Skyteam). Overall, New York is first in number of international flights and fourth in the number of daily, non-stop flights to Seattle. New York’s HQ2 Air-Service Rank: Tied for 1st

Newark – A major Star Alliance hub, Newark finished eighth in the number of daily flights, seventh in the number of city pairs served, fifth in domestic connectivity and fourth for international connectivity. Like its counterparts in New York City, Newark benefits from the combined power of the JFK, EWR and LGA airport system. Newark’s HQ2 Air-Service Rank: Tied for 1st

When you evaluate Amazon’s key aviation criteria – direct services to Seattle, number of non-stop city pairs available and international connectivity – our analysis shows that New York and Newark, with the combined power of JFK, EWR & LGA, are the winners. Chicago finished right behind in second place, followed by Los Angeles, which many predict is too close to Seattle to be a realistic option for HQ2. Atlanta and Dallas scored respectively as well, finishing 4th and 5th overall.

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^ Good to know/see. They are pretty exact in what cities they want flights to. So really at this point, I think you have to determine how much corporate travel between cities they're going to do. If they're going to do a lot, then I think that is actually better for Chicago than NYC if they are looking to go to Seattle a bit. Time is money and if you are in a meeting and need to be there in real life, those 2 hours will actually make a difference if you have enough travel.

Obviously you are probably better suited to do this analysis, but I do believe that if Amazon wants to travel both east and west coast (Seattle, Bay Area, NYC, DC), then somewhere more in the middle of the country for that specific requirement would be better in my mind than in the NY area. Of course, it depends on how much travel to each place. If most of it would be going to Seattle, then Chicago is better than NY. If most is going to somewhere like Boston, NYC, and/or DC then somewhere on the East Coast is better. I'd imagine though there would be more Seattle and Austin based destination traveling which I'd think that somewhere like Chicago would be better than NYC for. A lot of factors though..
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Two more data centers planned near O'Hare


By Danny Ecker
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A pair of data center operators are adding to the list of companies building such facilities near O'Hare International Airport.
A venture of Reno, Nev.-based RagingWire Data Centers bought a 19-acre site next to the Hamilton Lakes Business Park in Itasca, where it plans to begin work this spring on a roughly 200,000-square-foot data center, according to Pat McKillen, an executive with Hamilton Partners, the seller. The center could be expanded in the future to as large as 550,000 square feet, McKillen said.
In the other new addition, Dallas-based Stream Data Centers said it is set to open a 130,600-square-foot data center this year at 2080 Lunt Ave. in Elk Grove Village. The facility, Stream's first foray into the Chicago market, sits on nearly 6 acres just west of O'Hare.
The deals highlight the growing demand for data center facilities triggered by companies' and consumers' expanded use of services such as streaming and cloud storage. That has led many big tech firms to need more room to store data on off-site servers.

Chicago has become one of the top data center destinations nationwide because of its central location, competitive electricity prices relative to other big markets and robust fiberconnectivity that exists thanks in part to data-hungry financial and trading firms in the area, said Sean Reynolds, regional director at real estate firm Jones Lang LaSalle who co-leads the company's Midwest data center practice.
While the city is home to one of the world's largest data centers—the 1.1 million-square-foot facility at 350 E. Cermak Road near McCormick Place—the area near O'Hare that includes Elk Grove Village, Franklin Park and Itasca has become "Main and Main" for the local data center market, Reynolds said, thanks to big additions there from industry giants like San Francisco-based Digital Realty Trust and DuPont Fabros Technology, which Digital Realty acquired last year.

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With Amazon recently announcing the “shortlist” of cities for its second headquarters, the competition to win the tech giant is heating up. Along with that comes a wave of predictions, commentary and analysis on which locations have the best odds

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Another rapid growing Chicago startup

https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/e...apsheetHQ.html

How about that? Real jobs. Not chasing a fantasy...
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Showpad's Chicago office to double in size after $25M funding



by Michael Hines

|January 24, 2018


The Belgian startup, which has its North American headquarters in Chicago, has added an additional $25 million to its Series C round. The fresh funds come from Insight Venture Partners, the lead investor on the company’s previously announced $50 million Series C. The new capital brings Showpad’s Series C to $75 million and its total funding to $89.5 million.

“The additional funding we raised is all about growing the business, making marketing investments and sales investments,” said COO Jason Holmes. “A lot of that growth is going to come from our Chicago office.”


We’re building out our marketing organization primarily in Chicago and will continue to build the core of our global marketing team here.”

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Showpad opened its Chicago office in September...

“We’re building out our marketing organization primarily in Chicago and will continue to build the core of our global marketing team here,” said Holmes. “I expect our office to be at 40 people or more by the end of quarter two.”

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“I joined Showpad for a few reasons, one of which was because I wanted to build this business in Chicago,” Holmes said. “I wanted to create a great enterprise SaaS win for the city. Five months in and I couldn’t feel any more optimistic about the decision I made and where we’re headed.”
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