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OTSkyline · #1 Posted **Aug 10, 2023, 2:16 PM**

Forgot how close this one actually is to Soho Baseline. That's 3 decent tower additions in the area. I'm all for added density around College Square.

Harley613 · #2 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 3:38 PM**

Guess who learned to do perfectly accurate (height only, base is freeform) basic 3D modeling overlays in Google Earth? Get ready for a massive dump of future skyline angles from all over the city in the coming days!

J.OT13 · #3 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 3:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Guess who learned to do perfectly accurate (height only, base is freeform) basic 3D modeling overlays in Google Earth? Get ready for a massive dump of future skyline angles from all over the city in the coming days!

I am bursting with anticipation!

These are going to be pretty cool.

You should add Algonquin Station head houses to this one.

OTSkyline · #4 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 3:55 PM**

Wow exciting! Any possibility of those large grass patches in the middle to be redeveloped at some point? Or are they nationally significant parks?

Uhuniau · #5 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 4:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Guess who learned to do perfectly accurate (height only, base is freeform) basic 3D modeling overlays in Google Earth? Get ready for a massive dump of future skyline angles from all over the city in the coming days!

This is excellent; now you can quantify how many children the perpetual shadow will kill!

zzptichka · #6 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 4:29 PM**

This development sucks though. 3 lonely boring towers between highways, parking lots and green deserts. Flashbacks from the 70s.

Give me this:

Davis137 · #7 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 6:22 PM**

This is only going to motivate developers to buy up more properties in the vicinity of Algonquin, and start building more vertical density...

OTSkyline · #8 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 6:56 PM**

It's almost impossible to build something like that (a master planned community) when it's not a huge empty piece of land owned by 1 entity. In this case I imagine it's a bunch of individual landowners.

But I hope the green field in between and many of those parking lots fronting Baseline and Woodroffe (along the College) would be redeveloped like that with street-level retail and condos/rentals/residences above.

J.OT13 · #9 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 7:07 PM**

Closest thing to a masterplan in this area, and that's 15 years ago.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...gonquin&page=2

The City is leasing the building at Centrepoint (100 Constellation) from Arnon. From what I understand, it's a 23 year lease, with an option to buy at the end of said lease.

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On 1 July 2003, the City entered into an Assignment and Amendment of Lease Agreement with Nortel Networks Limited and Arnon Corporation with respect to the office building municipally known as 100 Constellation Crescent which provides for the City to lease the building until 28 February 2026 and for the City to have an option to purchase the building at the end of the lease term for a purchase price that will be significantly less than the estimated market value.

https://app06.ottawa.ca/calendar/ott...stellation.htm

OTSkyline · #10 Posted **Aug 18, 2023, 7:58 PM**

Weird... It seems like OttawaU and Carleton have expanded quite a lot in the past 20 years and continue to grow their campuses, that doesn't seem to hold true with Algonquin. Any theories why?

In that master plan they had a phase 1, phase 2, phase 3 up till 2016 but none of it materialized other than the 1 building across the street on Woodroffe. Most of those empty lots, parking lots of park-n-rides should be developed. With Algonquin still being fairly central and having a bus network and a future LRT station, that land should be used for high density, not for park-n-rides.

vtecyo · #11 Posted **Aug 19, 2023, 1:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by OTSkyline

Weird... It seems like OttawaU and Carleton have expanded quite a lot in the past 20 years and continue to grow their campuses, that doesn't seem to hold true with Algonquin. Any theories why?

In that master plan they had a phase 1, phase 2, phase 3 up till 2016 but none of it materialized other than the 1 building across the street on Woodroffe. Most of those empty lots, parking lots of park-n-rides should be developed. With Algonquin still being fairly central and having a bus network and a future LRT station, that land should be used for high density, not for park-n-rides.

Wikipedia says Carleton has ~32,000 students, U of O is ~48,000 students, and Algonquin has 56,000 (19,000 full-time; 37,000 part-time). I don't know what those were 20 years ago - but maybe their growth has been mostly part-time students?

Those could be mostly evening, weekend or online students. If so - Algonquin could use be getting more use out of their buildings by using them more in off peak hours.

J.OT13 · #12 Posted **Aug 20, 2023, 5:29 PM**

Seems like our society really pushes people to go to University, even though we probably need more college graduates. It seems mostly people with lower high school marks go to College, so it's more about that than maybe what the student might want to do.

Since 2010, La Cité (about 5k FT students) has also seen some limited expansion, with a trades building in Orleans, an emergency services building at the main campus, and a "innovation" building, also at the main campus. So it total, it may have grown 25%? When I was a student there 10+ years ago, we were promised all sorts of expansions that never cam to fruition.