LONDON | Project Compilation Thread - Page 4

jef · #1 Posted **Sep 19, 2006, 3:28 PM**

Irvine Sellar said demolition of Southwark Towers will start towards the end of 2007. He said the expected completion date is 2011.

jef · #2 Posted **Sep 19, 2006, 3:30 PM**

20 Fenchurch Street is granted planning permission (Just).

Rambaldi · #3 Posted **Sep 19, 2006, 3:56 PM**

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20 Fenchurch Street is granted planning permission (Just).

That was quick

I presume they will start the demolition soon.

Mikey · #4 Posted **Sep 19, 2006, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by jef

20 Fenchurch Street is granted planning permission (Just).

OH NO !!!

Mikey · #5 Posted **Sep 19, 2006, 4:24 PM**

Please hope it is called in for a public enquiry

jef · #6 Posted **Sep 19, 2006, 4:47 PM**

I doubt so. English Heritage did not raise any objections and Ken Livingstone described the scheme as "unique architectural design and would be a landmark building".

I too would be pleased to see official renderings of the revised scheme. All we know is that height has been cut by 15% and the footprint by 30%.

At least we can be confident this one will start in the near future. Site is vacant and funding has been secured. And be sure LandSec is all about quality.

jef · #7 Posted **Sep 19, 2006, 7:38 PM**

12 councillors voted for; eight voted against.

london lad06 · #8 Posted **Sep 20, 2006, 1:33 AM**

I'm quite a fan of 20FC (Its the real marmite of the current city proposals

) & im glad its got PP.

Its worth noting that although it seems like its a bit out on a limb now in the future I would predict there will be more tall buildings between this & the main cluster (Infact if you look at that new bishopsgate rendering posted yesterday its not far off the rest).

Jef - Do you know where it mentions they intend to spec develop this asap as looking at there development pipeline right up to 2010 this isn't on it whereas New change, Park house (oxford st), Dashwood house etc are all on it.

This will get built & hopefully soon. Looking at there present piepline for the city they just have New St Square which is half let & should be complete by the end of next yr or early 08, One New change which should start before the years out & 1 wood st which has a pre-let already, so theres not that much surplus office space, especially for a company the size of LandSecs.The good thing about it being scaled back is that there is less office space to fill or find tennants for & the sites already empty.

Rambaldi · #9 Posted **Sep 20, 2006, 1:50 AM**

Yeah I'm a big fan of 20 FC too, before I was worried about the height but now that they have cut it down I'm happier, it will still be a big presence when viewed from the south of the river but not the massive presence the bigger version would have been.

(I'm Medo btw

)

jef · #10 Posted **Sep 20, 2006, 4:19 PM**

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(I'm Medo btw

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@london lad: I do not remember. LandSec will probably let us know in the coming days what their intentions precisely are. But a site left vacant costs money ... and LandSec has just completed the sale of buildings to fund a.o. this development.

jef · #11 Posted **Sep 20, 2006, 6:48 PM**

No spec. building of 20 FC.

LandSec 20/09/2006: "The intention is to go to the market to seek a pre-let of part of the building prior to construction starting on site."

london lad06 · #12 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 12:13 AM**

Thats probably to be expected still I would expect them to get a pre-let sometime within 2007- Its would've been to easy for it to get pp & then start straight away- were used to waiting years for skyscrapers -lol.

They seem to be takig a different view from BL who appear to be developing a lot of ther short-mid term pipeline speculatively.

BL Land Sec
51 Lime St- Has pre-let New St Sq- Half pre-let- rest
2006-Ludgate West - Spec Bankside123- 1pre-let, 2&3 Spec
2006-201 Bishopsgate- Spec 1 Wood St - Has pre-let
2006- Ropemaker st- Spec One new change- Spec
2007- 122LH - Spec?? 20FC- needs pre-let
Dashwood House- Spec (when ithas PP)

As you can see BL has greater exposure. I hope Ropemaker doesn't tip them over the edge with too much space & delays 122LH. Lets hope not.With Land Secs they have a lot of space taken up already & not much activity in the central city core so it bodes well for 20FC.

With all the big property firms, BL , Land Secs, GPE, CWG & LMS they have good business plans with short, mid & long term development plans/pieplines so we can sort of guess what will go up when. Minerva had the total opposite buisness plan & was more of a hit & hope run firm which is why they seem to have come unstuck. Had they been brave enough & actually strated building the Minerva tower a year or 2 ago they could hev been first in now that the market has picked up- Silly Minerva.

jef · #13 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 4:45 PM**

GPE has today submitted the planning application for the 15-storey tower opposite Christ Chruch. The news follows the purchase of two other properties on the site they didn't own already.

GPE Press Release
http://www.gpe.co.uk/news/?id=4257

GPE Blackfriars image:

Fabb · #14 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 6:05 PM**

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That's a small Cira Center.
Cute.

Mikey · #15 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 4:49 PM**

Quite nice, another 5 floors wouldnt have gone a miss though

wjfox2004 · #16 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 4:50 PM**

I love it! Very striking.

Cat Man Do · #17 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 6:24 PM**

And it seems during the outage that a major bit of news reported on Gothic's SSN site is that the shard has acquired full funding.

jef · #18 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 6:35 PM**

It was reported hereabove. See post 49 by Will.

And the link to the official press release by the developer.

http://www.clsholdings.com/cls/uploads/PR19.09.06.pdf

Fabb · #19 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 6:48 PM**

Good news, but :

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PwC will vacate the building before the end of 2007

Another full year without action. I hate that.

jef · #20 Posted **Sep 21, 2006, 7:03 PM**

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Good news, but :
Another full year without action. I hate that.

Actually not. The consortium will start working on site with PwC still occupying Southwark Towers. They have concluded some kind of arrangements with PwC. It means that there will be no further delays that
the 2011 deadline announced earlier this year.