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Old Posted May 3, 2019, 10:42 PM
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Hopefully it's just a possible rendition for now because the upper portion still needs work in my opinion, but otherwise it looks darn great.. takes us more into the 21st century with those series of curves and the amazing lower part. So this would not start happening I gather for another four years, til the lease runs out? Might be a good thing as 270 Park, Tower Fifth and likely the Hyatt replacement tower will be going up around the same time as each other and there's a bit of catch up time with this delay in demolition of the current smaller tower.
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Old Posted May 3, 2019, 10:48 PM
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I cant wait for this phase of construction to be over, CPT, 157, one vanderbilt, etc. And the next phase to begin, Park Hyatt, 270, dekalb etc.

When those buildings are nearing completion, this one will start construction. who knows what else will be planned then? Maybe that Park Central megatall?

i cant wait for the next decade
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Hopefully it's just a possible rendition for now because the upper portion still needs work in my opinion, but otherwise it looks darn great.. takes us more into the 21st century with those series of curves and the amazing lower part. So this would not start happening I gather for another four years, til the lease runs out?

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I cant wait for this phase of construction to be over, CPT, 157, one vanderbilt, etc. And the next phase to begin, Park Hyatt, 270, dekalb etc.

When those buildings are nearing completion, this one will start construction. who knows what else will be planned then? Maybe that Park Central megatall?

Yeah, it looks like we're gonna be busy with skyscrapers for a while to come, even if things slow down a little. I'm sure that design will be refined like everything else.

Meanwhile, BlackRock can't get out of the way until the Spiral is completed. That's just now beginning to peak above street level. Maybe some of the tenants in Vornado's building will begin moving out first, they seem ready to take advantage of the new zoning.


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Vornado’s sits on the entire blockfront between East 51st and 52nd streets, while Rudin’s mid-block building at 40 E. 52nd St. sits right behind it
with entrances on both side streets.

This is a 23-story tower with 385,000 square feet and its main tenant, BlackRock, is moving to Hudson Yards and will leave it empty in roughly four years.

Sources said the firms have already discussed leasing such a new tower to a major company

It'll be interesting to watch this take shape along with others in the pipeline.






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Old Posted May 4, 2019, 1:04 AM
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Wow, this cluster is going to be amazing.


A little more of the interior workings...


Ground floor





2nd floor




3rd floor





Minus the other new towers in the skyline...














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Does anyone know when the leases expire in 350 Park? I know that Rudin’s building will be basically empty when BlackRock moves.
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Does anyone know when the leases expire in 350 Park? I know that Rudin’s building will be basically empty when BlackRock moves.

Not sure, but Blackrock is moving when the spiral is complete so 2021/2022 i would say
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I hope Vornado doesn't screw this up. But since Roth practically wants to take credit for the Midtown East rezoning, and feels this site is best suited to take advantage of it, I think they will try hard to get this done.



https://therealdeal.com/2019/05/03/v...-midtown-east/

Vornado, Rudin mull 1,450-foot tower in Midtown East
Brochure envisions 1.68M-sf office project for Park Avenue



By Kathryn Brenzel
May 03, 2019


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Vornado Realty Trust and Rudin Management might build a 1,450-foot tower at 350 Park Avenue, marking the latest project to take advantage of Midtown East’s rezoning.

A brochure for the potential project, which is presented as a possibility for the site and has not yet been filed with the city’s Department of Buildings, shows a tower that would rise more than 100 feet above SL Green Realty and Hines’ One Vanderbilt and would have 1.68 million square feet of rentable space.

The New York Post reported last month that the two companies were discussing a possible joint venture to build a new office tower on Park Avenue. Such a plan would require the demolition of Vornado’s existing building at 51st and 52nd streets, and Rudin’s at 40 East 52nd Street.
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A source familiar with the potential joint venture said this was just one option for the sites. Rudin and Vornado could decide, instead, to redevelop their properties independently.

Renderings for the potential project are reminiscent of the stepped look of One Vanderbilt, though the different levels of 350 Park’s facade (achieved through setbacks) form outdoor space. The brochure envision multiple floors of amenities, including a “sky bar” at the top of the tower, a sports club, some sort of fine dining, an auditorium and an arts club. Vornado and Rudin declined to comment.
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In August 2017, the city rezoned Midtown East, a move intended to encourage the creation of 6.5 million square feet of new office space over the next two decades by allowing developers to build larger projects. The zoning change has already inspired JPMorgan Chase to demolish 270 Park Avenue and build a new 1,400-foot tower in its place. Harry Macklowe has announced plans for a 1,500-foot tall office building at 14 East 52nd Street.

Not everyone is committed to tearing down older building stock to make way for flashy new towers. Tishman Speyer just ditched its plan to redevelop 300 Park Avenue after consumer goods conglomerate Colgate-Palmolive renewed about 242,000 square feet at the building for its global headquarters.
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Old Posted May 4, 2019, 6:54 PM
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I wish this one exceeding 1600ft
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KPMG? Shouldn't the tower look like a giant golf bag instead?
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Checked the CTBUH, and this is listed.

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Official Name 350 Park Avenue
Structure Type Building
Status Proposed
Country United States
City New York City
Street Address & Map 350 Park Avenue
Postal Code 10022
Building Function office
Proposed 2019
Height: Architectural 442 m / 1,450 ft Minimum
Height: To Tip 442 m / 1,450 ft Estimated
Floors Above Ground 70
Tower GFA 156,077 m² / 1,679,999 ft²



Owner Rudin Management Company, Inc.
Developer Vornado Realty Trust

Currently 4 proposals above 1400 ft. Tower 5th, 350 Park, 80 South, 270 Park (JP Morgan).

Loving the trend. Now, we must work our way to 600m.
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Old Posted May 6, 2019, 3:33 AM
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New York can't be a museum! The market decides! Insert other SSP cliches!
No need to insert "cliches" when you can insert the truth. It's why I'm glad we had the smart people in charge to make the changes necessary to make such a tower possible, or we would be looking at a museum evntually. It's 2019. Things change. Styles change. Tastes change. And more importantly, what is considered optimal working spaces today aren't the same as it was in 1960. But yeah, let's let older buildings stand just so people can look at them and pretend it is.


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I really like this tower. It has a sort of Bank of China thing going on without really looking anything like it.
Hadn't though of that, but it does. I would like some more refinement at the top. I like it a lot more at the street level.
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No need to insert "cliches" when you can insert the truth.
Yeah idgf about a bland wedding cake, I just thought it would be fun to see your false dichotomy about museums used on crappy post-war architecture for once



This baby is going to look great during the blue hour with those diagonal lines

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Yeah idgf about a bland wedding cake, I just thought it would be fun to see your false dichotomy about museums used on crappy post-war architecture for once

Yeah, just as I wanted to see you wander out of the wilderness with your not-so-witty commentary again.




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But that doesn't mean the building won't happen (with the current design) it just means we have to wait a bit. I really hope so because this thing is awesome
I never said it wouldn't happen with the current design. I'm saying they still have options, including designing another tower if so desired. (just look at 2 WTC or 15 Penn).
They also have the option to develop each property separately, but that wouldn't be the best course of action for either of them.



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As much as this looks like the new xfinity remote control you'd think Comcast was the anchor tenant.
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I really like this tower. It has a sort of Bank of China thing going on without really looking anything like it.

https://newyorkyimby.com/2019/05/vor...nYbul6GMpeNBwA
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It's interesting comparing this proposed tower to Ingel's 2 World Trade Center stack of boxes. It shows how much more effort the architect seem to go into designing a distinct tower. I think the top may need a little minor work - I think the spires look a little weird for the location. It will be interesting to see if and how this moves forward.

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About time we get a two spire tower in Manhattan and not Chicago, single spires are overrated lest see if we get three next.
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