If you were a developer (Just for Fun) - Page 4

the905sDW · #1 Posted **Mar 24, 2013, 4:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by pEte fiSt iN Ur fAce

^I think that's a good scale for King and Wellington. A skyscraper would get lost in that spot and I think it's important that anything built there relates well both to the street and to the neighbouring buildings.

One thing I noticed about the proposal for King and Bay is that it's very inward-facing; it would be nice if it interacted more with the street. That's not a criticism of you, Thomas, it's just an observation based on the original plans.

Some great ideas. I wish I could throw something together but my sketching skills are limited to Paint.

Today I spent some time deciding what style of building to build at King and Bay. I still think we need interest and uniqueness in the sky. It's another good lot for some height I think. I'm very inspired by NYC's new WTC 3 Building. I'm taking some of it's exoskeleton features and style and adding it to this one.
Thinking a hotel would be a good choice for that lot as well. This one is going to be mostly glass - something that Hamilton really doesn't have aside from CIBC.

I'll post some quick renders tomorrow.

thmx · #2 Posted **Mar 24, 2013, 5:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by the905sDW

Today I spent some time deciding what style of building to build at King and Bay. I still think we need interest and uniqueness in the sky. It's another good lot for some height I think. I'm very inspired by NYC's new WTC 3 Building. I'm taking some of it's exoskeleton features and style and adding it to this one.
Thinking a hotel would be a good choice for that lot as well. This one is going to be mostly glass - something that Hamilton really doesn't have aside from CIBC.

I'll post some quick renders tomorrow.

I was doing the same with my building for in between the Pigott Building and Commerce Place,

thmx · #3 Posted **Mar 24, 2013, 5:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by pEte fiSt iN Ur fAce

^I think that's a good scale for King and Wellington. A skyscraper would get lost in that spot and I think it's important that anything built there relates well both to the street and to the neighbouring buildings.

One thing I noticed about the proposal for King and Bay is that it's very inward-facing; it would be nice if it interacted more with the street. That's not a criticism of you, Thomas, it's just an observation based on the original plans.

Some great ideas. I wish I could throw something together but my sketching skills are limited to Paint.

I noticed that too, it almost seems like a mini Jackson Square. I am hoping that the when the official plans are released the ground floor commercial faces the street and not inwards like Jackson Square. I am working on making my rendering better and I am going to add street facing commercial to the ground floor.

bornagainbiking · #4 Posted **Mar 24, 2013, 12:33 PM**

If I had the resources, I would concentrate on the West Harbour. I would use Halifax/Dartmouth example.
Their Mohawk (NSCC) is on the waterfront directly across from downtown. They have a vibrant boardwalk. With shops and bike rentals.
I would put City Hall down there.

the905sDW · #5 Posted **Mar 24, 2013, 3:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by bornagainbiking

If I had the resources, I would concentrate on the West Harbour. I would use Halifax/Dartmouth example.
Their Mohawk (NSCC) is on the waterfront directly across from downtown. They have a vibrant boardwalk. With shops and bike rentals.
I would put City Hall down there.

That's an area that really needs some thought and attention for sure. Its deserving of. Makeover and some development. Its one if the areas us like to come up with some ketches. I'mgoing to make an aerial map of the city that has empty lots and areas up for our design competition. I'll post it later today.

the905sDW · #6 Posted **Mar 24, 2013, 4:03 PM**

Herr are 3 sites I want yo tackle first. High density lots.

thmx · #7 Posted **Mar 24, 2013, 6:59 PM**

I've been working on my design for the King and Bay Condos. I still have to add a lot more and the materials used might change, but here is what I have so far:

Source: My Photo

the905sDW · #8 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 1:35 AM**

Thomas, I like the condo renderings! I went with a hotel / residence theme. I chose a Westin branded hotel. Building is inspired by WTC 3 in NYC and the new Telus Building downtown Toronto. here is a rough rendering in place on Google Street View.

thmx · #9 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 1:39 AM**

WOW! love it.

the905sDW · #10 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 2:15 AM**

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WOW! love it.

Thanks!

the building looks better on its own. Its destroyed quite abit to fit the angle of the street view. I'll post individual renders tomorrow. I almost need to go out and take my own photos to Photoshop out cars poles and trees.

thmx · #11 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 3:41 AM**

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thmx · #12 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 6:38 PM**

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I've been working on my design for the King and Bay Condos. I still have to add a lot more and the materials used might change, but here is what I have so far:

Source: My Photo

Just for fun, I went completely against the official plans for King & Bay and I made a quick edit of what I already have designed for the site. I added some height:

2 x 12 floors becomes 17 & 29 floors...

Source: My Photo

SteelTown · #13 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 1:40 PM**

Nice. If McMaster didn't buy the School Board land Darko was going to buy the land and erect two Hotels, one was going to be a Westin. So you aren't that far off lol.

Westin is part of Starwood Hotels, which also includes Sheraton.

I do like the tower, looks great. One thing missing is an observation deck, Landmark was suppose to have one. Imagine the view, see Toronto, the mist from Niagara Falls, the Escarpment, etc.

the905sDW · #14 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 4:16 PM**

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Nice. If McMaster didn't buy the School Board land Darko was going to buy the land and erect two Hotels, one was going to be a Westin. So you aren't that far off lol.

Westin is part of Starwood Hotels, which also includes Sheraton.

I do like the tower, looks great. One thing missing is an observation deck, Landmark was suppose to have one. Imagine the view, see Toronto, the mist from Niagara Falls, the Escarpment, etc.

So Mac owns that parking lot? If so what would they do with it? More parking? Seems like a waste. A hotel is really needed there. The rendering I made is slightly off in scale. The entrance level is too short looking. I'll spend more time in cinema and Photoshop to make it more to scale today. And add an observation desk.

thmx · #15 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 4:31 PM**

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So Mac owns that parking lot? If so what would they do with it? More parking? Seems like a waste. A hotel is really needed there. The rendering I made is slightly off in scale. The entrance level is too short looking. I'll spend more time in cinema and Photoshop to make it more to scale today. And add an observation desk.

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Yes, Mac owns the land now. They proposed twin condo towers as phase 2...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=204151

^ That is why I made my condo design this size. It is the exact size and shape of what is going to be built, just with materials I chose because official renderings haven't been released:

Source: My Photo

The plan I followed:

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Originally Posted by MeIsThomas

- Located on the south-east corner of King Street West and Bay Street
- Two 12 storey residential towers (each w/12,000sf footprint)
- 1 storey 40,000sf retail podium
- This will be the second phase of the McMaster Health Campus development

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SteelTown · #16 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 4:24 PM**

Yes, Mac owns the land now. They proposed twin condo towers as phase 2...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=204151

SteelTown · #17 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 4:42 PM**

One spot where a hotel was proposed was Main and Caroline, across from the old Federal Building. Former HMP used car lot, behind BMO. It was slated to be an Intercontinental Hotel. But the partnership fell apart.

thmx · #18 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 4:51 PM**

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One spot where a hotel was proposed was Main and Caroline, across from the old Federal Building. Former HMP used car lot, behind BMO. It was slated to be an Intercontinental Hotel. But the partnership fell apart.

The owner of that lot is planning to build something, possibly condos, if Darko's project across the street goes well.

the905sDW · #19 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 5:45 PM**

Perhaps I'll have to retching my hotel location! Thomas' condos are more realistic with the proposed site plan.

SteelTown · #20 Posted **Mar 25, 2013, 6:52 PM**

The taller tower is the latest architectural trend, have certain floors off side from the main building.