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[ScottG]

was the stratosphere SO great that is should be replicated? Not really

Birmingham thinks otherwise!

City's skyscraper theme park plan



The tower is similar to the Stratosphere casino in Las Vegas
A £60m skyscraper with theme park rides and a restaurant at the top could be built in Birmingham.
The 175m (574ft) Birmingham Pinnacle will be built next to Millennium Point, if the city council approves the plans.

Rides include a high level seesaw, a freefall parachute drop, a bungee drop and a 50-passenger gyro ride.

The building would be the Midlands' tallest, the first of its kind in Europe and would resemble the Stratosphere tower in Las Vegas.

Richard Pawley, chairman of ROC International Towers which is behind the proposal, said he had been working with Birmingham City Council for the past 12 months.

In 2003, the council said it encouraged well placed, high quality tall buildings that would enhance the city's image.

Mr Pawley said: "The leisure market is set to grow steadily over the next few years and the challenge for us has been to find innovative ways to capture people's imagination. I am sure this theme park will do that."

'Vertical entertainment centre'

Councillor Ken Hardeman, cabinet member for regeneration, said he thought the Pinnacle would be a "magnet" for visitors.

It is hoped that it would attract one million visitors in the first 12 months.

Birmingham City Council confirmed it had been in discussion with the developers and is "broadly supportive of their proposals". It anticipates a planning application "in due course".

If plans are approved, developers said they hope that the "vertical entertainment centre" would be open within two years.

The building would be illuminated by lasers at night and visitors can view the city from an observation point from the top two storeys.

Due for completion later this year, Beetham Tower will become Birmingham's tallest building at 122m (400ft).

The 39-floor tower will include 160 apartments, a hotel and health club.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ds/4840984.stm

[GeorgeLV]

Looking over the agendas, I found that six 22 story (268 ft) condo towers have been proposed for Hughes Center on Paradise & Sands. http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapp...a/P0170245.htm

[Patrick]

Wierd huh? Well I already added them to the database

[sky-of-webs]

With their great web site, and huge amount of financial investment in the project so far, not to mention the best looking condo tower, amenities wise, I have total belief Club Renasiance will be built. But having it listed as under cunstruction is still to premature, most of the old houses are still on-site. There is no trailer, no fencing and no ground work to speak of.
And for Streamline, behind the plywood fence only a level dirt lot exists.
I'm not negative on these properties, I just want to keep the thread up to date and factual.
By the way, the red and white tower cranes at Sky are cool looking.
And I was wondering who had such a large creeper crane up behind the Union Plaza. The Molasky center.

[ScottG]

^^^^^ i thought club ren construction would not jump track as fast as it sounded..... ....whats to come......?


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ANYWHO....

ever wonder what the stratosphere would look like with some damage?





YES THESE ARE FAKE!

so remember a while back, i mention this movie: DOMINO? well here are some screencaps of the ending.......(its not ruining the movie for ya- its shown in the trailer that the stratosphere gets blown)

[Daquan13]

Originally Posted by ScottG

^^^^^ i thought club ren construction would not jump track as fast as it sounded..... ....whats to come......?


_____________________________________________________________________
ANYWHO....

ever wonder what the stratosphere would look like with some damage?





YES THESE ARE FAKE!

so remember a while back, i mention this movie: DOMINO? well here are some screencaps of the ending.......(its not ruining the movie for ya- its shown in the trailer that the stratosphere gets blown)

WOW!!!

Those pics really look scary even though they're fake!!
Horribly reminiscent of 09-11!

I've been away from this thread for so long that I forgot about it.

Quickly did some more buildings, yes most of them are box skeletons but I couldn't stand looking at an outdated skyline in google earth, and making buildings was somehow fun. But the height is correct since I used the diagrams page info from ssp!

And now I've put up a google earth file of the buildings for any other google earth user else who wants them added in the city.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...BB8DE832BCC7E5

Just download the file, open google earth, then open my kmz file and it will put the buildings into the map automatically.

If I update it again in the future I'll put up an updated version. (Or you could download google sketchup and try making some buildings yourself, it's not that hard and post them here). We could add all the best buildings and make an ultimate future vegas skyline file package.

Simulated view from the Stratosphere from some future buildings.


google sketchup download - program comes with a good tuorial that only takes a half hour or so to do.
http://sketchup.google.com/

placing your buildings into google earth
http://sketchup.google.com/support/b...241&topic=8539

[Patrick]

Wow cool screencaps, I love movies with destruction Finally Vegas get something destroyed in a new movie.

[Ho-Dog]

Wow, nice special effects, that is awesome.

[ScottG]

the vegas888 sales office is almost complete, they are putting pavment down.

palms place now has an erected crane up (they shall go vertical soon!)

[vegasrain84]

Hey guys.. It looks like the forum has slowed down.. The development hasn't, except it seems that there aren't as many new proposals coming out like there were a few months ago. Where is everyone?
Great news on Palms place and I noticed that Molasky(sp?)Center is up to the second floor it looks like. It seems to be going up pretty fast. Allure is sprouting up at a pretty good pace as well. I wonder what they are going to do with the plot of land on the other side of allure next to HGVC. Anyone know?

[vegasrain84]

Oh and about the movie DOMINO.. Horrible movie. I saw it in a free sneak preview, I was just glad that the movie was free. I think the only interesting aspect of the movie was the scene with the Stratosphere because of the special effects.. sorry for the rant..

[Bender13]

Yea there hasn't been alot of news lately, but I did find some bad news. The Curve is delayed and is offering refunds on its sales.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...s/6546528.html

Mar. 28, 2006
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Curve taken out of the loop

Sales suspended for condominium development, but exec says project isn't dead

By HUBBLE SMITH
REVIEW-JOURNAL
Letters have been sent to nearly 100 buyers at the Curve high-rise residential project planned in the southwest Las Vegas Valley offering to refund their deposits or extend their contracts by 150 days, an executive with the development said.

Paula James, vice president of the Curve, said sales have been suspended, but the project has not been canceled.

Developers had a 180-day contingency period to reach 75 percent presales required for financing and failed to meet that goal, she said.

Most lenders want to see at least 60 percent in presales before signing off on financing.

"It (presale percentages) kept going up as the media got more negative," James said. "The number kept going up as other properties continued to not be built. It just made lenders nervous."

The first tower at the Curve was 53 percent sold with 97 entities putting 10 percent of the purchase price down on units that sold from $385,000 to more than $1 million.

James said she's received calls from buyers who were saddened by the news and want to come back into the project with the 150-day extension. Their money is still refundable.

"We're looking forward to building the project. We're not interested in selling the land and we're not in a position that we have to sell," she said. "That would be the easy way out. It's tempting to look at the offers coming in for a straight sale. We just need to regroup. We ran out of time."

Sheila and Bob Joseph, business owners from California, bought into the project soon after it was announced last year and canceled their contract in January when they didn't see construction beginning as scheduled at the 45-acre site.

"We were just reading a lot about real estate in that area and taking a look while we were there at what wasn't moving," Sheila Joseph said. "Not only reading, but the gut feeling we got about the project."

Bob Joseph said he liked the looks and location of the Curve, but he didn't like the contract. The deal, he said, allowed the developer to change the floor plan specifications and required the buyer to pay the escrow fee and seller's tax.

"That's when I started to say it's not the right deal," he said. "We were looking at it as a rental. If there's going to be a glut of condos built in Las Vegas, it's not going to be a seller's market."

Bruce Hiatt of Luxury Realty Group said his clients had little interest in the Curve because of its location at Durango Drive and The Las Vegas Beltway.

"It was quite expensive. What could you sell it for later? My clients decided they'd have better appreciation on the Strip. They weren't sold on the suburbia condos, unless they specifically lived in that area. Then it tends to be work-related. But if they're an investor, they want to be in the heart of things," Hiatt said.

It's much tougher to convince developers about projects in the suburban market, Tim Sullivan of the Sullivan Group said at a housing seminar last year.

"My thought is if we had the Curve developed, it would be highly successful," he said. "But they've got to prove it. Right now, there's a lot more hype than reality."

Partners in the Curve include two general contractors -- Mike Dean of M.J. Dean Construction and Bill Richardson Sr., a former Mandalay Resort executive who runs W.A. Richardson. Other partners are Dan Juba of Klai-Juba Architects and local developers Randy Black Jr. and Mike Chernine of Land Baron Investments.

Construction of the $300 million first phase of the Curve, which would include two 18-story luxury condo towers and 12 commercial buildings, was supposed to start late last year.

The project is designed to cater to the growing southwest submarket, which is projected to double in population to 220,000 by 2010. More than 30 percent of the people are 25- to 35-years-old age and their median income is nearly $67,000.

Ron Snyder of Rise Realty, who is marketing the $850 million Pinnacle project on Tropicana Avenue, said although suspension of the Curve's development is unfortunate for stakeholders, at the end of the day, the market rules.

"Enlightened developers invest in understanding the market, not just who the buyers are, but what motivates them, and are designing product to meet their needs," he said. "Being a high-rise condominium developer in Las Vegas today requires that you research and analyze, target and stay focused, and be a realist, meaning that you approach a development with an optimist's heart and a pessimist's antennae."

Luxury Realty's Hiatt said he thought the Curve was a "cute" project overall, but its location was a challenge. Had it been closer to the Strip or even downtown, it might have done well, he said.

With projects such as the Curve and the Hard Rock Hotel expansion being suspended and others such as Icon, Krystal Sands and Aqua Blue being canceled, Las Vegas is coming into a "perfect storm" with dwindling supply and continued demand, Hiatt said. That has raised entry-level pricing for most of these luxury high-rises to $600,000 and $700,000 a unit, he said.

[AhChu]

The Curve huh? I was told by them that they were moving onsite... There are so many lies going around in this industry. I guess it makes sense that they stopped sales of tower 2 2 months ago. EIther way, they are fairly close to that 60% threshold. Perhaps, they may be able to find a couple of investors and sell off those units at a discounted rate... Just a thought.

[WonderlandPark]

Hard Rock was cancelled? Those twin 750ft towers?

[vegasrain84]

Originally Posted by WonderlandPark

Hard Rock was cancelled? Those twin 750ft towers?

yes Hard Rock was cancelled, but they were not 750 foot twin towers. I believe you are thinking of Wall Street Towers, those are the only 750 foot twin towers I am aware of, and they are not cancelled.

[vegasrain84]

I finished the W Hotel. What do you guys think?

[dcmcgov]

This is awesome!
I love the Flatiron Vegas, as well as the Renzi and the Stanhi.
Vegas is great I cant wait to stay in the new W hotel.

[vegasrain84]

Originally Posted by dcmcgov

This is awesome!
I love the Flatiron Vegas, as well as the Renzi and the Stanhi.
Vegas is great I cant wait to stay in the new W hotel.

W is one of the more interesting designs in Vegas just because of the alternating black white clad glass, and multiple layers.

I also love Flatiron, and I hope she gets built, it would be a great segway into downtown. Renzi will be spectacular and so will Stanhi, although I hear rumors she may be reduced in size to 50 floors, which is still impressive. Of those three projects, the one with the best chances of being built is Stanhi because Cherry already has 2 building under construction, and gaining name recognition. Look for more Sam Cherry buildings in the future! Can't wait!

[highriseLV]

[QUOTE=vegasrain84

Of those three projects, the one with the best chances of being built is Stanhi because Cherry already has 2 building under construction, and gaining name recognition. Look for more Sam Cherry buildings in the future! Can't wait![/QUOTE]


Why is it that Sam Cherry is able to get these projects off of the ground when so many other projects (many by big companies or big names behind them) are having so much trouble? I was in downtown the other day and it looks like Soho is almost done and Newport looks like the elevator shaft is already about 12-15 floors up! I couldn't believe how much downtown is changing - although there is still a ways to go. I guess that is also the exciting part about any redevelopment; seeing it actually start to change! Any idea when new Stanhi renderings will be released? I also can't wait for this one - because you have to figure Cherry will find a way to get it built!

Too bad to see the Curve fall apart - but never really understood why they'd want to put a high rise out in the burbs?

What's the status of Las Ramblas?